Australian / Thai Passport

[wozza]

My son born and living in Thailand (2 months old) has an Australian passport and will migrate here with my wife next year

He hasnt a Thai passport yet

My question is should we get the Thai passport in Thailand before they leave or should we just get it in Australia at the Thai consulate in out own time.

Thanks in advance

Edited November 24, 2006 by wozza

[Mighty Mouse]

If your son is to live (permanently?) in Oz, why would he need a second passport?

I'm not so sure that the Thai consulate in Oz issues Thai passports. I think they only re-new them, but I'll rely on the knowledge of others in that regard.

Edited November 24, 2006 by Mighty Mouse

[wozza]

Thanks MM

In regard to having 2 passports i was thinking to the future if he were to travel to Thailand and he had the 2 passports there would be no need to obtain any visas for either country

And if anyone could advise if we did apply for a thai passport is Bangkok the only place to go or is there an office in Korat that handles passports

[dr_Pat_Pong]

My son born and living in Thailand (2 months old) has an Australian passport and will migrate here with my wife next year

He hasnt a Thai passport yet

My question is should we get the Thai passport in Thailand before they leave or should we just get it in Australia at the Thai consulate in out own time.

Thanks in advance

The Thai passports are now electronic. Do the application in Thailand, or else face a trip to Sydney or Canberra to apply. All passports are made in Thailand now.

[dr_Pat_Pong]

Thanks MM

In regard to having 2 passports i was thinking to the future if he were to travel to Thailand and he had the 2 passports there would be no need to obtain any visas for either country

And if anyone could advise if we did apply for a thai passport is Bangkok the only place to go or is there an office in Korat that handles passports

There is no Thai passport office in Korat.

[vinny]

You and his mother may go with him to one of the passport offices with the required documents. They have to take his toe print and photograph on site.

[samran]

definetly get the Thai passport here. It can be done in as little as 3 days. Means he can be stamped out on it (my advice - Thai nationals should alwasy exit and re-enter on the Thai PP). Also saves you a trip to Canberra at some stage in the future.

Of course, use the Aussie one to enter australia.

[wozza]

Thanks for the advice and the links

helpful as always Gentlemen

[Pink Mist]

definetly get the Thai passport here. It can be done in as little as 3 days. Means he can be stamped out on it (my advice - Thai nationals should alwasy exit and re-enter on the Thai PP). Also saves you a trip to Canberra at some stage in the future.

Of course, use the Aussie one to enter australia.

Quite right Samran, one point to be made is that you now have to go to canberra to get a renewal, my wifes has just expired so is a pain.

[dr_Pat_Pong]

definetly get the Thai passport here. It can be done in as little as 3 days. Means he can be stamped out on it (my advice - Thai nationals should alwasy exit and re-enter on the Thai PP). Also saves you a trip to Canberra at some stage in the future.

Of course, use the Aussie one to enter australia.

Quite right Samran, one point to be made is that you now have to go to canberra to get a renewal, my wifes has just expired so is a pain.

The Embassy is travelling around Oz with mobile camera's.

[Pink Mist]

definetly get the Thai passport here. It can be done in as little as 3 days. Means he can be stamped out on it (my advice - Thai nationals should alwasy exit and re-enter on the Thai PP). Also saves you a trip to Canberra at some stage in the future.

Of course, use the Aussie one to enter australia.

Quite right Samran, one point to be made is that you now have to go to canberra to get a renewal, my wifes has just expired so is a pain.

The Embassy is travelling around Oz with mobile camera's.

No tht's finished now Pat, we called in to see Jay and she said it's all over now, canberra is the only option now.

She is elligable for citizenship in January so get an Oz passport for now and the other when we return to LOS

[dr_Pat_Pong]

definetly get the Thai passport here. It can be done in as little as 3 days. Means he can be stamped out on it (my advice - Thai nationals should alwasy exit and re-enter on the Thai PP). Also saves you a trip to Canberra at some stage in the future.

Of course, use the Aussie one to enter australia.

Quite right Samran, one point to be made is that you now have to go to canberra to get a renewal, my wifes has just expired so is a pain.

The Embassy is travelling around Oz with mobile camera's.

No tht's finished now Pat, we called in to see Jay and she said it's all over now, canberra is the only option now.

She is elligable for citizenship in January so get an Oz passport for now and the other when we return to LOS

They have been to Brisbane, Melbourne and Perth ( twice each ). Adelaide didn't have enough to justify the visit. Darwin is next in early December.

[Pink Mist]

definetly get the Thai passport here. It can be done in as little as 3 days. Means he can be stamped out on it (my advice - Thai nationals should alwasy exit and re-enter on the Thai PP). Also saves you a trip to Canberra at some stage in the future.

Of course, use the Aussie one to enter australia.

Quite right Samran, one point to be made is that you now have to go to canberra to get a renewal, my wifes has just expired so is a pain.

The Embassy is travelling around Oz with mobile camera's.

No tht's finished now Pat, we called in to see Jay and she said it's all over now, canberra is the only option now.

She is elligable for citizenship in January so get an Oz passport for now and the other when we return to LOS

They have been to Brisbane, Melbourne and Perth ( twice each ). Adelaide didn't have enough to justify the visit. Darwin is next in early December.

so Jay is mistaken?

[COBBER]

Thanks MM

In regard to having 2 passports i was thinking to the future if he were to travel to Thailand and he had the 2 passports there would be no need to obtain any visas for either country

And if anyone could advise if we did apply for a thai passport is Bangkok the only place to go or is there an office in Korat that handles passports

There is an office in Khon Kaen and also they have a mobile service that visits the main Provincial Cities from time to time. If you call The Ministry of Foreign Affairs they should be able to tell you when the mobile service is next in Korat.

[dr_Pat_Pong]

definetly get the Thai passport here. It can be done in as little as 3 days. Means he can be stamped out on it (my advice - Thai nationals should alwasy exit and re-enter on the Thai PP). Also saves you a trip to Canberra at some stage in the future.

Of course, use the Aussie one to enter australia.

Quite right Samran, one point to be made is that you now have to go to canberra to get a renewal, my wifes has just expired so is a pain.

The Embassy is travelling around Oz with mobile camera's.

No tht's finished now Pat, we called in to see Jay and she said it's all over now, canberra is the only option now.

She is elligable for citizenship in January so get an Oz passport for now and the other when we return to LOS

They have been to Brisbane, Melbourne and Perth ( twice each ). Adelaide didn't have enough to justify the visit. Darwin is next in early December.

so Jay is mistaken?

Maybe pissed coz Adelaide has not yet had the team

[Pink Mist]

she gave me her holier than now you dont know jackshit about thailand spule, hope you are right doc will see her soon then

[oxymoron]

My son born and living in Thailand (2 months old) has an Australian passport and will migrate here with my wife next year

He hasnt a Thai passport yet

My question is should we get the Thai passport in Thailand before they leave or should we just get it in Australia at the Thai consulate in out own time.

Thanks in advance

I think a better question to ask the more experienced panel members (Sunbelt Legal) is; "can he get a Thai Passport? -since he has an Oz one already. I understand that children of mixed marriages in Thailand do not get the same automatic rights they do in Oz.

Also when your boy gets to about 18 years old the last thing he or you would want is for him to be on a Thai Passport. Conscription to the Military is still on here, thats why my stepsons always come and go on their Aust Passports

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[samran]

My son born and living in Thailand (2 months old) has an Australian passport and will migrate here with my wife next year

He hasnt a Thai passport yet

My question is should we get the Thai passport in Thailand before they leave or should we just get it in Australia at the Thai consulate in out own time.

Thanks in advance

I think a better question to ask the more experienced panel members (Sunbelt Legal) is; "can he get a Thai Passport? -since he has an Oz one already. I understand that children of mixed marriages in Thailand do not get the same automatic rights they do in Oz.

Also when your boy gets to about 18 years old the last thing he or you would want is for him to be on a Thai Passport. Conscription to the Military is still on here, thats why my stepsons always come and go on their Aust Passports

Dual nationality has not been a problem in the eyes of the Thai government since 1993 when the law was changed. It has been fully legal in Australia in all cases since 2002.

Military conscription is not related to the use of Thai passports. I know from experience, so coming and going from Thailand on Thai passports will not be a problem. It is related to being registered on the house register though. If you reside in Thailand, and on the house register then you are liable for being called up.

If however, you are outside of Thailand (and thus not on any tabieen baan) then there is no recourse to be called up. Loophole I know, but if you live overseas, you have no proper tabien baan in Thailand. Stay off the radar until you are 30 and you are effectively exempted from all military obligations.

[dr_Pat_Pong]

she gave me her holier than now you dont know jackshit about thailand spule, hope you are right doc will see her soon then

She tends to do that quite a lot.

[Jamnjam]

Dual nationality has not been a problem in the eyes of the Thai government since 1993 when the law was changed. It has been fully legal in Australia in all cases since 2002.

Military conscription is not related to the use of Thai passports. I know from experience, so coming and going from Thailand on Thai passports will not be a problem. It is related to being registered on the house register though. If you reside in Thailand, and on the house register then you are liable for being called up.

If however, you are outside of Thailand (and thus not on any tabieen baan) then there is no recourse to be called up. Loophole I know, but if you live overseas, you have no proper tabien baan in Thailand. Stay off the radar until you are 30 and you are effectively exempted from all military obligations.

Hi all,

My wife just finished studying Thai Law and in the last semester she studied about Thai citizenship laws.

Both Thai Law books and her teacher/lawyer state that Thai citizens don't have the right to dual citizenship. If another citizenship is obtained then they must report this to the Thai authorities. Whereupon they lose their Thai citizenship and passport. If property is bought after becoming an Australian citizen then it has been purchased illegally which gives the Thai government full rights to redeeming the property. We know of Thai people who have lost their property because they have two citizenships. We also know of Thai people who are ignorant of this law and have bought property after obtaining a second citizenship. These people risk their full investment. Being caught depends on a few things, e.g. did the Thai wife change her surname, do officials have reasons to check (easy to check too), does the official care or can he be bribed. You may be lucky, you may not be.

So if your Thai partner gets Australian citizenship then they have officially revoked their Thai citizenship.

For years I was confused by rumours of Thai's losing their property because they were married to a foreigner. This has nothing to do with it. It depends on whether they get a second citizenship.

Just beware - there are laws and sometimes these laws are followed.