rooster59 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Russians rolling back to Phuket Anton Makhrov PHUKET: A resurgence in the number of Russian tourists coming to Phuket has piqued hopes for a Russian revival pumping much-needed life-blood back into Phuket’s critical tourism industry. Fuelling the interest in the revitalised tourist source market are more than six consecutive months of over 20 per cent growth year-on-year in the number of arrivals from Russia, and the fact that the “new” Russians are spending more. Phuket is experiencing two trends: a short term spike in the number of Russians tourists arriving on cheap package tours (see story here), but also an undercurrent of longer-term growth that began six months ago where the focus is on the growing trend for more, higher-spending Russian tourists making their way to Phuket. The Ministry of Tourism and Sports (MoT) reported 599,140 travellers from Russia visited Thailand in January-July, up 19.39% from same period last year. In July alone the arrivals from Russia grew 20.02%, nearly doubling the average growth rate of 10.85% recorded by MoT. “The increase in the number of Russian tourists this year is undeniable, and the number of charter flights to Phuket is increasing,” notes Sathirapong Na Takuatoong, President of Phuket Tourist Association. “The Russians coming now are different from the mass tourism Russians who came two years ago,” Mr Sathirapong told The Phuket News. However, while the new arrivals are spending more on their holidays, they are more selective about what they spend their money on and are seeking out fair value. “I can’t say that these Russians will be higher quality than those who came two years ago, but they are spending more – about B5,000 per person and a day,” Mr Sathirapong noted. Russia ranks sixth on the list of Thailand’s largest source markets and tops the list of non-Asian countries. Thailand’s five top markets – China, Malaysia, South Korea, Japan and India – are all within the Asian region, while Russia is number one source market outside it, outstripping Europe, Australia and USA in terms of volume and often in terns of length of stay and tourist spending. Full story: http://www.thephuketnews.com/russians-rolling-back-to-phuket-59031.php#2cislLiyozc8ufZJ.97 -- © Copyright Phuket News 2016-09-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadGeordie Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Money=Quality=Money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelepulse Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 There are definitely more Russians here than in the past. What my Russian friends tell me however is that Russians are coming due to Egypt and Turkey being closed and that Russians that come now are not the moneyed Russians. Thailand just simply has the cheapest options for Russians venturing abroad at the moment is the word I hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenp Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 13 minutes ago, steelepulse said: There are definitely more Russians here than in the past. What my Russian friends tell me however is that Russians are coming due to Egypt and Turkey being closed and that Russians that come now are not the moneyed Russians. Thailand just simply has the cheapest options for Russians venturing abroad at the moment is the word I hear. I don't care as long they come, The hotel get some money, instead of empty rooms, employee get money and so on, so the tourist money is going in the bank. Great for Thailand, we need them to support the economy. to make it short. The point is, they are arriving here now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 19 minutes ago, carstenp said: I don't care as long they come, The hotel get some money, instead of empty rooms, employee get money and so on, so the tourist money is going in the bank. Great for Thailand, we need them to support the economy. to make it short. The point is, they are arriving here now Simply a short respite that will not last.........they want cheap accommodation, cheap travel, a few fakes and then most of their cash goes into booze.....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgrahmm Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Any way to keep'm just there? Free Vodka upon arrival? Phuket happy - and the rest of Thailand is happy...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xvend Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 (edited) AOT has an App. I use it from time to time to see where flights are arriving from (for business purposes) prior to the massive decline in the Ruble there were 4-8 charter flight arriving and departing directly to/from phuket from Russia in the high season. After the Ruble nose dived it was like 1-3. Today I count 6 and that does not include people transiting from BKK in the LOW season. Edited September 11, 2016 by xvend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Times have certainly changed over the years. In the past men would never bring their women with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Bookings for next season starting 1st November about 70% Russian! Of those I anticipate a high number of late cancellations, several no-shows and a few early check-outs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanny321 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) The Russians rush-in to Phuket ! Edited September 12, 2016 by swanny321 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Well, after the Chinese even they are an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I wonder if TAT has considered that perhaps "quality tourists" might want a "quality experience" when they come? Safe to assume more Russians will come as the weather heads into winter. Just a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlwilliamsjr18 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) The bigger concern, is how many of these arriving Russians will stay? I'd wager, these arrivals are not just about tourism, but a fact finding mission to make Thailand their home. Don't get me wrong they have the right to do so. But, to do so with dubious intent is not what Thailand needs. We have enough weeds in the garden. Edited September 12, 2016 by jlwilliamsjr18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Makes me wonder why they don't rush to their "own" tropical island. Looks like Cuba is lucky this time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 18 hours ago, carstenp said: The point is, they are arriving here now yup.....its their turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twix38 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 well, I hope they don't come back here as it's been much nicer since their general departure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 hotel owners be happy and can increase the room rates now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xineohp Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 28 minutes ago, wombat said: yup.....its their turn. I guess they will do what any wombat does - eats roots, shoots and leaves ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Phuket sorely needs them............... I think............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 41 minutes ago, jlwilliamsjr18 said: The bigger concern, is how many of these arriving Russians will stay? I'd wager, these arrivals are not just about tourism, but a fact finding mission to make Thailand their home. Don't get me wrong they have the right to do so. But, to do so with dubious intent is not what Thailand needs. We have enough weeds in the garden. Ever thought of writing fiction for a living? You're very talented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 22 minutes ago, bristolgeoff said: hotel owners be happy and can increase the room rates now. No, You have it at least half wrong. (1) Hotel owners are never happy. (2) They increase room rates when tourism numbers drop to keep profits the same. (3) And also increase them in the busy season to make hay while the sun is shining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 hour ago, car720 said: Times have certainly changed over the years. In the past men would never bring their women with them. 2 is boring, 3 is, well special Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 19 hours ago, steelepulse said: There are definitely more Russians here than in the past. What my Russian friends tell me however is that Russians are coming due to Egypt and Turkey being closed and that Russians that come now are not the moneyed Russians. Thailand just simply has the cheapest options for Russians venturing abroad at the moment is the word I hear. Yes, we can thank extreme Islamic action in Egypt and the wider middle east for their return. I wonder how the ruble v/s THB has moved over the last recent months. I have not been watching that particular trade. That might have a part influence too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 hour ago, swanny321 said: The Russians rush-in to Phuket ! And possibly rush out when they find the beach chairs and umbrellas at the beach have all disappeared, what an insensitive comment for business owners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 19 hours ago, steelepulse said: There are definitely more Russians here than in the past. What my Russian friends tell me however is that Russians are coming due to Egypt and Turkey being closed and that Russians that come now are not the moneyed Russians. Thailand just simply has the cheapest options for Russians venturing abroad at the moment is the word I hear. I was in Nha Trang in May and August. The place is full of Russians. Far more than English speakers. Cheaper than Thailand, the beaches/water were cleaner hotels, food, alcohol were cheaper and of excellent quality. All menus in Russian. Just no overt sex scene.The only reason why some Russians are still coming to Thailand is the particular city they come from does not have direct flights to Nha Trang or Da Nang. Just my thought. The Russians in Nha Trang were all flying in direct on charters. Just my opinion but if countries like Vietnam, Cambodia, get regular scheduled flight service to/from Western Countries Thai tourism would be in big trouble. As it is BKK is well established and Phuket is also broadening its international travelers who can now fly direct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldave1951 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Emster23 said: I wonder if TAT has considered that perhaps "quality tourists" might want a "quality experience" when they come? Safe to assume more Russians will come as the weather heads into winter. Just a guess. i doubt it by just look at the amount of soi dogs ready to give you a 15.000 baht coarse of treatment for a bite in case it has rabies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldave1951 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 And how can you belive T.A.T with the sort of crap it comes out with, surely it would be better consensus if the tourist businesses of Thailand had an input in the arrival figures and not this bull$h1t they come out with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 24 minutes ago, The Deerhunter said: No, You have it at least half wrong. (1) Hotel owners are never happy. (2) They increase room rates when tourism numbers drop to keep profits the same. (3) And also increase them in the busy season to make hay while the sun is shining. You really don't have a clue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, madmitch said: You really don't have a clue! Thanks for that oh you happy hotelier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldave1951 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 minute ago, The Deerhunter said: Thanks for that oh you happy hotelier! and neither do you i have not increased my prices in the 4 years i have run my guest house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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