Off his message again: Trump vows to sue all female accusers

[boomerangutang]

10 minutes ago, Strange said:

Slut? No. Opposite of a slut. A whore. Whore does it for money. I don't care, I watch porn, but they are hardly classy examples of integrity. 

 

       Do they have to be "classy examples of integrity" to be believable?   Or perhaps it's ok for The Divider to illegally proposition a young woman if it appears that person is lower class.  Strange, you sound like a judgmental person.  If you're struck by a bus and lay bleeding on the road, would it matter to you whether the person who stopped your bleeding was a porn actor or a Methodist preacher?   

 

       I've met many people in my life.  A person's choice of how to make a living in no way determines the integrity of that person.  I knew a Rhodes scholars from Yale who was a quick-to-anger drugged out nut-case - and another guy who made coat buttons from deer antlers, who was one of the most decent people I've ever met.   I know a very rich attorney who just bought a large hotel in downtown L.A. and a woman who collects leaves in the forest to package in little bags to sell as herbal tea.  Can you guess which of those two has more integrity?   

[Jingthing]

if all these women were molested why did they wait for trump to run before coming forward? dodgey s#it. adult victims should have one year to come forward when there is a chance of the truth coming out or not come forward at all.

Watch debate 2. There is your answer as to why now.

Next ...

[boomerangutang]

7 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

Trump claimed on October 14th that he had evidence that would refute all of these charges, and that it would be provided shortly. Given all that is at stake, if he had any evidence to refute these charges, don't you think he would provide it before the election? His threat to sue after the election is just a cop-out, and yet one more example of his bullying and dishonesty.

 

Trump made a claim in mid-October, and didn't follow up on it?!  Golly Jeezus.  Is someone insinuating Trump is not good on his word?   That he breaks promises?   I'm speechless.  Perish the thought.   I thought every billionaire was honest and trustworthy.   ....particularly billionaires with gold plated toilets in their private jets.

[dunroaming]

16 minutes ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

if all these women were molested why did they wait for trump to run before coming forward? dodgey s#it. adult victims should have one year to come forward when there is a chance of the truth coming out or not come forward at all.

 

What again?  This has been covered so many times on here. Obviously you don't like the answer so.........

[Strange]

7 minutes ago, boomerangutang said:

Strange, you sound like a judgmental person.  If you're struck by a bus and lay bleeding on the road, would it matter to you whether the person who stopped your bleeding was a porn actor or a Methodist preacher?   

 

What kind of dumb nonsense is this? 

 

Of course I wouldn't care and of course I don't care what people choose to do with their lives to make money. 

 

But I'm not so naive to think that I would want a pornstar to go to elementary schools and teach my children "right and wrong" either. 

 

I mean she was born pretty and screws on camera for money. Hardy a case of skill. 

[boomerangutang]

12 minutes ago, Prbkk said:

Really? One was a porn star and accepted an invitation to an apartment but declined an offer of paid sex; the other was an intern having sexual relations with The President, 30 years her senior, in a closet off the Oval Office. So one is an outrage, the other a mere "indiscretion"? ( I'm not particularly fussed by either).

 

One was consensual sex, which is not illegal.  The other was soliciting sex for money, which is illegal.   .....and then there are the dozen other allegations of sexual attacks - allegations which dovetail with things Trump has said he likes to do.

 

9 minutes ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

if all these women were molested why did they wait for trump to run before coming forward? dodgey s#it. adult victims should have one year to come forward when there is a chance of the truth coming out or not come forward at all.

 

        So you want to instate a one year statute of limitations on sex-related crimes?  Note, the victim is not talking about a legal case.  She's not threatening to sue.   She came out because she truly felt the incident needed to be aired.  She's doing a service for anyone who wants to get a better idea of the character of the person who is running to be prez of the most powerful country in the world.   The main reason she had a lawyer by her side was:  Trump has harassed, besmirched and threatened to sue every woman who has come forth to inform American voters.  Some of us are thankful and impressed by their courage to step forward.   They're doing an important service.

 

       Trumpsters think, if Trump were elected, that stories like this (and worse) would cease once he's elected, then they're hopelessly naive.   Do Trumpsters want a president who is continually hounded, hamstrung and/or indicted or impeached.  Trump has a court hearing in December for allegedly roughly raping a 13 yr old.  There's another 13 yr old who went missing at that time, who was also at the same sex parties, and there's another girl (who's not missing) who is a witness.   There are going to be lawsuits regarding Trump's rip-off University.  How can a man do an executive job when he's constantly dodging or instating lawsuits?  All that, from a man with a focus capability of a pigeon.    

[williamgeorgeallen]

5 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

 

What again?  This has been covered so many times on here. Obviously you don't like the answer so.........

no it was a genuine question. i was in cambodia on a trip for the last week and have missed the explanation. back to firing on TV full barrels till i got to hua hin next week.

[boomerangutang]

1 hour ago, Prbkk said:

 

In this case it's not so much a question of consent as one of credibility. It seems the allegation is that she went to his apartment, was offered $10,000 for services ( and a ride home in his personal jet). She declined and left.

Somehow it doesn't have a ring of truth and in any case would it have been newsworthy even if true? Clearly not , but CNN seems to think so.

 

Not so.  She went to his apartment with 2 other girls.  Trump, dressed in a robe, stepped and kissed each full on the mouth.  Later, when she was at her apartment, Trump had his bodyguard call her to get her to agree to go out with him.  After that, Trump himself called her.  She said no a second time.  Trump then tried a 3rd time, offering $10k.  She again refused.   The girl felt bad about the whole thing, and told her friends about it at the time.

[williamgeorgeallen]

12 minutes ago, boomerangutang said:

 

One was consensual sex, which is not illegal.  The other was soliciting sex for money, which is illegal.   .....and then there are the dozen other allegations of sexual attacks - allegations which dovetail with things Trump has said he likes to do.

 

 

        So you want to instate a one year statute of limitations on sex-related crimes?  Note, the victim is not talking about a legal case.  She's not threatening to sue.   She came out because she truly felt the incident needed to be aired.  She's doing a service for anyone who wants to get a better idea of the character of the person who is running to be prez of the most powerful country in the world.   The main reason she had a lawyer by her side was:  Trump has harassed, besmirched and threatened to sue every woman who has come forth to inform American voters.  Some of us are thankful and impressed by their courage to step forward.   They're doing an important service.

 

       Trumpsters think, if Trump were elected, that stories like this (and worse) would cease once he's elected, then they're hopelessly naive.   Do Trumpsters want a president who is continually hounded, hamstrung and/or indicted or impeached.  Trump has a court hearing in December for allegedly roughly raping a 13 yr old.  There's another 13 yr old who went missing at that time, who was also at the same sex parties, and there's another girl (who's not missing) who is a witness.   There are going to be lawsuits regarding Trump's rip-off University.  How can a man do an executive job when he's constantly dodging or instating lawsuits?  All that, from a man with a focus capability of a pigeon.    

well bill managed it. think there are more pressing issues than this which the election should be focused. anyone who believes they have been done wrong should bring charges against trump or drop the matter.

[Scott]

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[Chicog]

9 minutes ago, boomerangutang said:

 

Not so.  She went to his apartment with 2 other girls.  Trump, dressed in a robe, stepped and kissed each full on the mouth.  Later, when she was at her apartment, Trump had his bodyguard call her to get her to agree to go out with him.  After that, Trump himself called her.  She said no a second time.  Trump then tried a 3rd time, offering $10k.  She again refused.   The girl felt bad about the whole thing, and told her friends about it at the time.

 

I think the issue here is not that there are women who get paid for having sex (with men they probably like), but that a married presidential candidate is trying to buy women for sex. 

In my book it doesn't matter if she's a hooker or not.

Goes to the character of the presidential candidate m'lud. If a Democrat got caught doing that, the Republicans would be out with their torches and pitchforks, the hypocrites.

 

 

[boomerangutang]

      Strange looks down his nose at any woman who 'screws for money, on camera.'   That would be about half the actresses in Hollywood, and about a third of housewives.  .....at least the 'screws for money' part, ....not sure about the 'on camera' part.   Is it more decrepit if it's filmed?   I don't know.  Maybe I can get a $3 million gov't grant to do a study on that.  The Feds paid almost that much to fund a study; 'why toddlers' tricycles tip over'  ....and came to the conclusion:  with 3 wheels, they're unsteady.    

 

Are you insinuating that Trump's (and other rich men's) wives don't screw for money?   That's interesting.  Perhaps it's also true the moon is made of brie cheese.

[boomerangutang]

6 minutes ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

well bill managed it. think there are more pressing issues than this which the election should be focused. anyone who believes they have been done wrong should bring charges against trump or drop the matter.

 

       You're entitled to think whatever you want.  Trump supporters would understandably want all these sorts of stories swept under the rug.  It's mostly about CHARACTER ASSESSMENT.  It's hard for me to fathom who is still an undecided voter, but there are some voters who will not be sure who to vote for until they step into the voting booth.   When they're about to mark their ballot, they might just give a thought to which candidate has the worse character traits.  For that, and many other reasons, Trump will lose bigly. 

[thaibeachlovers]

8 hours ago, freebyrd said:

 

So if your chosen one gets in, you're happy for him to be wasting time on this when he should be taking care of the 400 million souls in his charge?  You American Trumpites have a really skewed idea of leadership and democracy. USA, USA.....

I wasn't going to bother responding to the usual rants, but yours is a classic that can't be ignored. Given that Trump is not a lawyer, how much time do you think he is going to spend on it?

 

BTW, that charge can be laid against Obama, who is not doing his job that the taxpayers spend a lot on. He is spending a great deal of the citizens time on campaigning for Clinton.

[thaibeachlovers]

48 minutes ago, boomerangutang said:

 

Not so.  She went to his apartment with 2 other girls.  Trump, dressed in a robe, stepped and kissed each full on the mouth.  Later, when she was at her apartment, Trump had his bodyguard call her to get her to agree to go out with him.  After that, Trump himself called her.  She said no a second time.  Trump then tried a 3rd time, offering $10k.  She again refused.   The girl felt bad about the whole thing, and told her friends about it at the time.

This is getting to the science fiction stage.

Why would Trump pay $10k for a one night stand when he could undoubtedly get as many offers of freebies as he wanted if he went to any up market bar in N Y? Money ( and power ) is the greatest aphrodisiac known to man. Men like Trump have to beat the groupies off with a stick.

Edited October 23, 2016 by thaibeachlovers

[tonray]

The last 2 cases of people being convinced that the government and system were out to get them did not turn out so well for Randy Weaver and David Koresh. Let's hope the Trumpettes use a little judgement after the election to avoid the inevitable.

[sirineou]

9 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I wasn't going to bother responding to the usual rants, but yours is a classic that can't be ignored. Given that Trump is not a lawyer, how much time do you think he is going to spend on it?

 

BTW, that charge can be laid against Obama, who is not doing his job that the taxpayers spend a lot on. He is spending a great deal of the citizens time on campaigning for Clinton.

 

He might not be a lawyer, but he would be the plaintiff, so he would need to spend as much time as it would be required by his lawyer,  the lawyers of the defendants, and the court.

Obama would be happy to get back to Washington, just as soon as you guys decide to consider his nomination for the supreme court.

He is not doing anything every president has not done in the past, except of course Bush who no one would had  get cough dead being seen with . 

[Xircal]

8 hours ago, Strange said:

 

What if it isn't?

 

What if its found to be legit?

 

Why wait until after the election if he has evidence that a number of women are making false accusations against him? Revealing the evidence now would help his campaign immensively.

 

Personally though I think he's lost the plot completely. He seems to have forgotten that he's on the world stage now not in the boardroom in one of his businesses where he can shout and scream all he likes. He's running for President of the United States, the highest office in the country yet he's demonstrating daily how he's utterly incapable of handling a crisis.

 

Doesn't the guy have any spin doctors? Or if he has does he ever listen to any of them?

 

As for the Republican party, somebody needs to look into their electoral process and determine how they allowed a loose cannon like Trump to become their prime candidate in this election. The man just doesn't have any humility and thinks that attack is the best way to resolve a problem. If it ever came to a standoff between Russia and the US, Trump's finger will be on the nuclear missile launcher button before any attempt can be made to resolve the conflict diplomatically you can be sure of that.

[Chicog]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

This is getting to the science fiction stage.

Why would Trump pay $10k for a one night stand when he could undoubtedly get as many offers of freebies as he wanted if he went to any up market bar in N Y? Money ( and power ) is the greatest aphrodisiac known to man. Men like Trump have to beat the groupies off with a stick.

 

Well I have seen some examples of her, er, work *cough*. I could see the attraction.

Purely in the interests of political research you understand.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

48 minutes ago, Xircal said:

 

Why wait until after the election if he has evidence that a number of women are making false accusations against him? Revealing the evidence now would help his campaign immensively.

 

Personally though I think he's lost the plot completely. He seems to have forgotten that he's on the world stage now not in the boardroom in one of his businesses where he can shout and scream all he likes. He's running for President of the United States, the highest office in the country yet he's demonstrating daily how he's utterly incapable of handling a crisis.

 

Doesn't the guy have any spin doctors? Or if he has does he ever listen to any of them?

 

As for the Republican party, somebody needs to look into their electoral process and determine how they allowed a loose cannon like Trump to become their prime candidate in this election. The man just doesn't have any humility and thinks that attack is the best way to resolve a problem. If it ever came to a standoff between Russia and the US, Trump's finger will be on the nuclear missile launcher button before any attempt can be made to resolve the conflict diplomatically you can be sure of that.

He's obviously warning any more thinking of falsely accusing him not to do so.

 

The GOP can't stop any qualified person from standing as a candidate, and he won the primaries. End of story.

 

Clinton is on record as threatening to use the nuclear option, so she isn't any safer. She hates Putin and Trump doesn't, plus she wants to set up no fly zones and that could cause WW3 if the US shot down a Russian plane.

[ilostmypassword]

6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

He's obviously warning any more thinking of falsely accusing him not to do so.

 

The GOP can't stop any qualified person from standing as a candidate, and he won the primaries. End of story.

 

Clinton is on record as threatening to use the nuclear option, so she isn't any safer. She hates Putin and Trump doesn't, plus she wants to set up no fly zones and that could cause WW3 if the US shot down a Russian plane.

He has a history of suing or threatening to sue people who tell the truth about him.

[Chicog]

56 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Clinton is on record as threatening to use the nuclear option

 

Link please.

 

[Tawan Dok Krating Daeng]

4 hours ago, Strange said:

 

Dumb extremist post

 

 

Watch it all the time. 

 

 

Slut? No. Opposite of a slut. A whore. Whore does it for money. I don't care, I watch porn, but they are hardly classy examples of integrity. 

 

Slut shaming a sex worker. Well done. I guess you can only go for the low hanging fruit.

 

There is a commonality among Trump supporters beyond the fact that the core is comprised of middle-aged to elderly poorly educated straight white men. There is a mindset that is entirely mid Century bourgeoise. A kind of Normal Rockwell fantasy that hides some ugly truths.

 

These are people who have experienced limited success. So they fear change and lash out at Progressives and Liberals and others who embrace change.

 

These are people who don't know how to engage with people of different races and beliefs. Perhaps they never went to school with a Black or Latino or Asian kid and so fear the unknown.

 

These are people who don't understand and cannot deal with issues of sexual preference and gender identity. Perhaps they have had feelings or notions in the past that they have suppressed or perhaps they have been indoctrinated into some religiously driven set of behaviors. So they protest marriage equality and refuse transgenders the dignity of taking a leak in comfort.

 

They live in a comfortable bubble surrounded by like minded people. There is no problem with this but when they start to believe that they can force their reactionary, backwards and negative views on others, then it is time to stand up and be counted.

 

These are people who have developed personality traits that are egocentric and see the world around them as something to benefit them so they are confounded when others don't appreciate being objectified. Like women. Trump objectifies them and sees them as purely for his pleasure. He feels entitled to sexually assault them at will and to brag about it. Exactly the same mentality as someone who objectifies sex workers. It comes as some shock to them that the vote of a sex worker or adult film performer is not worth less than their own vote. Similarly with their opinion.

 

This is the commonality of the Trumpist mentality. You see it all around him. Bannon. Ailes. Hannity. Pence. All these old men with their mid Century mentality. We see it above in the quite grotesque and potty mouthed observations of the value of the word of a sex worker. It is one of the most disgusting things I have read on TVF and that says a lot.

 

For shame.

[Scott]

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[boomerangutang]

Here's a list of Trump accusers, what they said happened, and Trump's campaign responses (all denials, of course).  from NPR.org.    There are 21 women thus far.  The list doesn't included pre-mid-teens who are taking Trump to court in December.  If it waddles, quacks, and looks like a pervert, it must be a pervert.

 

 

[Krataiboy]

If Hillary is so offended by misogynists, she should at least try to be consistent.

 

The exploits of her husband - a habitual adulterer and alleged serial rapist - make Trump's clumsy gropes, cuddles and kisses look like Boy Scout stuff. 

 

Yet while batting for Trump's female accuser, Hillary has egregiously sought to defend the far more predatory Bill and rubbish the testimony of his numerous victims.

 

One can't help wondering what this modern Lady Macbeth will feel if and when she takes the President's chair for the first time in the Oval Office where the Clinton Presidency had one of its least distinguished moments.

 

Knowing her, sadly probably nothing.

[Thakkar]

13 hours ago, Prbkk said:

 

In this case it's not so much a question of consent as one of credibility. It seems the allegation is that she went to his apartment, was offered $10,000 for services ( and a ride home in his personal jet). She declined and left.

Somehow it doesn't have a ring of truth and in any case would it have been newsworthy even if true? Clearly not , but CNN seems to think so.

 

So you're saying it's no big deal.

Coincidentally,  that's what goes through the ladies' minds after Trump drops his pants!

 

<rim shot>

 

T

[LannaGuy]

for me none of the PC stuff bothers me... not even these opportunists coming out at the last moment with their 'painful' stories bless them. What bothers me much more is the way CNN has converted into the Clinton News Network and their totally biased coverage and reporting. And, BTW, I supported Bernie and loath Republicans am pro legalize Pot, for Women's right to choose and against big business etc. etc. etc.  But surely America can SEE how manipulative it all is?  sadly I think most cannot.

[ilostmypassword]

13 hours ago, tonray said:

The last 2 cases of people being convinced that the government and system were out to get them did not turn out so well for Randy Weaver and David Koresh. Let's hope the Trumpettes use a little judgement after the election to avoid the inevitable.

Really? Those were the last 2 cases? I'd advise you to cruise the internet.  There are lots and lots of people convinced that the government is out to get them.  I guess they're all going to wind up dead, too.

[Strange]

5 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

Same kind of judgements used to be made about gay people. I say "used to" but maybe that's over-charitable.

 

We are not talking about gay people. They are born that way and don't have a choice. A pornstar HAS a choice and chooses to screw on camera for money.