PT Paul Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: 45 doesn't care about the working class. Any working class people that believe that were CONNED. Do you speak on their behalf like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 minute ago, PT Paul said: Do you speak on their behalf like? As an American, more than YOU do. Like. This is a thread about the resistance and that resistance is real, growing, and strong and just because you think Americans should all line up and salute their orange Mussolini ... well, that's never gonna happen, so don't even bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PT Paul Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: As an American, more than YOU do. Like. If you live in Thailand, you can't be that bothered. Lot of champagne socialists around, as a Scouser we know what its like to be screwed over by politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, PT Paul said: If you live in Thailand, you can't be that bothered. Lot of champagne socialists around, as a Scouser we know what its like to be screwed over by politicians. Don't tell me how bothered I am. This is a serious topic and I feel you're here just to derail it and disrupt it. Yes, trumpists keep telling the resistance to shut up. Won't happen. That's what fascists have done in history and Americans STILL (for now) have the freedom to resist and they'll bloody well use it. IGNORE LIST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PT Paul Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 The resistance?? Load of middle class whingers, same as the Brexit Remoaners. If it's raining they wouldn't go out to vote as they couldn't park their Range Rover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Resistance in the workplace, on labor issues, boycotts, etc.! No doubt this ever growing resistance movement will be happening as long as 45 is on office. Quote Where’s the best place to resist Trump? At work. As thousands of protesters descended on JFK Airport in New York on Saturday to protest Friday’s executive order blocking citizens from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the United States, the AFL-CIO affiliated, 19,000-member Taxi Workers Alliance called for a solidarity strike. In response, Uber, the controversial “ride-sharing” service whose chief executive sits on Trump’s business advisory board, suspended its surge pricing and continued operation, effectively attempting to break the strike. Reaction was swift: #deleteuber quickly became a trending topic on Twitter as users posted screenshots deleting their accounts. https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/01/31/wheres-the-best-place-to-resist-trump-at-work/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USPatriot Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 On 21/11/2016 at 2:51 PM, ehs818 said: The majority of the electorate did not vote for Trump. In fact almost 75% of eligible voters did not vote for Trump. Of those that did vote, about 1,800,000 more votes for Clinton have been counted so far, with more mail in ballots and provisional ballots still being counted. He did not receive a 'mandate' from the voters. In fact, he did not even have a plurality, much less a majority. He is only the 'winner' due to the form of voting that exists in the USA. The Electoral College meets on December 19 to cast their ballots. Still time for an upset as some US states require the Electoral College members to vote for their states winner, while some certainly do not. While it's possible that an upset may still occur to benefit Clinton, it's highly unlikely. You think the Democrats are 'sore losers'? If that turnabout were to occur, you'd see real violence from Trump supporters if enough of the Electoral College voters were to alter their votes based on the information that the poplular vote went to Clinton and not to Trump. If allowed to vote freely the results could be reversed. Most voters did not vote. Trump won stop melting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, USPatriot said: Most voters did not vote. Trump won stop melting The topic is not about denying that he won. Winning is not the same thing as having a mandate. When a new president loses the popular vote, the normal thing to do is try very hard to unify the nation, realizing she's supposed to be the president of all the people, including those that didn't vote for her. 45 has done exactly the opposite. My theory is that it's an intentional tactic. To understand, read the article I recently posted about Chavez's tactics. He WANTS a significant portion of Americans (which are the majority actually) to be his ENEMIES. This is already very very ugly and very very dangerous, but unifying behind a populist demagogue nutcase like trump is not going to ever happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 39 minutes ago, USPatriot said: Most voters did not vote. Trump won stop melting One thing that can be said for sure is that the only snowflakes that are melting are the ones caused by the weather, because the anti-trump snowflakes are causing a blizzard and they ain't melting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USPatriot Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 2 hours ago, Jingthing said: The topic is not about denying that he won. Winning is not the same thing as having a mandate. When a new president loses the popular vote, the normal thing to do is try very hard to unify the nation, realizing she's supposed to be the president of all the people, including those that didn't vote for her. 45 has done exactly the opposite. My theory is that it's an intentional tactic. To understand, read the article I recently posted about Chavez's tactics. He WANTS a significant portion of Americans (which are the majority actually) to be his ENEMIES. This is already very very ugly and very very dangerous, but unifying behind a populist demagogue nutcase like trump is not going to ever happen. He is doing exactly what he said he would do. I guess the people are use to politicians not doing what they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 On 2016-11-21 at 9:14 AM, Jingthing said: We have the constitutional right to dissent. Accept that. Reality plain and simple. Accepting that he will be our president is not the same thing as worshiping him, Il Duce style. I accept that he legally won, even though Hillary Clinton now leads in the popular vote by about 1.7 MILLION votes. We won´t forget that the republicans opposed Obama for eight years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Listen to what Ryan says, 1,16 into the tape. 555555 Paul Ryan Caught On Hot Mic Calling Press Conference A ‘Waste Of My F***ing Time’ http://bipartisanreport.com/2017/01/31/paul-ryan-caught-on-hot-mic-calling-press-conference-a-waste-of-my-fing-time/ Also. The leaks coming out of the Trump White House cast the president as a clueless child. http://bipartisanreport.com/2017/01/31/paul-ryan-caught-on-hot-mic-calling-press-conference-a-waste-of-my-fing-time/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Read this sitting down: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/03/how-to-build-an-autocracy/513872/ How to Build an Autocracy The preconditions are present in the U.S. today. Here’s the playbook Donald Trump could use to set the country down a path toward illiberalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 2 hours ago, USPatriot said: He is doing exactly what he said he would do. I guess the people are use to politicians not doing what they say. Weren't the Trump haters - the "Trump resistance" - going on and on about how he was not going to keep his promises? Well, guess what, he IS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Many silly people thought he would be more presidential (unifying / not INSANE) after being elected. Didn't happen. Won't ever happen. https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 13 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said: Weren't the Trump haters - the "Trump resistance" - going on and on about how he was not going to keep his promises? Well, guess what, he IS. Just like the Trump supporters were going on and on about how unconstitutional and wrong it was for the former president to use Executive Orders. Seems some people aren't complaining now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 4 hours ago, USPatriot said: He is doing exactly what he said he would do. I guess the people are use to politicians not doing what they say. Fulfilling his campaign promises is one thing. Doing it properly is another. He's missing it by a mile on the latter. And creating a huge mess: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/30/politics/donald-trump-republicans-confusion-immigration-ban/index.html Quote Trump move leads to confusion and chaos between White House, Congress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 This article makes sense to me. While mass street protests are heartening, we're losing our country to a dictator anyway. As he consolidates power and purges all "enemies" from his regime ... it's going to be massively difficult to ever get it back. Never forget trump's early mentor was the villain Roy Cohn, close aide of Senator Joseph McCarthy. If you don't know what those names mean, look them up. See: Russia. https://medium.com/@jakefuentes/the-immigration-ban-is-a-headfake-and-were-falling-for-it-b8910e78f0c5#.lhzzs4yo1 Quote The Immigration Ban is a Headfake, and We’re Falling For It Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 IMPEACHMENT please? Please make it happen, the sooner the better. Worth reading this article as it describes trump's mental disorder in a slightly different way. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-inevitability-of-impeachment_us_588e8d52e4b0b065cbbcd09f Quote The Inevitability Of Impeachment After just one week. Trump has been trying to govern by impulse, on whim, for personal retribution, for profit, by decree ― as if he had been elected dictator. It doesn’t work, and the wheels are coming off the bus. After a week! Impeachment is gaining ground because it is the only way to get him out, and because Republicans are already deserting this president in droves, and because the man is psychiatrically incapable of checking whether something is legal before he does it. To the uninformed, no, this isn't a way to change the election results. There isn't a way to do that. It wouldn't make Hillary Clinton president. It would make Mike Pence president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 16 hours ago, Credo said: Just like the Trump supporters were going on and on about how unconstitutional and wrong it was for the former president to use Executive Orders. Seems some people aren't complaining now. Some of the former president's executive orders were constitutional overreach because he used them to make new laws. Trump's executive orders are based on existing law as they are supposed to be. The Obama Administration's views have been rejected repeatedly in the Supreme Court. The "Trump resistance" likes to ignore that to portray him dishonestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechguy Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 23 hours ago, Jingthing said: Don't tell me how bothered I am. This is a serious topic and I feel you're here just to derail it and disrupt it. Yes, trumpists keep telling the resistance to shut up. Won't happen. That's what fascists have done in history and Americans STILL (for now) have the freedom to resist and they'll bloody well use it. IGNORE LIST. Actually I wasn't a big fan of Trump, but after watching the pathetic theatrics of the left, I like him more everyday. If the Dems want change, I would suggest they quit electing idiots, like Pelosi, Schumer, and Franken. Hopefully they will get moved out of the way, for people like Tulsi Gabbard and the next generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechguy Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 17 hours ago, Jingthing said: Many silly people thought he would be more presidential (unifying / not INSANE) after being elected. Didn't happen. Won't ever happen. https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump Why would he unify with someone who is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 minute ago, beechguy said: Why would he unify with someone who is wrong. Incoherent. Ignore list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, beechguy said: Actually I wasn't a big fan of Trump, but after watching the pathetic theatrics of the left, I like him more everyday. If the Dems want change, I would suggest they quit electing idiots, like Pelosi, Schumer, and Franken. Hopefully they will get moved out of the way, for people like Tulsi Gabbard and the next generation. That is how I feel. He is screwing up occasionally, but IMO the good far outweighs the bad and he is often maligned unfairly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechguy Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 13 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Incoherent. Ignore list. As they say, if you can't stand the heat..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Why the resistance? WARNING sign from the United States Holocaust Museum. Mostly there under trump. This picture has gone VIRAL on the net. A United States Holocaust Memorial Museum poster detailing the “early warning signs of fascism” has gone viral on Twitter, garnering hundreds of thousands of likes and retweets. Fits here so here it is: http://forward.com/fast-forward/361808/holocaust-museum-poster-listing-fascisms-warning-signs-goes-viral/ On topic to this thread mostly near the end. Always good to see Stewart's take on things, especially in these DARK political times: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 21 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said: That is how I feel. He is screwing up occasionally, but IMO the good far outweighs the bad and he is often maligned unfairly. I don't see how comments like that fit on this thread. It's about the anti-trump resistance. Something that exists and is growing. Your POV is clearly supportive of trump. What does that have to do with the anti-trump resistance? This isn't a pro vs. con on trump debate thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechguy Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Why the resistance? WARNING from the United States Holocaust Museum. Mostly there under trump. http://hollywoodlife.com/2017/01/31/fascism-signs-warning-holocaust-museum-donald-trump-viral-photo/ I consider the source, I haven't seen Stewart's or any other Hollywood celebs qualifications to seriously consider their opinion to have any credibility. Perhaps that's a problem the Democrat should consider, when so many aren't taken seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechguy Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: I don't see how comments like that fit on this thread. It's about the anti-trump resistance. Something that exists and is growing. Your POV is clearly supportive of trump. What does that have to do with the anti-trump resistance? This isn't a pro vs. con on trump thread. Why do you not think a rebuttal is valid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 BOOKS shedding light on the resistance -- https://qz.com/899559/all-the-dystopian-fiction-you-need-to-read-to-resist-donald-trump-and-predict-what-hell-do-next/ Quote Here are the books you need to read if you’re going to resist Donald Trump The incentives in an autocratic society are usually the opposite of those in a cooperative society. For a while, at least, the majority is able to prosper at the expense of the most vulnerable members of society. But as these books show, any advantages that people gain from allying themselves with dictators and bullies are temporary at best—and harm everyone in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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