The Lowest Point in my Life

[Bonobojt]

49 minutes ago, dentonian said:

 

Quote from Wickipedia ref Pudendal Nerve Canal, also know as 'Alcock's Canal'.

 

 

Ouch!

she never diagnosed me with it, she's just a GP, not a nerve or spine specialist, she just mentioned it, I'll see what happens next with the neurologist and hopefully MRI.. thanks for trying to make me more scared and worried 

[Bonobojt]

On 12/3/2016 at 9:59 PM, balo said:

 

 

It's nerve damage !!  Please listen to me and you could save some time for recovery .  I went through back pain and the pain radiated down my left leg ,  it was coming from my L5 and L4 spine , so the nerves that caused my pain . It was revealed on my MRI that a fragment from the spine touched the nerve,  I went through hell for months.   The doctor at the spine clinic in Bangkok wanted to do a simple surgery to remove the fragment but I decided to wait .

Why ?  Because I was recommended to try a high dosage of Vitamin B  B1 - B6 and B12 .  I am not joking here. A high dosage of vitamiin B will repair the nerves , and they will find other ways to connect.  You can just google it. 

 

I was pain free after 6 months on Vitamin B . Most important is B1 and B12 , be careful with B6 as it could cause other problems .   

 

 

 

 

 

thanks, I'll buy a b12 complex capsule and a b1 complex capsule today, did  you take the b supplements on an empty stomach or with food ?

[Rob13]

5 minutes ago, Bonobojt said:

thanks, I'll buy a b12 complex capsule and a b1 complex capsule today, did  you take the b supplements on an empty stomach or with food ?

 

If you go by a clinic you can get injection for a 50 baht or so. 

[Bonobojt]

2 minutes ago, Rob13 said:

 

If you go by a clinic you can get injection for a 50 baht or so. 

I'm in the UK at the moment, I can't get injections here unless I'm B12 deficient, which I got tested for and I'm not, did get b12 injections while I was in Thailand though as I've always thought in the back of my mind my problem was nerve related, but at hospitals, not clinics so it wasn't as cheap.

 

[Sheryl]

You really need to relax and not focus so much on this. You have taken reasonable steps, you have appointments with specialist, and there is no emergency. No need to fret or do anything between now and then.

 

The more you focus on this, the more anxious you will get and that in turn will exacerbate the symptoms greatly.

 

Make a resolution to just divert your attention from the whole thing until the day of your appointment comes round and you can be evaluated by a neurologist.  These sensations/discomfort  (which has been covered in multiple past threads as well, each time  with a different presumed cause as the focus of worry) and fear that there is something wrong are taking over your life. This is neither necessary nor helpful.

[balo]

5 hours ago, Bonobojt said:

thanks, I'll buy a b12 complex capsule and a b1 complex capsule today, did  you take the b supplements on an empty stomach or with food ?

 

After the meal should be fine. Minimum dosage should be 500 mcg B12 (2 daily morning and evening)  and 100 mg B1.

 

 

 

Edited December 7, 2016 by balo

[flagator96]

On 12/7/2016 at 11:50 AM, Bonobojt said:

she never diagnosed me with it, she's just a GP, not a nerve or spine specialist, she just mentioned it, I'll see what happens next with the neurologist and hopefully MRI.. thanks for trying to make me more scared and worried 

 

 

Dear OP,

 

A neurology consult  and MRI of the lumbar spine / sacrum sounds like a reasonable approach.

 

It sounds like you are having some kind of residual neuropathy from your previous fall / injury. This is certainly quite common, given your history. If the MRI shows nothing wildly wrong with you, there are lots of options.

 

If you want a natural approach to managing pain you may want to research organic turmeric for pain, as well as finding a skilled accupuncturist. Most pharmaceutical approaches for long term pain management are loaded with side-effects and undesirable consequences.

 

This website is a great resource for all things turmeric:  http://www.turmericforhealth.com/

 

Certainly this type of situation will need patience, perseverance, and adjusting your activities, but with time you may be able to fully recover.

[flagator96]

On 12/4/2016 at 11:05 AM, Bonobojt said:

 

 

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Edited December 11, 2016 by flagator96
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[Bonobojt]

37 minutes ago, flagator96 said:

 

 

Dear OP,

 

A neurology consult  and MRI of the lumbar spine / sacrum sounds like a reasonable approach.

 

It sounds like you are having some kind of residual neuropathy from your previous fall / injury. This is certainly quite common, given your history. If the MRI shows nothing wildly wrong with you, there are lots of options.

 

If you want a natural approach to managing pain you may want to research organic turmeric for pain, as well as finding a skilled accupuncturist. Most pharmaceutical approaches for long term pain management are loaded with side-effects and undesirable consequences.

 

This website is a great resource for all things turmeric:  http://www.turmericforhealth.com/

 

Certainly this type of situation will need patience, perseverance, and adjusting your activities, but with time you may be able to fully recover.

thanks Flagator96, yeah I don't like pharmaceuticals, will only take them if I'm desperate, if MRI doesn't show anything then I'll just look into stretches, yoga, acupuncture, more chiropractic, and just try to take my mind off it, currently put some ground Turmeric in my oatmeal in the morning.

 

still not 100% sure whats happened to me, my mind went all over the place trying to figure it out, from stds to prostate infection to b12 deficiency, my GP assures me that its not an infection, it does seem like its a nerve issue given my negative test results and symptoms, and the chiropractor I saw was able to make my symptoms worse or better after adjusting me,   and I've been told by many chiropractors I have a sacrum issue and like in my x ray my L5 doesn't look right, I might go to Malaysia/Kuala Lumpur for 3 months in the summer next year and see a decent chiro there (Malaysia because of cheap accommodation & food + I haven't been there yet) just spend 3 months sorting my spine/posture out, as it takes time to fix spine/nerve issues like mine.

[Bonobojt]

Update: Saw the Neurologist, he basically has diagnosed me with Functional Disorder, told me that I don't have any neurological disease and that it will go away on its own but he can't say when, he said I can do an MRI if I want only to convince me that its not a spinal problem causing me this problem, I done the MRI today on my lower back, he looked at it and called me and said it looks fine but a Radiologist will further examine it, he wants to see me again under the NHS to talk about how to manage my symptoms.

 

today I had a stinging feeling in my penis, with a slight urge to urinate, so I tried to urinate and a little bit came out, then had a bad pain in my penis/genitals, then pain eventually faded away, then the depression came back, sometimes I still think it could be an infection, maybe from a less common STI like mycoplasma genitalium or Trichomoniasis, after all this started after having sex... but my GP tells me infections either get better or get worse and wouldn't give on and off symptoms like mine , for example I don't always have painful urination or stinging sensations, its quite random, some days are worse than others..

[Maestro]

Regarding your occasional discomfort with urination, has the possibility of a kidney stone that moved to the bladder but has not yet been expelled from there been considered and eliminated as the cause?

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[Sheryl]

He has has extensive urologic work-up showing nothing

Thorough checks for STDs, ditto

Now neurologic exam and tests, also nothing

 

If you read his prior threads you will start to get the picture.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/912419-back-in-england-still-have-cough-from-thailand/

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/914079-something-wrong-with-my-tongue-pic/

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/929081-should-i-buy-doxycycline-penisgroin-problem/

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/929081-should-i-buy-doxycycline-penisgroin-problem/

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/936409-havent-recovered-from-massage-yet/

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/947641-haemolytic-strep-found-in-my-urine-test/

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/949873-im-worried-i-might-have-bladder-cancer/

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/944550-why-did-i-get-tinnitus-after-neck-massage/

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/954470-is-it-dangerous-to-have-too-many-x-rays/

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/949674-nhs-rant-uk/

 

He has a long-standing  anxiety disorder . After having sex with a prostitute in Thailand he became convinced something was wrong with him and ever since then has been hyper-focused on sensations in the groin area, and gone from specialist to specialist.  First sure he had STDs, even after he was thoroughly examined and told he did not. Then convinced there was a prostate or other urological problem and persisted in that for a good while  even though only a simple infection was found and treated. Next he lit on the neuorological ides and is likewise having trouble letting go of that even though he has been examined, tested and  nothing found. Along the way, became anxious about damage from the Xrays obtained in the course of allthese work-ups.

 

The "symptoms" he is seeking a medical diagnosis for are just vague sensations in the groin region and he is being hypervigilant regarding every minute sensation that occurs.

 

This is a classic Somatization Disorder  which is a type of anxiety disorder.

 

OP if you focus excessively on any part of the body you will find all manner of "symptoms", these are in fact normal sensations that are usually below the level of awareness. The more you obsess about this the worse it will get. 

 

If you do not believe me then sit down and pick a totally different part of the body and concentrate intently on what you feel there. You will soon start to feel vague discomforts and odd "symptoms", If you then decide this must be medically significant and start fretting about it, you will have duplicated what you have been doing all these months.

 

You need to shift you focus away from thinking there is some dire undiagnosed medical issue and from being hypervigilant to that part of the body and every sensation therein, and you need to get treatment for the anxiety/somatization disorder.  Until you do, things will continue to get worse and you will get more and more anxious.

[Bonobojt]

6 hours ago, Sheryl said:

He has has extensive urologic work-up showing nothing

Thorough checks for STDs, ditto

Now neurologic exam and tests, also nothing

 

If you read his prior threads you will start to get the picture.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/912419-back-in-england-still-have-cough-from-thailand/

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/914079-something-wrong-with-my-tongue-pic/

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/929081-should-i-buy-doxycycline-penisgroin-problem/

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/929081-should-i-buy-doxycycline-penisgroin-problem/

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/936409-havent-recovered-from-massage-yet/

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/947641-haemolytic-strep-found-in-my-urine-test/

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/949873-im-worried-i-might-have-bladder-cancer/

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/944550-why-did-i-get-tinnitus-after-neck-massage/

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/954470-is-it-dangerous-to-have-too-many-x-rays/

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/949674-nhs-rant-uk/

 

He has a long-standing  anxiety disorder . After having sex with a prostitute in Thailand he became convinced something was wrong with him and ever since then has been hyper-focused on sensations in the groin area, and gone from specialist to specialist.  First sure he had STDs, even after he was thoroughly examined and told he did not. Then convinced there was a prostate or other urological problem and persisted in that for a good while  even though only a simple infection was found and treated. Next he lit on the neuorological ides and is likewise having trouble letting go of that even though he has been examined, tested and  nothing found. Along the way, became anxious about damage from the Xrays obtained in the course of allthese work-ups.

 

The "symptoms" he is seeking a medical diagnosis for are just vague sensations in the groin region and he is being hypervigilant regarding every minute sensation that occurs.

 

This is a classic Somatization Disorder  which is a type of anxiety disorder.

 

OP if you focus excessively on any part of the body you will find all manner of "symptoms", these are in fact normal sensations that are usually below the level of awareness. The more you obsess about this the worse it will get. 

 

If you do not believe me then sit down and pick a totally different part of the body and concentrate intently on what you feel there. You will soon start to feel vague discomforts and odd "symptoms", If you then decide this must be medically significant and start fretting about it, you will have duplicated what you have been doing all these months.

 

You need to shift you focus away from thinking there is some dire undiagnosed medical issue and from being hypervigilant to that part of the body and every sensation therein, and you need to get treatment for the anxiety/somatization disorder.  Until you do, things will continue to get worse and you will get more and more anxious.

ok Sheryl, maybe your right, maybe not, but I will take your advice, all I will say is that it seems like you think I'm some innocent young guy that had sex with a Pattaya bar girl and then got worried or anxiety afterwards because of the risks, which then made me feel these symptoms ? don't really want to get into my personal sex life but I've had sex with over 25 prostitutes in my adult life, in Thailand, Germany, Netherlands and UK, I am use to this kind of sex and I don't panic, get anxiety or stress or worry after these encounters, so I never did after this Pattaya sex. I had the sex, then got symptoms, tried to find out whats going on with doctors/tests and nothing seems to come up, the only thing that has come up is when chiropractor's see my x rays and they say I have a Sacrum issue, possible l5 too and a loss of curve in my cervical spine, I also have a thoracic spine issue and a misaligned pelvis (one leg shorter than the other). 

 

I know doctors and chiropractors are not going to agree with each other so I know your not a big fan of chiropractors. I will try to just get on with my life, keep travelling, go to work, eat healthy, avoid thinking or googling my symptoms, and see what happens 

[al007]

20 hours ago, Bonobojt said:

ok Sheryl, maybe your right, maybe not, but I will take your advice, all I will say is that it seems like you think I'm some innocent young guy that had sex with a Pattaya bar girl and then got worried or anxiety afterwards because of the risks, which then made me feel these symptoms ? don't really want to get into my personal sex life but I've had sex with over 25 prostitutes in my adult life, in Thailand, Germany, Netherlands and UK, I am use to this kind of sex and I don't panic, get anxiety or stress or worry after these encounters, so I never did after this Pattaya sex. I had the sex, then got symptoms, tried to find out whats going on with doctors/tests and nothing seems to come up, the only thing that has come up is when chiropractor's see my x rays and they say I have a Sacrum issue, possible l5 too and a loss of curve in my cervical spine, I also have a thoracic spine issue and a misaligned pelvis (one leg shorter than the other). 

 

I know doctors and chiropractors are not going to agree with each other so I know your not a big fan of chiropractors. I will try to just get on with my life, keep travelling, go to work, eat healthy, avoid thinking or googling my symptoms, and see what happens 

 

Chill man, you are driving yourself crazy

 

Yes you have some problems and maybe addictions, like hookers

 

I have a suggestion as you seem to have explored most of the medical routes

 

Go and get some psychological counselling, and try and talk this out with a counsellor on a one to one basis

 

Good luck in any case

Edited December 16, 2016 by al007

[Bonobojt]

8 hours ago, al007 said:

 

Chill man, you are driving yourself crazy

 

Yes you have some problems and maybe addictions, like hookers

 

I have a suggestion as you seem to have explored most of the medical routes

 

Go and get some psychological counselling, and try and talk this out with a counsellor on a one to one basis

 

Good luck in any case

I am chill, but I'm also in pain, painful urination on and off, its horrible what I have, but I'm trying to ignore it and not get stressed. I'm going to Italy on Sunday as I love to travel and don't want this pain to stop me from travelling, lets see how that goes...

 

I was slightly addicted to porn which led to the hookers, but I'm finished with all that now, still watch porn to masturbate sometimes but my libido is low at the moment so not watching a lot of it.

[Bonobojt]

ok serious update,  I have just noticed today that I have small white 'bits' in my urine and it stings or burns after urination today, also I looked into my penis hole or urethra and there are white 'bits' in my urethra after urinating, I took a pic to show my GP or a sexual health nurse, I don't think  I can upload that kind of image on here.

 

is this discharge ? a sign of infection ? my discomfort/pain all started in end of June after sex but this is the first time I've noticed or experienced these white bits in my urethra and urine

[Sheryl]

Impossible to say what (if anything) it is as rather had to understand what you mean by "bits". However  a  urine culture and also culture from a urethral swab would help determine. Both of these can be done by GP or at an STD clinic.

 

 

[al007]

8 hours ago, Bonobojt said:

ok serious update,  I have just noticed today that I have small white 'bits' in my urine and it stings or burns after urination today, also I looked into my penis hole or urethra and there are white 'bits' in my urethra after urinating, I took a pic to show my GP or a sexual health nurse, I don't think  I can upload that kind of image on here.

 

is this discharge ? a sign of infection ? my discomfort/pain all started in end of June after sex but this is the first time I've noticed or experienced these white bits in my urethra and urine

 

Bonobojt

 

I have read many many of your posts sympathetically, you are 25 and a young man

 

Yes you have problems mainly in the head I suspect

 

You need to find a counsellor and Talk all this out there

 

You are in The Uk and I believe you should NOT be using Thai visa to air all your perceived problems

 

Talk to your own relatives and grow up, yes tough love

 

[Bonobojt]

3 hours ago, Sheryl said:

Impossible to say what (if anything) it is as rather had to understand what you mean by "bits". However  a  urine culture and also culture from a urethral swab would help determine. Both of these can be done by GP or at an STD clinic.

 

 

by bits I mean there was particles of something in my urine, kind of 'snow globe' looking if I peed in a jar and shook it

 

is there any tests I can do for fungal or parasite infections in the urethra or bladder area ? I mean will urine or urethra tests only test for bacteria and not fungus like Candida or parasites ? 

 

judging from what I've read on having white particles in my urine it can mean bacteria infection, fungal (candida), parasites, kidney stones, can also be a sign of bladder cancer, since this started 1 - 2 days after sex I guess its either bacteria or fungal maybe 

[Bonobojt]

2 hours ago, al007 said:

 

Bonobojt

 

I have read many many of your posts sympathetically, you are 25 and a young man

 

Yes you have problems mainly in the head I suspect

 

You need to find a counsellor and Talk all this out there

 

You are in The Uk and I believe you should NOT be using Thai visa to air all your perceived problems

 

Talk to your own relatives and grow up, yes tough love

 

sadly I can't delete my older posts,which I admit some were a mistake, out of panic and not having anyone else to talk to about it, basically I just a sad pathetic 25 year old guy that is having the worst time , trying to solve whats going on, and I thought I did, I thought it must be nerve issue, but having burning stinging sensations in penis and now this white bits in my urethra and urine when urinating, well now its looking like a bacteria or fungal infection, so frustrating, sorry if my posts are bothering you, I have been to Thailand 5 times, I enjoy this website and love Thailand, that's why I use it, But please, this is not all in my head, my parents know, but if you know a way to delete posts please let me know

[Patsycat]

Doctor Google can scare the <deleted> out of you!!

[scubascuba3]

Get tested and let us know if you are dreaming these things up or not, would be interesting to know.

[chubby]

neurontin

aka gabapentin

 

pregabalin  aka  lyrica 

 

plenty side effects, but not the opiod based type

[soalbundy]

The lowest point in your life, or the highest, depending on which way you look at it is when you see them reading you the last rites. 

[Bonobojt]

update: went to the sexual health clinic today, the nurse was really good, took a urethra swab and told me to pee in a cup, looked at them both under a microscope, said she couldn't find anything and said to me that with the amount of symptoms I'm having she thinks I most likely have Prostatitis, she even gave me a prostate exam, told me that there could be an infection still and gave me a 4 week supply of a antibiotic called CIPROFLOXACIN.

 

she said there's most likely a lot of Inflammation in my pelvic region causing me my symptoms, causing muscles and my pelvic floor muscles to tighten up,  I need to relax and not think about it too much, massage my perineum area, reduce the inflammation etc.. 

Edited December 28, 2016 by Bonobojt

[chubby]

14 hours ago, Bonobojt said:

update: went to the sexual health clinic today, the nurse was really good, took a urethra swab and told me to pee in a cup, looked at them both under a microscope, said she couldn't find anything and said to me that with the amount of symptoms I'm having she thinks I most likely have Prostatitis, she even gave me a prostate exam, told me that there could be an infection still and gave me a 4 week supply of a antibiotic called CIPROFLOXACIN.

 

she said there's most likely a lot of Inflammation in my pelvic region causing me my symptoms, causing muscles and my pelvic floor muscles to tighten up,  I need to relax and not think about it too much, massage my perineum area, reduce the inflammation etc.. 

 

unfortunately, even in the USA, this is a common 1st line of possible Tx,  you take 1 month of antibiotics, as the prostate grows slow. but, my experience, was it was more of a  try this and it might work, than  a  strong diagnosis .; massage and inflammation   are usually  going to do opposite  things,   massage  can irritate inflammation , unless its gentle , whereby it may sort of desensitized an area  or normalize  the feedback pain loops ...

 

Cipro, has it's share of side effects, but worth a try.  May try so yogurt with active cultures, to restore,  your   good bacteria of gut,   during or afterwards .. 

[xylophone]

15 hours ago, Bonobojt said:

update: went to the sexual health clinic today, the nurse was really good, took a urethra swab and told me to pee in a cup, looked at them both under a microscope, said she couldn't find anything and said to me that with the amount of symptoms I'm having she thinks I most likely have Prostatitis, she even gave me a prostate exam, told me that there could be an infection still and gave me a 4 week supply of a antibiotic called CIPROFLOXACIN.

 

she said there's most likely a lot of Inflammation in my pelvic region causing me my symptoms, causing muscles and my pelvic floor muscles to tighten up,  I need to relax and not think about it too much, massage my perineum area, reduce the inflammation etc.. 

 

I don't want to add yet another "potential cause" for your problems, however if you look on ThaiVisa you will see there is a thread regarding prostatitis, or at least reference to it in many threads and you may get some useful information from that.

 

If indeed you do have bacterial prostatitis, then ciprofloxacin is one antibiotic that can work and there are a couple of others also. However if you have non-bacterial prostatitis then there's not a lot that can be done because the cause of it is unclear.

 

The best way to detect this is by seeing a doctor who will massage the prostate (gently) and then collect a sample for analysis. This will show up any bacteria, but won't help with the nonbacterial prostatitis.

 

If you go down this avenue at least you will be able to determine one possible cause of your discomfort.

[Bonobojt]

3 hours ago, chubby said:

 

unfortunately, even in the USA, this is a common 1st line of possible Tx,  you take 1 month of antibiotics, as the prostate grows slow. but, my experience, was it was more of a  try this and it might work, than  a  strong diagnosis .; massage and inflammation   are usually  going to do opposite  things,   massage  can irritate inflammation , unless its gentle , whereby it may sort of desensitized an area  or normalize  the feedback pain loops ...

 

Cipro, has it's share of side effects, but worth a try.  May try so yogurt with active cultures, to restore,  your   good bacteria of gut,   during or afterwards .. 

yeah it felt more like a try this and see if it helps approach, but I'm willing to try the antibiotic, you never know, it could help, yeah I brought some fermented sauerkraut and prebiotics for getting my good bacteria back, also will go on a anti inflammatory diet, and do pelvic stretches and exercise   

[Bonobojt]

2 hours ago, xylophone said:

 

I don't want to add yet another "potential cause" for your problems, however if you look on ThaiVisa you will see there is a thread regarding prostatitis, or at least reference to it in many threads and you may get some useful information from that.

 

If indeed you do have bacterial prostatitis, then ciprofloxacin is one antibiotic that can work and there are a couple of others also. However if you have non-bacterial prostatitis then there's not a lot that can be done because the cause of it is unclear.

 

The best way to detect this is by seeing a doctor who will massage the prostate (gently) and then collect a sample for analysis. This will show up any bacteria, but won't help with the nonbacterial prostatitis.

 

If you go down this avenue at least you will be able to determine one possible cause of your discomfort.

thanks, I might try and see a Urologist about it yes, whether he will do the prostate massage I don't know, you get good doctors and you get bad ones...

this started after sex with a Pattaya bargirl so its very likely it could be bacterial, also around when it first started my semen was very yellow, but I was on a drug that made my urine orange at the time so thought a side effect from that, but the Urologist didn't think so and wanted to test my semen but we never got round to doing it. 

 

[puukao]

Forget suicide!!!!! Try eastern medicine, meditation to strengthen the mind, and try to smile and laugh.

Life is hard for all of us. Just in different ways

If you ride a bike, you are strong.

Stay strong but not the Armstrong kind. 5555

If you still have pain at 85 we will talk some more.

What kind of bike and components? Pictures of bike?

Always good to talk about riding


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