webfact Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Election to be put off until 2018 amid legal delay: NLA By THE NATION Somjet Politicians urge junta to stick to ‘road map to democracy’ as postponement affects poll originally set for this year BANGKOK: -- NATIONAL Legislative Assembly (NLA) members have said they expect the next general election to take place early in 2018, rather than late this year, due to the time-consuming legislative process. The observation could indicate another potential change in the junta’s so-called “road map to democracy”. NLA member General Somjet Boonthanom said the designated timeline had not been distorted even though the election would happen later than expected. “Strictly following the road map’s procedure, it would take around 15 months for us to consider organic laws essential to the election,” he said. “The election should be held around March to April next year.” Full story: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30303275 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-01-02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 roadmap to democracy. siiiiigh. But if the so called elected officials don't do what the military wants, they will be overthrown. That is not a democracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) This is all to be expected, have you ever asked a Thai to show you where something is on a map? Perhaps they should download an app to get the GPS directions to democracy. Edited January 2, 2017 by canuckamuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Well, now at least the Thai people know elections are just a dream. But, is this an official announcement, or just another official mouthing off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Here we go again, soon to be followed by 'Well, certainly by mid 2018...' Still, if turd sandwiches are the the public's diet of choice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 ah 'legal delay' say no more, nudge, nudge, wink, wink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, ChrisY1 said: Well, now at least the Thai people know elections are just a dream. But, is this an official announcement, or just another official mouthing off? Testing the water? Why would they make any moves if they don't have to given they are comfortable where they are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I'm shocked that the election will be delayed!!!! Shocked I tell you. What excuse will they use in the approach to 2018 I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 13 minutes ago, baboon said: Here we go again, soon to be followed by 'Well, certainly by mid 2018...' Still, if turd sandwiches are the the public's diet of choice... Choice hasn't existed in Thai politics since Suthep and his fascist goons put a stop to it on Sunday, 2 February 2014 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 First delay to late 2016...no wait, we can't do it before the end of 2017....no wait, we now need to wait to 2018. See a trend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChakaKhan Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 The Hustlers become the Hustled..cycle of life in Asia And you wonder why thais dont seem to trust anyone as it seems the race for the biggest bowl of rice goes on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohy Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 35 minutes ago, gk10002000 said: That is not a democracy NO it isn't but what we have now begins with D! I think if you say it out loud panties get twisted here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 28 minutes ago, JAG said: Choice hasn't existed in Thai politics since Suthep and his fascist goons put a stop to it on Sunday, 2 February 2014 . You mean when the people rose to oppose the return of a convicted criminal. A situation caused only by the arrogance of said person and the PTP not ruling for the people but to bring their leader home and drop all the criminal cases that are still waiting for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, robblok said: You mean when the people rose to oppose the return of a convicted criminal. A situation caused only by the arrogance of said person and the PTP not ruling for the people but to bring their leader home and drop all the criminal cases that are still waiting for him. Naa he didn't mean that he meant people who demoed and stopped a legal election taking place so the Army could take over but never mind they have given themselves immunity Edited January 2, 2017 by LannaGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 13 minutes ago, robblok said: You mean when the people rose to oppose the return of a convicted criminal. A situation caused only by the arrogance of said person and the PTP not ruling for the people but to bring their leader home and drop all the criminal cases that are still waiting for him. I can agree with you that the amnesty bill was unpopular and the voices of the people were heard on the street and resulted in the bill being aborted. Why was a coup needed when the people got what they were protesting and went back home satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, LannaGuy said: Naa he didn't mean that he meant people who demoed and stopped a legal election taking place so the Army could take over but never mind they have given themselves immunity Ah seems we see this event differently, funny that even the PTP publicly admitted that they should never have had included Thaksin in the amnesty and that that was what got this all started. (oh just having an election does not make the things you do legal.. its just a farce) Anyway I hope that the election is not delayed again its time to see something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, robblok said: You mean when the people rose to oppose the return of a convicted criminal. A situation caused only by the arrogance of said person and the PTP not ruling for the people but to bring their leader home and drop all the criminal cases that are still waiting for him. They get govt they deserve imo, i guarantee you will see NOTHING new Edited January 2, 2017 by kannot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: I can agree with you that the amnesty bill was unpopular and the voices of the people were heard on the street and resulted in the bill being aborted. Why was a coup needed when the people got what they were protesting and went back home satisfied. The thing was the bill could have been revived and passed through without any checks that is why the people never went back. It was explained quite clearly in the newspapers at the time. They should never have done it and the way they did it sneaky and all did not instill faith that they would not revive it again. They brought it down on themselves, had they ruled for the people and not Thaksin the army would never have had to step in. They could have tried.. but it would have been opposed widely now it was not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, robblok said: Ah seems we see this event differently, funny that even the PTP publicly admitted that they should never have had included Thaksin in the amnesty and that that was what got this all started. (oh just having an election does not make the things you do legal.. its just a farce) Anyway I hope that the election is not delayed again its time to see something new. What was illegal about the amnesty bill? It was put forward, voted down. Was it illegal to put it forward? I thought pretty much everyone had already acknowledged that the coup was planned in advance. Perhaps the amnesty bill gave them a good starting point, but from reading opinion, wikileaks etc from previous scenarios i thought nearly everyone was aware that the army needed to be in charge for the succession and one way or another it would of been engineered that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Elections delayed to....2018...2019...2020....Never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandemara Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 13 minutes ago, robblok said: They brought it down on themselves, had they ruled for the people and not Thaksin the army would never have had to step in. The major fallacy of your logic, Robblok, is the extraordinary assumption that the military authorities "had" to step in at any time. It's the type of flabby thinking that enables destruction of democracy at any time in any society. Military organisations are designed to protect a society from external attack. Their role is to preserve a society - no matter what its faults are - in the condition chosen by the majority through free and fair elections. Nor do I understand the acrobatic "logic" required for a military organisation to destroy an elected government and then attack those who oppose its will as "enemies of the State". Thailand is not my State, but being a spectator is a thrill-a-minute ride, even if there appears to be too many downhill swoops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 20 minutes ago, robblok said: The thing was the bill could have been revived and passed through without any checks that is why the people never went back. It was explained quite clearly in the newspapers at the time. They should never have done it and the way they did it sneaky and all did not instill faith that they would not revive it again. They brought it down on themselves, had they ruled for the people and not Thaksin the army would never have had to step in. They could have tried.. but it would have been opposed widely now it was not. Smutcakes said it well that the lower house passing of the bill is a legal privilege of the democracy process. The process need the upper house approval and in that instance, the bill was not even considered. Yes the bill can still be introduced by the upper house within 180 days and is totally legal and will be rejected again by the appointed senators. So the question for you is that what PT did was legal, why the illegal coup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 30 minutes ago, smutcakes said: What was illegal about the amnesty bill? It was put forward, voted down. Was it illegal to put it forward? I thought pretty much everyone had already acknowledged that the coup was planned in advance. Perhaps the amnesty bill gave them a good starting point, but from reading opinion, wikileaks etc from previous scenarios i thought nearly everyone was aware that the army needed to be in charge for the succession and one way or another it would of been engineered that way. Oh dear.. yes sure the army planned it all.. they planned on the arrogance of Thaksin to give them a perfect opportunity. They are master planners so good.. and then rule so bad.. does not computer.. But sure it feels better for red aligned people to think this way.. better then to admit the amnesty was what caused this all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, robblok said: Oh dear.. yes sure the army planned it all.. they planned on the arrogance of Thaksin to give them a perfect opportunity. They are master planners so good.. and then rule so bad.. does not computer.. But sure it feels better for red aligned people to think this way.. better then to admit the amnesty was what caused this all. So what caused the 19 or so other coups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLouisBlues Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I've always assumed the junta took power to stage manage a certain event and its consequences, so there would never be another election until - as we now know - October 2017 is well out of the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I don't think that this is exactly a bad thing ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) I don't think that this is exactly a bad thing ... ThaiVisa is so slow today that I'm surprised anything posted ............................ Edited January 2, 2017 by JAS21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 2 hours ago, webfact said: NATIONAL Legislative Assembly (NLA) members have said they expect the next general election to take place early in 2018, rather than late this year, due to the time-consuming legislative process. Time-consuming? With all those 186-0 votes, it certainly does take a looooooooong time Morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 NO! Really? How did that come about? I am soooo surprised! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Record Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Still the same arguments going on...... lol. The Army stepped in because they where ordered to step in, same as any delay in Elections it's an order, do you really think that Prayuth one day woke up and decided he'd order troops on the street, make himself prime minister and put the spotlight on him and his cronies ? He and the Junta are just doing what they are told by the people who really run Thailand, and Prayuth has no choice but to do what he's told, otherwise he might just be asked where he got his fabulous wealth from whilst being a soldier, of course those that run the country know already, and Prayuth knows they know, so instead or enjoying his retirement with his massive wealth, he has to do favours for his masters. The Elite who run Thailand allow large scale corruption among the Police and Army Generals for a very good reason, in times of need they call in favours, and no General worth his salt will want to try to explain how he became a USD Multi Millionaire whilst working for the government, so they have got the generals over a barrel, and they do what they are told, or else the masters will find a General who WILL do as they are told. None of these super rich Generals will risk falling out of favour, they all have too much to lose. They are puppets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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