5 hours ago, Shawn0000 said:

I don't come from a town, I grew up on a country estate in the Cotswalds.  

 

Confirmation complete :)

2 minutes ago, maxpower said:

 

Confirmation complete :)

 

Comfirmation of what?  You really are quite the saddo, you have basically been stalking me on here accusing me of being someone else with a new name, quite peculiar behaviour, did you dream of being a detective but were too thick?

Many have now voted with their feet and holiday elsewhere ..So some nom nah thais

13 hours ago, Shawn0000 said:

hahahhahahhahahahha  I am English you nutter!

 

There have always been rules regarding UK immigration, but I was talking about tourist visa's ...

How ironic it is of you to accuse Thai's of not having good English comprehension 

Another disciple of the greengrocer's apostrophe

On 1/14/2017 at 5:04 AM, Shawn0000 said:

 

Ok, so your problem is not the official dual pricing but actually your ignorance of the barter system leaving you unable to get a good price in a shop, right?  Its not that hard, they say a price, you say a lower one, they may then try somewhere in the middle and you can do the same, got it?

The "barter" system. Surely you mean the "bargaining" or "haggling" system. Barter is a means of exchange that does not involve money eg. I'll trade your pig for three hens

5 hours ago, SaintLouisBlues said:

The "barter" system. Surely you mean the "bargaining" or "haggling" system. Barter is a means of exchange that does not involve money eg. I'll trade your pig for three hens

 

Thank you so much, and also for pointing out the apostrophe error, worthy and valuable posts indeed, well done chap.

14 minutes ago, Shawn0000 said:

Thank you so much, and also for pointing out the apostrophe error, worthy and valuable posts indeed, well done chap.

You're most welcome. At least you don't have to worry about the apostrophe when you're pottering about in written Thai

14 hours ago, LolaS said:

move from thailand than, nobody is forcing you to advance thai economy

....whenever i feel like, will do that...and who is forcing YOU to respond here in such manner ? surely you completely missed the point, but hey go on if you feel so.(My Post was refering to Tax payers compared with Retirees .)

 

BTW, soon i hang out at some other beautyful places , like Malaga , Costa del Sol ,Spain or Algarve in Portugal and you know why ?

Because i have free choice , but nonetheless im commenting here whats wrong or could be done more conviniently as long im feeling so.

 

And whats your alternative ?

Swallow the frog every day and enjoy the usual ANTI FALANG RIP OFF MENTALITY?  And keep on smiling ???

Thailand is struggling and everybody knows.

Now we cant speak out clearly, because of loosing face bla bla.

I DONT GIVE A DAMN S**T about that 3. World rules and based on RACIALISM. 

 

 

when we pay for a haircut it's way too cheap. the Thai Baht is ****extremely**** undervalued.  that ain't racism... it's called a central bank that holds too many US Treasury bonds and allowing Thai nationals to use nominees, without even for the asking, by merely putting their wealth into off shore accounts.  Trump aims to change that... and FATCA.. and the Thai government (to pay for rising Thai health care scheme expenses).

so be careful what you wish for.... and if you live on a US dollar based pension... i.e. USA Social Security checks..... you better be hedged big time..... or else.

5 hours ago, maewang99 said:

the Thai Baht is ****extremely**** undervalued.

 

Pure stuff, tosh and nonsense.  The Baht is overvalued.  In fact, it's one of the most overvalued currencies in the world - just behind Brazil and Pakistan.  Check out the Economist burger, GDP-adjusted index.

 

http://www.economist.com/content/big-mac-index

On 1/13/2017 at 4:37 AM, Shawn0000 said:

 

Except this is not racism, Asians also get charged the foreigner rate.  Is it also racism  in your opinion that is the motivation behind Switzerlands and Japans dual pricing offering lower rates for tourists?

Im sorry, I think that you don't understand what racism is.  Yes even if they overcharge other asians that is still dual pricing and racist practice.  Also most Thais couldn't tell a Korean or a Japanese person from a Thai. So yes, they often just let them fly under the radar.  Regardless charging rates for locals and non locals for services or goods is racist. 

Racism is discrimination based on color, race, ethnicity, nationality, culture and religion. 

On 21/01/2017 at 6:06 PM, Shawn0000 said:

 

Text book English is not crap, it makes it understandable, unlike your infantile appreciation of our language, it is you're by the way, not your, you couldn't even get the first word right and I am not going to waste my time pointing out the 10O odd other errors, quite pathetic really.

 

You assume that they are giving free three months tourist visas because there are less tourists when the reality is a year on year increase in numbers, you are just making things up.

 

I am aware that lending someone in the UK money is legal, but you did it in Thailand but were so arrogant to assume you could do the same here and then blindly accuse the police, who only upheld the law, of corruption, you are a disgrace to England.

 

You are a nutter, I do not take heed to your advice, and what exactly do you think you are going to do about that?  Hahahaha

 

I know you are English, low class, barely educated and thick.  You read my words and assume I must be foreign, incredible, no I just went to school, some English people do actually know how to spell and punctuate, it is just your ilk who fail at these most simplistic of tasks.

 

You want to try me, ok, meet me at the Petch Rung Ruang gym any evening, you can get in the ring with me if you still think that is a sensible decision after seeing me.

 

I don't come from a town, I grew up on a country estate in the Cotswalds.  Now over to you, tell me my name, age, mothers name etc etc, oh yeah, you have no idea who I am, what on earth were you thinking there, that you were someone with some sort of connections?  Don't make me laugh!  You couldn't run a check on yourself!  I am no criminal by the way but neither am I a grass, unlike you you shameful worm.

 

HaHaHaHaHaHa >5555555 is a stupid Thai thing only so your bang to rights 6666666 thats another Thai thing

 

Cotswalds picked the wrong place there my mate. Name the coffee shop on left near end when driving down the big big hill in Broadway?

 

Cotswald estate my rear end. bangkok yellow quarter you mean

 

Textbook English is used by those who went to uni in UK and from from overseas and you are full of it just go and have a look at your posts

 

In my time I learned one thing the bigger you claim you are the harder you fall

 

Petch Rung Ruang gym has been around for donkeys years called them today no shawn or big man

 

You are full of daddies thai money never done a days work in your life and on here to wind up the Farangs

 

The words scumbag do you know what it means

 

 

Now go away and play on a motorway, the one in the Cotswold if you like what is it called?

 

I don't come from a town, I grew up on a country estate in the Cotswalds! do they have a place called Cotswalds in thailand, back home they do and it has lots of small towns and villages that's what makes up the region not country estates

 

outed a thai bum, poss Pattaya but not English

others now think the same

 

6666666666666666666 end in a thai style for a thai bum

 

1 hour ago, zeichen said:

Im sorry, I think that you don't understand what racism is.  Yes even if they overcharge other asians that is still dual pricing and racist practice.  Also most Thais couldn't tell a Korean or a Japanese person from a Thai. So yes, they often just let them fly under the radar.  Regardless charging rates for locals and non locals for services or goods is racist. 

Racism is discrimination based on color, race, ethnicity, nationality, culture and religion. 

 

I understand what racism is, and it would be considered racism to discriminate against a particular nationality, but to charge more for all nationalities other than Thai is not, sorry but you are plain wrong on this one.

As for your "also" comment, a ticket collector mistaking a Korean for a Thai does not make it racist either, it's just an error.

On 1/20/2017 at 7:38 PM, Shawn0000 said:

 

Have you ever seen the application for a Thai to get a UK tourist visa?  They want bank statements, house registration book, parents I.D's, employment contract, and a host of other documents, and that is just for a holiday!  In contrast, a UK citizen gets a visa on arrival without any questions asked.  The form you reference in Thailand has options to give social media I.D's, and bank accounts, but it clearly states that this is optional, and it is only for long term stays anyway, all the documents Thai's are asked for by the UK are compulsory even for a weekend break.  And by the way, your claim that "Most Thais who sod of from this godforsaken place get British citizenship very easy in just a few years" is not based on any fact, currently the rejection rate for Thai's seeking UK residency is 97%, only 3% are accepted just for the initial residency, then they have to start the hard work, the English test, the Britishness test and so on.  As for British people seeking Thai citizenship, hardly anyone even applies, there are many more places than applicants every year and most people who apply are accepted, so I have no idea where you are coming from with that one either, well to be honest I do, from nowhere.  The application is nowhere near as difficult, the equivalent of the UK required B1 level English test, but for Thai citizenship, is being able to recite the national anthem!  

 

And I am not making it up regarding locals getting things cheaper in my region of the UK, if I want to hire a boat for instance, they will give it to me for half a day for the hourly rate, it's happened to me several times.  And there are official government discounts only for locals, much like the Thai prices we see at government attractions, that is a fact, there is really no difference.  You may see it as a surcharge on foreigners and feel discriminated against, but really it is a locals discount and is not discrimination at all, but a subsidy.

 

In the UK about 40% of people pay some income tax whereas in Thailand its 3.5%. In Thailand the 60,000 highest earners pay 50% all income tax, in the UK the highest earning 30,000 people pay 11% of the income tax.  In the UK income tax equates to 23% of all tax revenue, in Thailand it is less than 2%. But of course everyone pays tax, just not income tax, but there is quite a difference indeed between our economies.

 

Your final statement is like much of the rest you wrote, of limited knowledge. You clearly do not know the UK if you think it is all worn out and broken, perhaps you have been there and your finances limited you to some less affluent areas, but I can assure you the rich are not living in a broken neighborhood, they are back living in the country estates we once managed to tax them out of.  What we have seen happen, and this has been happening gradually for the past 150 years, is an increasing divide between the rich and poor, albeit with a short return to sanity in the 60's.  There are extremely deprived areas, within the bottom 10 in the EU and then there are extremely affluent areas, in the top 10 in the EU, actually the very top place.  The UK is so far the only country in the EU to have a region in both the top ten and bottom ten regions with regard to wealth, we do share something with Thailand in this respect, utterly hopeless levels of wealth disparity.

 

How about when they try it on a ferang with DL/WP, PR or citizenship and where is the British equivalent asked for earlier that charges Thai spouses 2,3,4x their partners entrance fee anywhere in uk?

7 minutes ago, evadgib said:

 

How about when they try it on a ferang with DL/WP, PR or citizenship and where is the British equivalent asked for earlier that charges Thai spouses 2,3,4x their partners entrance fee anywhere in uk?

 

I don't know what the first bit of your sentence is supposed to mean, no idea, sorry.

 

But there is no exact equivalent to charging non citizens more than citizens, but so what?  You think everything should be equivalent?  It is not, as we have already been demonstrating, the falang can come to Thailand without questions asked, the Thai has to go through a process harder than gaining Thai citizenship just to go on holiday, you are just going to have to lump it with your little entrance fee price, it is hardly a lot of money anyway, does it not make you embarrassed to piss and moan about it?  It is costing me hundreds of pounds just to make the application for my wife's tourist visa for the UK and you are here moaning about paying 200 baht to go to the zoo, really?  Get a life!

On 1/21/2017 at 6:06 PM, Shawn0000 said:

I grew up on a country estate in the Cotswalds. 

 

23 hours ago, maxpower said:

 

Confirmation complete :)

 

23 hours ago, Shawn0000 said:

 

Comfirmation of what?  You really are quite the saddo, you have basically been stalking me on here accusing me of being someone else with a new name, quite peculiar behaviour, did you dream of being a detective but were too thick?

 

I suspect he is pointing out your misspelling of Cotswolds.

9 minutes ago, chickenslegs said:

 

 

 

I suspect he is pointing out your misspelling of Cotswolds.

 

Oh, that's how I spell it, thanks, a bit old fashioned perhaps.

http://www.cotswalds.info/

1 hour ago, Shawn0000 said:

 

I don't know what the first bit of your sentence is supposed to mean, no idea, sorry.

 

But there is no exact equivalent to charging non citizens more than citizens, but so what?  You think everything should be equivalent?  It is not, as we have already been demonstrating, the falang can come to Thailand without questions asked, the Thai has to go through a process harder than gaining Thai citizenship just to go on holiday, you are just going to have to lump it with your little entrance fee price, it is hardly a lot of money anyway, does it not make you embarrassed to piss and moan about it?  It is costing me hundreds of pounds just to make the application for my wife's tourist visa for the UK and you are here moaning about paying 200 baht to go to the zoo, really?  Get a life!

 

Again you choose to attack the poster and do so without a shread of wit or humour. I readily admit that I have tweeked your tail but did so in the hope that a personality might emerge but as yet there isn't one. Posting in such circumstances is fun in one direction but like running a jardine past old Esox in the other (Cotswolds? Work it out!)

 

My wife had a visa no problem last year.

 

Stick me on your Iggy list please Bagpuss; you're far too entertaining to go on mine...

Their logic argument falls apart when they charge a millionaire Thai person 20 Baht to drive through a national park and the non-Asian foreigner 500 baht to drive the same road.   A similar thing  happened to my friend yesterday up north on his way to his year-round  Thai apartment.  He was driving a Honda and the Thai was on a brand new BMW that costs five times more . I think is is fine that governments  collect more money from people who have more money, like charging highway taxes on miles driven or vehicle taxes based on vehicle value.  Charging for skin color is pure disease.

Dual prices suit me,it gives me an excuse not to enter all those Parks, Crumbly Old Temples,Historical Sites ,or any other place I may die from Boredom or Heat Stroke.I rejoice Leo is priced for One and all.[emoji481][emoji383]


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On 1/21/2017 at 11:26 PM, Shawn0000 said:

 

Comfirmation of what?  You really are quite the saddo, you have basically been stalking me on here accusing me of being someone else with a new name, quite peculiar behaviour, did you dream of being a detective but were too thick?

I think you have lost the plot. Show me the post where I accuse you of being someone else with a new name. 

On 1/13/2017 at 8:46 PM, sinbin said:

Generalisation  and racist comments about Thais is against TV rules when it clearly is trueful? This is what Thai schools teach the children.

 

Edit: Can you imagine the effect this will have on a Luk Krung child of Afro stock? Disgraceful. Thais should hang their heads in shame.

 

 

That's awful.

 

 

2 hours ago, maxpower said:

I think you have lost the plot. Show me the post where I accuse you of being someone else with a new name. 

 

Was that not you saying "what was your username before you were banned"?

12 minutes ago, Shawn0000 said:

 

Was that not you saying "what was your username before you were banned"?

 

No !

Then I am sorry for the mix up.

On 1/22/2017 at 4:48 AM, Shawn0000 said:

 

I understand what racism is, and it would be considered racism to discriminate against a particular nationality, but to charge more for all nationalities other than Thai is not, sorry but you are plain wrong on this one.

As for your "also" comment, a ticket collector mistaking a Korean for a Thai does not make it racist either, it's just an error.

For state parks and things that get governmental funding makes sense as locals pay taxes. But we are not talking about that. A hotel that charges customers more because they are not Thai is a racist practice.  If you cannot see that, then you don't understand racism.

 

22 minutes ago, zeichen said:

For state parks and things that get governmental funding makes sense as locals pay taxes. But we are not talking about that. A hotel that charges customers more because they are not Thai is a racist practice.  If you cannot see that, then you don't understand racism.

 

 

We are talking about all of it actually, read the posts, both these two quite different issues are being discussed equally.  

 

When I book a hotel for work I am often given a discount as they believe I may become a regular customer, it makes sense to them to give a better price than is on the board, it is just business sense. There would be no point in them offering a foreign tourist the same discount as it is unlikely they will come back soon.  The same goes for offering local people a discount in Thailand, they are hoping they will be back every holiday.  You take it as the foreigner being charged more rather than the Thai being offered a discount, that is just how you imagine it to be. Show me a case when a foreigner is charged more than the displayed rate and I will agree with you that that is racism.

On 1/23/2017 at 1:21 AM, Shawn0000 said:

 

We are talking about all of it actually, read the posts, both these two quite different issues are being discussed equally.  

 

When I book a hotel for work I am often given a discount as they believe I may become a regular customer, it makes sense to them to give a better price than is on the board, it is just business sense. There would be no point in them offering a foreign tourist the same discount as it is unlikely they will come back soon.  The same goes for offering local people a discount in Thailand, they are hoping they will be back every holiday.  You take it as the foreigner being charged more rather than the Thai being offered a discount, that is just how you imagine it to be. Show me a case when a foreigner is charged more than the displayed rate and I will agree with you that that is racism.

actually, I have had my wife who is Thai book a hotel for me in bkk and when I got there they charged me more because I wasn't thai.

 

The issue with local vs tourist is stupid as those that live here are not tourist. I pay local taxes and still get charged higher rates for things from time to time.  To me it is racist and criminal.  Even if I show my local license, work permit, etc. Sometimes they still demand the foreign price. Once at a temple I was with all my inlaws to pay respect to grandma and they actually tried to charge me for entrance. Even after dad explained that he was with the family and we are there to pray, they required 50baht. I call that blatant racism.

 

There are several hotels in bkk that have the price in Thai and the price in english are different.

 

Look at the OP, the article wasn't talking about national parks. It was talking about private businesses.yes some posters including yourself have derided the OP to get on a soap box and troll, but the spirit of the discussion was about being charged more because you look different not because you are a local vs. a tourist.

6 minutes ago, zeichen said:

actually, I have had my wife who is Thai book a hotel for me in bkk and when I got there they charged me more because I wasn't thai.

 

The issue with local vs tourist is stupid as those that live here are not tourist. I pay local taxes and still get charged higher rates for things from time to time.  To me it is racist and criminal.  Even if I show my local license, work permit, etc. Sometimes they still demand the foreign price. Once at a temple I was with all my inlaws to pay respect to grandma and they actually tried to charge me for entrance. Even after dad explained that he was with the family and we are there to pray, they required 50baht. I call that blatant racism.

 

There are several hotels in bkk that have the price in Thai and the price in english are different.

 

Look at the OP, the article wasn't talking about national parks. It was talking about private businesses.yes some posters including yourself have derided the OP to get on a soap box and troll, but the spirit of the discussion was about being charged more because you look different not because you are a local vs. a tourist.

 

I agree that foreign national payers of Thai tax should pay the Thai rate, that would be fair.  I do not believe that is racism though, nor criminal, just a bit thoughtless.

 

As for your grandma quip, you were paying to visit a temple?  Funny lot your family follow!  Have you considered changing monk?

 

Never seen dual pricing at a hotel in Bangkok, a picture would help me believe you.

 

A quote from the OP, which you clearly didn't bother to read.

 

There are two types of dual pricing: interpersonal and institutional.

Institutional dual pricing is the practice of an institution, such as a museum, attraction or national park, having clearly stated policies for charge different groups of people different prices.

Places like the Grand Palace, for example, charge foreigners the exorbitant sum of THB500, while Thais are charged the somewhat smaller sum of, well, absolutely nothing.

Interpersonal dual pricing is when an independent seller charges different buyers different prices for the same item and it happens on a case-by-case basis.

This one is much more insidious since it feels, well, personal.

 

On 1/23/2017 at 2:08 AM, Shawn0000 said:

 

I agree that foreign national payers of Thai tax should pay the Thai rate, that would be fair.  I do not believe that is racism though, nor criminal, just a bit thoughtless.

 

As for your grandma quip, you were paying to visit a temple?  Funny lot your family follow!  Have you considered changing monk?

 

Never seen dual pricing at a hotel in Bangkok, a picture would help me believe you.

 

Well, it is clear that you are a narrow minded and rude person by nature.

 

I tell a story from my real life and you call it a quip. A quip is a lie or jest. Calling someone a liar is rude. Judging my family is also rude. We went to a major temple where tourists are often charged. But we were there to pray. The temple tried to charge the foreigner not my family. Go criticize someone else family and religion.

 

You also need me to show you a picture to prove my statement.

 

Conversation is now over. Good luck trolling someone else. I wonder if it is just online or in real life you are this offensive. I have never had someone tell me to show them a picture to prove my perspective.  Doubting someone for no reason really shows that you are a misanthrope.