Water heater breaker keeps switching off

[happydays]

Hi all,

 

I know next to nothing about electrics so go easy on me.

 

My kitchen sink has a water heater underneath with it's own breaker switch. The breaker switch regularly switches off when I'm washing up. Why is this & what should I do about it?

 

Thanks

[bikerlou47]

The breaker is probably worn.. replace it.

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[wayned]

Yes, it could be a defective breaker, but maybe, just maybe, the breaker is doing its job and protecting the heater and possibly the user from going up in smoke!  What I would do is put a meter with a current clamp on the wire to the heater and see exactly how much current is being drawn when the breaker trips.  I have the equipment to do it so I can do it easily.  But since the OP already admitted that he's a sparky NOT, he should hire someone to troubleshoot and resolve the problem!!

[Crossy]

Is this something which has just started and everything has been OK in the past?

 

How many Watts is the heater?

 

How many Amps is the breaker?

 

Does the breaker have a "test" button? (is it an RCBO)

 

If you're not sure, post photos.

[happydays]

On 16/02/2017 at 5:02 AM, Crossy said:

Is this something which has just started and everything has been OK in the past?

 

How many Watts is the heater?

 

How many Amps is the breaker?

 

Does the breaker have a "test" button? (is it an RCBO)

 

If you're not sure, post photos.

Hi Crossy

Sorry for taking so long to reply, been looking for the heater user manual. It's a Siemans DH 0611, 6 kW & 32 A fuse protection. Not sure about the breaker so I've attached a photos.

It has been happening for a long time but only intermittently, not every time I use it.

Cheers

[ThaidDown]

Breaker 13 (hot water kitchen) is a 20A breaker. Too small for 6KW

 

Adding.. 32A would be ok if the wire size is  thick enough. What wire size do you have from breaker box to heater.?

Edited February 17, 2017 by ThaidDown

[happydays]

25 minutes ago, ThaidDown said:

Breaker 13 (hot water kitchen) is a 20A breaker. Too small for 6KW

 

Adding.. 32A would be ok if the wire size is  thick enough. What wire size do you have from breaker box to heater.?

No idea about the wire size I'm afraid. What size would it need to be for a 32 A breaker?

[ThaidDown]

^^^ If the heater is the only thing on the circuit, and you do not intend to put a bigger heater in, then 4mm should be ok.

 Note.... If Crossy  comments later and says 6mm, then go with his recommendation.

 

[Crossy]

Yup ^^^ the installation instructions say 32A breaker and 4mm² cable http://media3.bsh-group.com/Documents/9001155288_A.pdf

 

In truth if it's on 2.5mm² it will be fine so long as it's not used for hours at a time.

 

What power is the oven (is it just an oven)? Most domestic ovens (no hob) would be fine on a 20A breaker. Swapping the last two breakers could be a quick (and very cheap) fix.

[happydays]

15 hours ago, Crossy said:

Yup ^^^ the installation instructions say 32A breaker and 4mm² cable http://media3.bsh-group.com/Documents/9001155288_A.pdf

 

In truth if it's on 2.5mm² it will be fine so long as it's not used for hours at a time.

 

What power is the oven (is it just an oven)? Most domestic ovens (no hob) would be fine on a 20A breaker. Swapping the last two breakers could be a quick (and very cheap) fix.

The water heater is only used for 15 minutes max so as long as the cable is at least 2.5mm then I can use a 32A breaker right?

Not sure about the power of the oven but I've run it at max temp for short periods & at low temp for 8 hours+ & the breaker has never gone off.

[zorro1]

Stop resetting it, your playing with fire. Electrician won't cost more than 1 thousand baht to sort it

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[wayned]

5 hours ago, happydays said:

The water heater is only used for 15 minutes max so as long as the cable is at least 2.5mm then I can use a 32A breaker right?

Not sure about the power of the oven but I've run it at max temp for short periods & at low temp for 8 hours+ & the breaker has never gone off.

Post a picture of the label on the back of the oven or read it and post the results.  It should have either kWh data or amps.