Missing Russian latest - flip-flop found on beach as police wait for return of "diving buddy"

[webfact]

Missing Russian latest - flip-flop found on beach as police wait for return of "diving buddy"

 

Picture: Thairath

 

KOH TAO: -- Police and diving teams searching for missing Russian tourist Valentina Novozhyonova have found a flip-flop on a beach that they believe may have been hers.

 

But they have no prospect of proving that from DNA as it has been out too long and any evidence is too degraded for testing. However, they are going to show the footwear to relatives to try and ascertain if it was hers, reported Thairath.

 

Now it has emerged that some crucial CCTV is missing after a camera failed to record.

 

Meanwhile the authorities are waiting for the return of a male "diving buddy" who they believe teamed up with Valentina, 23, before she went missing in the middle of February.

 

The man is currently abroad and is due back in a week.

 

Valentina was only reported missing on March 3rd and police have had little to go on. Some of her possessions were found in her room at the Koh Tao Hostel.

 

Searches on land and in the ocean by Thai and foreign teams have turned up nothing. And yesterday the ocean search was severely hampered by high winds and choppy seas.

 

Police have some CCTV footage but crucially some footage of her arrival on a boat on the island is missing. The reason for this, they said, was that the recording timed out.

 

They would like to know who if anybody met her on arrival at Koh Tao and if indeed it was the diving buddy referred to earlier.

 

Police said that it is impossible to say yet whether Valentina is dead.

 

Source: Thairath

 

-- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2017-03-10

[webfact]

Body parts found in Koh Tao

 

 

KOH TAO: -- According to Nation TV on Thursday evening dive teams discovered five objects believed to be body parts off the coast of Koh Tao.

 

The chilling discovery was made in Chalok Baan Kao Bay. A green vest and dive mask were also recovered. The ‘objects’, that have been described as bone and flesh, have been sent for forensic examination in a bid to discover if they belong to missing Russian Miss Novozhyonova.

 

The green vest and dive mask were found in four to five meters of water. Police are still appealing for information with regards to the missing woman, who was said to have been free diving in Koh tao where hundreds go diving and snorkelling each day.

 

It is unclear why a body would be found in pieces at this stage. The area where the discovery was made has been cleared of boats. The search will continue on Friday.

 

Source: http://www.samuitimes.com/body-parts-found-koh-tao/

 

-- © Copyright Samui Times 2017-03-10

[Nicolas32]

Interesting that the  Snorkelling Masks is broken in half 

[Khun Han]

Good to see all and sundry contaminating the evidence with their bare hands. That should render any potential forensics invalid.

 

Body in pieces, and cctv missing.....here we go again.

[ezzra]

25 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

Good to see all and sundry contaminating the evidence with their bare hands. That should render any potential forensics invalid.

 

Body in pieces, and cctv missing.....here we go again.

 

I have watched enough CSI TV to know by now that

Items that have been submerged in water for a lengthy period of times

are of no forensic values what so ever, and that is why bodies are often

dumped in watery graves to eliminate any biological traces.....

[Nicolas32]

two bodies were eaten clean to the bone within a month..

 

Dead Bodies In The Ocean: What Happens to These Corpses? (WATCH)

http://www.hngn.com/articles/48010/20141104/dead-bodies-in-the-ocean-what-happens-to-these-corpses-watch.htm

[bangkokorbust]

Is coincidence the dive buddy left the country

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[impulse]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

The man is currently abroad and is due back in a week.

 

Not if he's smart, he won't.

[toenail]

A lucrative business would be fixing the 1000's of malfunctioning security CCTV cameras -- Wait, the Thai rule is that you have them displayed, not necessarily operating. (my-pen-ry)

[Allstars]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Now it has emerged that some crucial CCTV is missing after a camera failed to record.

 

Naaah, that would be a first.

[Sakeopete]

Time to find new goats just in case. 

[Sphere]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Meanwhile the authorities are waiting for the return of a male "diving buddy" who they believe teamed up with Valentina, 23, before she went missing in the middle of February.

 

The man is currently abroad and is due back in a week.

 

Any pics of this guy cowering behind a convenience store counter yet? 

[IamNoone88]

"It is unclear why a body would be found in pieces at this stage"

 

I'll give you three guesses...........

[steven100]

22 minutes ago, Sakeopete said:

Time to find new goats just in case. 

if i was from Burma i would be on the first plane back home ....

[rkidlad]

2 hours ago, ezzra said:

 

I have watched enough CSI TV to know by now that

Items that have been submerged in water for a lengthy period of times

are of no forensic values what so ever, and that is why bodies are often

dumped in watery graves to eliminate any biological traces.....

You still follow protocol. Even if nothing turns up you can say "Well, we followed protocol and found nothing at all. So we can now eliminate that and move on".

 

There's a reason why everything has an order. Once you let the 'small things' slip you've set a precedent to allow other things to slip.

 

Still, this isn't the case with the B2. They were up to an international standard on that one - 

 

 

[dotpoom]

RIP dear lady.

[elektrified]

"Now it has emerged that some crucial CCTV is missing after a camera failed to record. "  Of course.....

[TheFishman1]

Missing CCTV who would have thought that cops investigion joke they know who to talk to the people who run that place TIT

[bbbbooboo]

hmmm......curiouser and curiouser....hmmmm

[DM07]

Here we go again!

If I were a cynic, I would say, the RTP will come up with a theory, that her body disintegrated while diving!

Mutilated body, missing CCTV- footage, young blonde...where have I heard that before?

 

[passiflora]

Diving with flip flop? 

[little mary sunshine]

So sad and very suspicious!!   At least

they aren't calling this a suicide...yet!!

[madmitch]

In a case like this they really need a top notch forensics team, the likes of which is unlikely to be found in Thailand, let alone Koh Tao. 

[bananafish]

Well, it shouldn't really be difficult to get DNA off of body parts. 

[webfact]

Thai media report body parts found in Koh Tao "part of human hip and arm"

 

Picture: Thairath

 

KOH TAO: -- Thai Rath reported that the search for missing Russian tourist Valentina Novozhyonova had turned up what is believed to be human remains.

 

They reported that bones and flesh found underwater in Chalok Ban Kao Bay were thought to be part of a hip and an arm.

 

The parts were found on an underwater section of rocks at a depth of 7 or 8 meters approximately 400 meters offshore.

 

A green singlet and black face mask was also found.

 

Sanook.com quoted a Surat Thani official as saying that the bones found by the dive teams were relatively "new with some flesh still attached" and were likely human.

 

They said that the parts were sent to Hat Yai for DNA analysis to ascertain if they belonged to the 23 year old  who went missing in the middle of last month.

 

Picture: Sanook

 

Sanook quoted Uaychai Innark as saying that the body parts were found in an area where people had died before. It was a dangerous part of the sea, they said, with swirling and unpredictable currents.

 

Earlier it was reported that a flip-flop was found that may have belonged to Valentina and that police were waiting to interview a "dive buddy" who may have met her before she died. That person was not named but had gone abroad in the meantime.

 

Also some CCTV that could throw light on the movements of Valentina is missing after a machine failed to record.

 

The Russian was reported missing on March 3rd and several of her possessions were found in her room at the Koh Tao Hostel. She was known to be a keen free diver, people who dive without the aid of scuba gear.

 

Sources: Thai Rath, Sanook

 

-- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2017-03-10

 

 

[dieseldave1951]

4 hours ago, Khun Han said:

Good to see all and sundry contaminating the evidence with their bare hands. That should render any potential forensics invalid.

 

Body in pieces, and cctv missing.....here we go again.

It didn't in the last case ?????? on this den of iniquity 

[hobz]

4 hours ago, Khun Han said:

Good to see all and sundry contaminating the evidence with their bare hands. That should render any potential forensics invalid.

 

Body in pieces, and cctv missing.....here we go again.

Par for the course...

[goferman]

"It was a dangerous part of the sea, they said, with swirling and unpredictable currents."

 

Ahhh yes of course ... natural causes ... case closed.

[sobriquet]

If two small guys can rape/kill a woman and a tall, big guy without any help at all then hang around on an island waiting to be caught, then it's quite plausible a woman can go free-diving and drown, then have her body completely mutilated by fish (?) and have her mask snapped clean in half and also have no witnesses to her doing anything, while the single CCTV camera that would have recorded her stopped working at a critical time. 

 

What if the body parts don't belong to Valentina? Then we have an unidentified body and a missing person. 

[smedly]

so they may have found her equipment and clothing floating in the sea - sinister

 

they may also have found body parts - not a whole body floating in the sea - extremely sinister

 

they found someone who went diving with her presumably in a boat but left the Island, the boat owner has remained silent  ?

 

The plot thickens