Ex- FM Surapong readies to end political life

[webfact]

Ex- FM Surapong readies to end political life

 

 

BANGKOK: -- Former foreign minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul said he was ready to accept his fate to be impeached by the National Legislative Assembly on March 30 and would end his political life over his alleged role in returning a Thai passport to former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

 

The core member of the Pheu Thai party complained that members of political parties who are on the opposite side with the military junta are now left with very limited political space as their mouths and noses were gagged.

 

“The NCPO’s democracy is that whatever the junta has done or being done is seen as right and beyond criticism,” said Mr Surapong, adding, however, he hopes, one day, people will realize what is right or wrong.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/ex-fm-surapong-readies-end-political-life/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2017-03-27

[ChrisY1]

Good move Surapong....well in any case, he probably would never have been given any position again whoever won a legitimate election...so a very face saving way of getting out

[scorecard]

8 minutes ago, ChrisY1 said:

Good move Surapong....well in any case, he probably would never have been given any position again whoever won a legitimate election...so a very face saving way of getting out

 

1. When he was appointed as the 'Foreign Minster' he said publicly that he knew nothing whatever about this subject and had zero experience in this subject. Another example of incapable appointees, and in this case to head a very senior ranking ministry.

 

2. In his tenure he did nothing whatever of any value to Thailand.

 

3. With his baggage (deliberately state that you will ignore the law - just do as you want / as your paymaster (convicted paymaster) demands), no self respecting party would want him.   

[chainarong]

A very poor excuse for a Foreign Minister,  ridiculed internationally, DPM Pawtwit has learnt from the Surapong school of uselessness and indeed excels daily on B/S....................................... 

[worgeordie]

"would end his political life ", in prison ,hopefully.

regards worgeordie

[joebrown]

Maybe his idea of ceasing political activity will mean just that. You  know, the same as the political monk Suthep.

[Cuchulainn]

Good. GET OUT!!

[Prbkk]

Rumour has it that he's contemplating a career in gay porn.

[klauskunkel]

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Surapong, adding, however, he hopes, one day, people will realize what is right or wrong.

Hope springs eternal. One might even hope that one day, in a galaxy far, far away, Surapong might realize that giving a passport to his criminal fugitive brother in law is wrong... But he knew that then and there, didn't he.

[Eric Loh]

He knows too well that he just can't fight against the military hell bent to deny Thaksin passport which was revoked for political reason. The passport was first withdrew by the Surayud Junta government after the 2006 coup, reversed back by the PPP government when they were elected and revoked again by the military friendly Dem party in 2008. It continued with Surapong reversal and again revoked by the coup junta government. The junta took his passport and then his rank and now going after his money. Blatant political attempts. 

[scorecard]

1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

He knows too well that he just can't fight against the military hell bent to deny Thaksin passport which was revoked for political reason. The passport was first withdrew by the Surayud Junta government after the 2006 coup, reversed back by the PPP government when they were elected and revoked again by the military friendly Dem party in 2008. It continued with Surapong reversal and again revoked by the coup junta government. The junta took his passport and then his rank and now going after his money. Blatant political attempts. 

 

Back to sleep for you el, he broke the law no matter how you try to dress it up.

 

'Junta took his rank.'  Would it not be true that the law dictates (both in Thaiand very probably every country in the world  that the rank of a person since convicted (and given a 2 years jail sentence to boot) should be revoked? Or is that too difficult to understand?

 

And please don't (again) claim his conviction was politically motivated. He broke a serious law and no matter how you try to twist it the case was clearly not politically motivated, and the case was heard during the time his scaly party were in power.

[Eric Loh]

6 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

Back to sleep for you el, he broke the law no matter how you try to dress it up.

 

'Junta took his rank.'  Would it not be true that the law dictates (both in Thaiand very probably every country in the world  that the rank of a person since convicted (and given a 2 years jail sentence to boot) should be revoked? Or is that too difficult to understand?

 

And please don't (again) claim his conviction was politically motivated. He broke a serious law and no matter how you try to twist it the case was clearly not politically motivated, and the case was heard during the time his scaly party were in power.

As usual you run your mouth without little knowledge in your tiny brain.

 

Thaksin left the force before the Supreme Court sentencing. Police administrative power to stripped his rank under the Police Act stated that it should not apply to those who left the force. What the junta did was unprecedented. This was highlighted by top police official. It was blatant political reason why he was stripped. His conviction by retro active laws has been discussed to death and not necessary to bring that up again.

 

 

 

 

[scorecard]

56 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

As usual you run your mouth without little knowledge in your tiny brain.

 

Thaksin left the force before the Supreme Court sentencing. Police administrative power to stripped his rank under the Police Act stated that it should not apply to those who left the force. What the junta did was unprecedented. This was highlighted by top police official. It was blatant political reason why he was stripped. His conviction by retro active laws has been discussed to death and not necessary to bring that up again.

 

 

 

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1. And given his scaly and corrupt history is it not appropriate his rank should be removed?  And please don't twist with '''but suthep''' etc. 

 

2, "His conviction by retro active laws has been discussed to death and not necessary to bring that up again."  

 

His conviction relates to very long standing laws to protect any attractive common wealth of all Thais being illegally / unethically sold off to family or cronies, etc. The laws concerned are not new retro active laws as you cunningly try to suggest. 

Edited March 27, 2017 by scorecard

[ramrod711]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

“The NCPO’s democracy is that whatever the junta has done or being done is seen as right and beyond criticism,” said Mr Surapong, adding, however, he hopes, one day, people will realize what is right or wrong

Some people already know what is right, illegally giving your cousin the fugitive a passport isn't right you knob.

[Baerboxer]

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

He knows too well that he just can't fight against the military hell bent to deny Thaksin passport which was revoked for political reason. The passport was first withdrew by the Surayud Junta government after the 2006 coup, reversed back by the PPP government when they were elected and revoked again by the military friendly Dem party in 2008. It continued with Surapong reversal and again revoked by the coup junta government. The junta took his passport and then his rank and now going after his money. Blatant political attempts. 

 

Eric, Thaksin's passport was revoked because he jumped bail. The case wasn't political apart from him doing something illegal whilst PM. His cousin, when PTP FM specially opened the FM and hand delivered the new passports to someone he new was wanted on jumping bail and outstanding court cases. Do you think the Krungthai Fraud Case to be political Eric?

 

A genius stroke though for a bent politician. Complain loudly that every case brought against you is politically motivated or should be annulled in the interests of reconciliation. And there are plenty around gullible enough to swallow it.

 

Thaksin, like all politicians, puts himself and his family and friends above the law whilst in power. Now he's paying the price albeit a long time in coming.

Edited March 27, 2017 by Baerboxer

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

As usual you run your mouth without little knowledge in your tiny brain.

 

Thaksin left the force before the Supreme Court sentencing. Police administrative power to stripped his rank under the Police Act stated that it should not apply to those who left the force. What the junta did was unprecedented. This was highlighted by top police official. It was blatant political reason why he was stripped. His conviction by retro active laws has been discussed to death and not necessary to bring that up again.

 

 

 

 

 

Eric, you need to research factual reality rather than use posts by Shin fans on here or Shin propaganda.

 

Do you think it was by chance that others bid ludicrously below market price so Mrs. T could bid a lot below market price and still win? You think it all above board?

 

And when charged because he signed something the law prohibits in the position he occupied what was his reaction? Offered to give the money back and later his lawyers tried to bribe the case judges.

 

You think these are the actions of an honest politician?

[Becker]

30 minutes ago, ramrod711 said:

Some people already know what is right, illegally giving your cousin the fugitive a passport isn't right you knob.

No, but calling someone a knob isn't right. And anyway, giving your cousin a passport pales in insignificance compared to mounting a coup, tearing up the constitution, suspending basic human rights, persecuting your political opponents while at the same time turning a blind eye to the same crimes being committed by your allies, killing activists etc, etc, ect. Don't you agree?

[robblok]

14 minutes ago, Becker said:

No, but calling someone a knob isn't right. And anyway, giving your cousin a passport pales in insignificance compared to mounting a coup, tearing up the constitution, suspending basic human rights, persecuting your political opponents while at the same time turning a blind eye to the same crimes being committed by your allies, killing activists etc, etc, ect. Don't you agree?

Does that matter... or are you one of those persons that thinks crime should go unpunished because someone else does not get punished. 

 

Guess your one of those. Did you know the popcorn man was send to jail while the red shirts shooting at him at the time were not caught got off.. should he be free now too ? I would not think so.. but then again I feel that people who commit a crime should be punished and it does not depend on what others do.

 

Also do you think that all the crimes of the Shins would be punished if the junta had not gotten in power.. I don't think so that is why i support the junta.. because otherwise the Shins get away with it all.. not because i like the junta that much. 

[bangrak]

3 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

He knows too well that he just can't fight against the military hell bent to deny Thaksin passport which was revoked for political reason. The passport was first withdrew by the Surayud Junta government after the 2006 coup, reversed back by the PPP government when they were elected and revoked again by the military friendly Dem party in 2008. It continued with Surapong reversal and again revoked by the coup junta government. The junta took his passport and then his rank and now going after his money. Blatant political attempts. 

Khun Eric, why are you talking about 'passport'(singular), like Surapong does actually, while it are at least(!) TWO: one regular, AND a diplomatic(!?!) one..., which were emitted by the passport division, which had been closed several days because of the flood, and was especially(!) opened (outside of its normal daytime opening hours) for this sole purpose (and didn't re-open for the Thai population the next morning, by the way...), nothing 'political' in there for you, outside of the blatant abuse of power...?

[CantSpell]

Good good Gollum, back to your cave please :)

[Chris Lawrence]

Ending a political career is a farce. A lot here get hot under the collar on subjective issues. Its fish and chip wrapper for tomorrow. It got Mr T out of the country so the long waiting soap can still continue. Don't u just luv the intrigue that develops. I just hope everyone is following the plot. 

Edited March 27, 2017 by Chris Lawrence

[Sydebolle]

Wondering when they will start handing down real sentences, lock the culprits up and throw away the key. He'll get away with it and as he announced his "retirement" from something he would never get again his all-so-important-frog-face is saved as well - what a farce! 

If I see stories of people who stole coconuts in Phattalung and were fined THB 50'000 and compare this treatment to the little Red bull prick .......

Thailand has a VERY VERY LONG way to go until Thailand is being taken serious and a valuable member of the grown-up 21st century society of nations. 

[MobileContent]

Would TS have done the same after he was removed from power he would be just fine and no taxes would have needed to be paid back. 

[seajae]

got real hopeful there for a bit, thought he was going  to end his own life, would make a lot of people very happy if he did, what a loser.

[Eric Loh]

The article in Bangkok Post today was an excellent commentary that nothing is even handed and fair with the junta against PT. Surapong bowing to intimidation is cowardly but I don't expect him to bid farewell to politics. 

[Becker]

3 hours ago, robblok said:

Does that matter... or are you one of those persons that thinks crime should go unpunished because someone else does not get punished. 

 

Guess your one of those. Did you know the popcorn man was send to jail while the red shirts shooting at him at the time were not caught got off.. should he be free now too ? I would not think so.. but then again I feel that people who commit a crime should be punished and it does not depend on what others do.

 

Also do you think that all the crimes of the Shins would be punished if the junta had not gotten in power.. I don't think so that is why i support the junta.. because otherwise the Shins get away with it all.. not because i like the junta that much. 

Actually, I like to see them all punished. Surapong for the heinous crime of issuing a passport and the junta for treason.

[scorecard]

21 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

The article in Bangkok Post today was an excellent commentary that nothing is even handed and fair with the junta against PT. Surapong bowing to intimidation is cowardly but I don't expect him to bid farewell to politics. 

 

 

So your saying that the action against surapong is all unfair and he's being intimidated.

 

Perhaps it's you who should say farewell...

[robblok]

6 minutes ago, Becker said:

Actually, I like to see them all punished. Surapong for the heinous crime of issuing a passport and the junta for treason.

Me too.. however that the junta does not get punished does not mean Surapong has to get off free. So there we are circle is round. Surapong will get punished maybe the junta too in a future. Who knows. 

[robblok]

4 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

 

So your saying that the action against surapong is all unfair and he's being intimidated.

 

Perhaps it's you who should say farewell...

 

Of course they will say its unfair.. totally unfair to hand 2 passports back that were taken away by a court. Totally unfair opening a building that is flooded just for the issuing of passports for a criminal. Does not even look like abuse of power or nepotism.

 

Its fun how these red supporters keep calling everything political. 

[ramrod711]

5 hours ago, Becker said:

No, but calling someone a knob isn't right. And anyway, giving your cousin a passport pales in insignificance compared to mounting a coup, tearing up the constitution, suspending basic human rights, persecuting your political opponents while at the same time turning a blind eye to the same crimes being committed by your allies, killing activists etc, etc, ect. Don't you agree?

Crimes committed by your allies, I take it that you condemn the red shirts for following Thaksin's orders. I'll tell you what I'm willing to do though, if you're man enough to admit that changing the tax laws as a PM days before you sell your corporation in order to save billions and then selling the shares to your children and household staff for pennies on the dollar is wrong, I'll apologize for calling Surapong a knob.