Football fiasco: Two Britons, Thai accused of Premier League piracy

[nakhonandy]

On 5/16/2017 at 7:03 PM, ujayujay said:

This are not thai providers. Its possible to see near all premier league, bundesliga, Icehockey matches etc. via internet stream from providers all over the world at language of your choice. For free. Its no Rocket science.

I know that but the copyright for content is international. 

[Nomad97]

This is a legal TV sports package just announced.  Just received in my inbox today the latest offer from True Digital HD, see https://www.facebook.com/truedigitalhd/ . 

 

From what I can see they are stating they have the just added the J-league (Japan) to their already exhaustive list of European football.  They also say they are the only one with the TV rights in Thailand for the next 3 years.  They are offering the following package: 

 

True Super Soccer Pack x HD Combo Pack
- Bein Sports 1
- Bein Sports 2
- Bein Sports 3
- Bein Sports 4
- Bein Sports 5
- Bein Sports 6
- True Sport HD 2
- True Sport HD 3
- True Sport 2
- True Sport 6
- True Sport 7
- True Film HD
- True Movie Hits
- True Asian Series
- True Film Asia
- True Thai Film
- true x-zyte
- True Explore LIFE
- True Spark PLAY

 

 Buy the package plus true super soccer package today. Worth 549 baht but special offer price of only 399 baht / 30 days.

 

Apologies for any translation errors.  You will need to confirm what is what with a personal visit to True I guess.

 

[R123]

Can call me stupid or whatever but only in the last hour or so having been trying to access a certain website have I learnt from reading around Thai Visa the whole operation of the site offering football live et al is not lawful.

Last august having seen the website advertised on well known web pages I paid via Visa Card a sum of around 10000 baht to subscribe to the service believing it was perfectly legal and thereafter able to access premiership, championship and other football as well as live boxing etc.

Now I learn the truth.

So are those companies including Visa Card also liable to arrest being aiding and abetting an unlawful operation?

Also:

Can anyone tell me is there any LEGAL website where I can view by subscription on my tablet premiership and championship matches.

Thx!

 

 

[al007]

23 minutes ago, R123 said:

Can call me stupid or whatever but only in the last hour or so having been trying to access a certain website have I learnt from reading around Thai Visa the whole operation of the site offering football live et al is not lawful.

Last august having seen the website advertised on well known web pages I paid via Visa Card a sum of around 10000 baht to subscribe to the service believing it was perfectly legal and thereafter able to access premiership, championship and other football as well as live boxing etc.

Now I learn the truth.

So are those companies including Visa Card also liable to arrest being aiding and abetting an unlawful operation?

Also:

Can anyone tell me is there any LEGAL website where I can view by subscription on my tablet premiership and championship matches.

Thx!

 

 

Depends on which Visa card you had 

 

You might get your lost money back from them, suggest worth a go

[wump]

2 hours ago, R123 said:

Can call me stupid or whatever but only in the last hour or so having been trying to access a certain website have I learnt from reading around Thai Visa the whole operation of the site offering football live et al is not lawful.

Last august having seen the website advertised on well known web pages I paid via Visa Card a sum of around 10000 baht to subscribe to the service believing it was perfectly legal and thereafter able to access premiership, championship and other football as well as live boxing etc.

Now I learn the truth.

So are those companies including Visa Card also liable to arrest being aiding and abetting an unlawful operation?

Also:

Can anyone tell me is there any LEGAL website where I can view by subscription on my tablet premiership and championship matches.

Thx!

 

 

Restreaming ANY copyrighted content is illegal, period.

 

Edit: If the stream is in a different country.

Edited May 21, 2017 by wump

[wump]

You can do what a lot of Germans do: Get a discounted Sky subscription for 20,99 € per month and just watch SkyGo on VPN (50$/5 years)

[janclaes47]

2 minutes ago, wump said:

You can do what a lot of Germans do: Get a discounted Sky subscription for 20,99 € per month and just watch SkyGo on VPN (50$/5 years)

 

Why Germans, as Sky Germany doesn't has the rights on EPL.

 

[wump]

Yes, I was talking about the Bundesliga. Sure Sky UK has SkyGo as well? Might be a bit pricey though.

 

How about getting an Astro or SkyNet (Burma) card? Quite affordable and can be watched in HD on your TV.

[Crossy]

1 minute ago, wump said:

How about getting an Astro or SkyNet (Burma) card? Quite affordable and can be watched in HD on your TV.

 

Do the beams illuminate Thailand without a massive dish?

 

[wump]

Not sure. Do you know?

[Crossy]

One thing that this whole sorry episode has demonstrated is that there's a market for an integrated, easy to use (preferably legal) viewing system for expats which works on less-than-perfect internet connections.

 

The BBC et-al have been procrastinating for years about providing something of this ilk, and as yet have failed to deliver.

 

I for one would subscribe, just provide the service and clients will come, let me watch FreeView channels legally in Thailand for the cost of a UK TV Licence and I'll sign up tomorrow.

[wump]

You remember the people desperately wanting to being able to watch movies legally in the 2000's? Took 15 years for Netflix to arrive.

 

The content industry is just stupid with all their contracts and backward thinking.

Edited May 21, 2017 by wump

[Doiger]

At the end of the day if it's a one off payment then it's probably illegal.

authorised service providers charge a monthly premium for which ever service you require.

if you pay monthly and something happens and you are no longer able to watch then you call the company and they come and fix it.

if you pay a one off payment and the service gets scrambled then your only option is to pay again, there are no engineers that can come and fix it.

[wump]

Not too hard to figure this one out yourself. I find it a bit unbelievable that people thought it was a legal service?

 

And for the record: ANYTHING that has a one-time fee (lifetime subsscription) is a scam, with the exception of VPNs and Tony's Gym.

[janclaes47]

24 minutes ago, Crossy said:

 

Do the beams illuminate Thailand without a massive dish?

 

 

Before my Kodi days I accessed Astro and Skynet over the satellite.

 

Astro is 1.20m dish, Skynet regular True dish.

 

Edit, I have to correct myself. Astro I used the C-band dish, Skynet the 1.20 dish. Vietnam is the regular size dish.

Edited May 21, 2017 by janclaes47

[Laab Muu]

3 hours ago, R123 said:

Can call me stupid or whatever but only in the last hour or so having been trying to access a certain website have I learnt from reading around Thai Visa the whole operation of the site offering football live et al is not lawful.

Last august having seen the website advertised on well known web pages I paid via Visa Card a sum of around 10000 baht to subscribe to the service believing it was perfectly legal and thereafter able to access premiership, championship and other football as well as live boxing etc.

Now I learn the truth.

So are those companies including Visa Card also liable to arrest being aiding and abetting an unlawful operation?

Also:

Can anyone tell me is there any LEGAL website where I can view by subscription on my tablet premiership and championship matches.

Thx!

 

 

If a website has received monetary or other compensation (ie advertisement revenue, use of services, goods etc) for the advertisement of illegal services from a company supplying illegal services, and you have then been subject to financial losses due to using these services then under Thai law a case can be filed against the website where the services were originally advertised.

[In the jungle]

My guess is that ultimately Filmon will be found to be illegal too.

 

I did a little research into it a while back and the matter has been dragging its way through the American courts for years because Filmon have been throwing money at lawyers.

 

The founder of Filmon also seems to be a really unsavoury character.

 

There is no way I would put money in his pocket.

[JHolmesJr]

wow…i seem to remember a bingo player who was making a killing selling these boxes to fellers in pattaya….wonder if he's gone underground cos he could be next.

[sandyf]

email this morning.

 

UKTV For You is now a closed community.

Due to recent changes regarding IPTV. UKTVFORYOU is becoming a private members closed community.

Today is the last chance to purchase our Premium TV Service.


Becoming a closed community means we will be able to maintain our high quality streaming servers accross the globe.
As our service will no longer be offered to the general public it means we will be able to maintain high quality secure streams where other companies leave themselves open to security threats.

If you would like to join UKTVFOR you. This is the last chance to sign up and the offer will shortly be withdrawn.

As a member you will enjoy.

 

• UK based Email and live chat support.
• UK based telephone support
• All future channel and software upgrades
• Ability to purchase brand new hardware pre configured.
• Special Offers
• First to receive new product launches.
• Friends rewards.
• Introduce friends to purchase and receive a month free credit per sign up.

[janclaes47]

9 minutes ago, sandyf said:

UKTV For You is now a closed community.

Due to recent changes regarding IPTV. UKTVFORYOU is becoming a private members closed community.

Today is the last chance to purchase our Premium TV Service.

 

Is this the same service that closed down because they didn't want to end up in jail like the other guy's?

 

If money is involved they don't seem to be concerned though.

 

 

Edited May 22, 2017 by janclaes47

[ChiangMaiLightning2143]

unsure i use apple  and links over a set box  these days .. so unsure why pay for something if you can find it for free  else where .. 

Found it for free elsewhere or stealing?

[sandyf]

3 hours ago, janclaes47 said:

 

Is this the same service that closed down because they didn't want to end up in jail like the other guy's?

 

If money is involved they don't seem to be concerned though.

 

 

I don't know if UKTV is a generic name of a company name. the email actually came from a company called Lamnia and all of the email did not post. I notice there is an online version of the email here.

http://mail.emarketingcp.co.uk/l/c.php?c=40605&ct=2209&si=388366&u=afcs13

 

[janclaes47]

1 hour ago, sandyf said:

I don't know if UKTV is a generic name of a company name. the email actually came from a company called Lamnia and all of the email did not post. I notice there is an online version of the email here.

http://mail.emarketingcp.co.uk/l/c.php?c=40605&ct=2209&si=388366&u=afcs13

 

Difficult to figure out if this is the same as the free Windows app Crossy posted some time ago, and went offline after the Expat TV debacle.

 

But I guess I'll have to hurry now, since today is the last day I can sign up for a 13.200 Baht set top box, with no channel list or link to the website available  LOL.

[bangkok blue]

After the expat and 365 fiasco, I'm pretty much done with streaming sports. Kodi fine for movies and most series I want. Will fork out for TRUE Super soccer package next season, which I believe is around 299 or 399 per month. 

 

Will investigate what they have RE: Bein connect or True I.D, so I can watch on laptop, when away from home. It's a pain that there will be no on demand, suppose if it's a late game I'll just have to stock up on coffee!

[MartinBKK]

For 99 baht extra you can get the pvr service (need your own hard disk). I just set it to record the late matches and watch the next day as live. Works great.

 

I should  also mention you can use the free truevisions anywhere app to watch on demand on any device. 

Edited May 22, 2017 by MartinBKK

[balo]

I dont understand why people are paying money for these "services" when you can watch most games for free.  

With Aceplayer installed on your computer you can watch most streams for free, not always HD but still good enough for me. Is it legal ? Nope but to prevent it from happening someone has to pull out the internet plug. 

 

 

 

Edited May 22, 2017 by balo

[bangkok blue]

Just now, balo said:

I dont understand why people are paying money for these "services" when you can watch most games for free.  

With Aceplayer installed on your computer you can watch most streams for free, not always HD but still good enough for me. Is it legal ? Nope but to prevent from happening someone has to pull out the internet plug. 

 

 

 

Because buffering drives me mad!

[bangkok blue]

2 minutes ago, MartinBKK said:

For 99 baht extra you can get the pvr service (need your own hard disk). I just set it to record the late matches and watch the next day as live. Works great.

 

I should  also mention you can use the free truevisions anywhere app to watch on demand on any device. 

Are you sure about it being 99bhat? I remember asking about this, can't remember how much, but could swear it was a lot more than 99bhat.

[MartinBKK]

I think they advertise the 99 baht as a promotion but believe me it is a permanent one. On the bill it is shown as 360 baht then on the next line it subtracts the 360 baht. Speak to the call centre not the shop because the girls in the shop don't know what it is usually. I think very few Thai people use it. I have subscribed to True on and off for years and would not pay more than that. If you have a Thai wife or gf I recommend getting them to speak to the call centre everything is a lot smoother :-) Right now my bill is 592.02 (inc vat) every month. I subscribe to the cheapest package plus true super soccer. This gets me bein 1-4 plus any other bein channels when fixtures overflow to 6,7 etc, truesports HD 2 and 3 and truesport 2,5,6,7 plus PVR service. I also use truevisions anywhere regularly when I am away from home. I get a small discount of approx 50 baht because I have a direct debit set up to pay the bill every month. Great deal imo and I am completely satisfied.

Edited May 22, 2017 by MartinBKK

[janclaes47]

1 hour ago, bangkok blue said:

After the expat and 365 fiasco, I'm pretty much done with streaming sports. Kodi fine for movies and most series I want. Will fork out for TRUE Super soccer package next season, which I believe is around 299 or 399 per month. 

 

Will investigate what they have RE: Bein connect or True I.D, so I can watch on laptop, when away from home. It's a pain that there will be no on demand, suppose if it's a late game I'll just have to stock up on coffee!

 

If you're using Kodi already there is football replays which has all games in replay and in HD.