Do you think Trump will be impeached or forced to resign?

[MrPatrickThai]

7 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

 

BTW RT is a known Russian propaganda outlet - guess you're yet another follower of the hard right

Says who, CNN? lol wake up.

[Jingthing]

Says who, CNN? lol wake up.

Says everyone that has any regard for reality.

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[simple1]

22 minutes ago, MrPatrickThai said:

Says who, CNN? lol wake up.

Thus confirming your conspiracy / hard right state of mind. However,..

 

Russia’s state-owned media outlet, RT, has announced that it will comply with US government demands to register as a “foreign agent” of the Russian government

 

 

Edited January 15, 2018 by simple1

[metisdead]

A post using a foreign language has been removed. 

[Jingthing]

Maybe not impeachment but taking back the house and the senate would be a bloody fantastic way to somewhat castrate trump's power.

 

 

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/01/democrats-prepare-for-a-bloodbath-a-novel-strategy-emerges

 

 

"“UNEASY ABOUT THE CHAOS”: AS DEMOCRATS PREPARE FOR A BLOODBATH, A NOVEL STRATEGY EMERGES

 

2018 may be a wave election, but recent races in the south suggest it will take more than anti-Trump mania to run the board."

 

 

 

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[sirineou]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Maybe not impeachment but taking back the house and the senate would be a bloody fantastic way to somewhat castrate trump's power.

 

 

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/01/democrats-prepare-for-a-bloodbath-a-novel-strategy-emerges

 

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 Aside from the traditional mid term challenges and the low popularity of the sitting president, Republicans will face an additional problem IMO, unqualified and out of the mainstream candidates. 

 Before any candidate can run in their state's general  election they have to win their party's  nomination.  (first state primary is March 6th)

Historically very few people vote in congressional  primaries,  and such primaries are usually dominated by the motivated base.  IMO this term the motivated bese the will show up in the republican primaries will be the loony trumpeteers . 

 If the Alabama primary and subsequent general election was an indication ,  look for some interesting candidates in the republican field. I hear Serif Arpaio is running.

PS: I am registered Independent but for this general election. if Charles Manson was Running and there was a D next to his name, never mind that he is dead, I will still vote for him. All I will look for will be the -D- .

And I cant wait, I might even register republican so that I can vote in the primary of my state and vote for the looniest Republican candidate I can find.   LOL

Edited January 15, 2018 by sirineou

[Jingthing]

It is an OBJECTIVE FACT that RT is a propaganda organ of the Russian government, in other words, Putin. If you are allied with that disgusting Russian dictator, up to you. But nobody with any rationality is going to be convinced that RT isn't a government propaganda outlet. People might have more respect for someone with your POV if they just said, I love Putin, thus I love what RT is doing. Many do! 

Edited January 15, 2018 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

10 minutes ago, MrPatrickThai said:

<deleted>? hard right state of mind - lol

 

You Yanks are paranoid and totally clueless of what is going on in the world.

You're posting in a U.S. news topic and ignorantly insulting all Americans. Good move. 

[Skywalker69]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You're posting in a U.S. news topic and ignorantly insulting all Americans. Good move. 

All Americans, except Trump.

[Jingthing]

The honorable conservative republican Senator Jeff Flake likens trump to Stalin. I've thought since he started running that trump has commonalities to various authoritarian demagogues in history, from the left and right. Too bad Flake is leaving but I guess he's right, in FAR right wing Arizona, he would have gotten primaried. Of course, nobody is saying that trump has committed atrocities as grave as such historical dictators or even current ones like Erdogan, but people like Flake are providing important WARNINGS so that hopefully enough decent Americans can do enough to check trump so that damage he can potentially do can be limited as much as possible.

 

"In planned speech, Sen. Jeff Flake compares Trump's media attacks to comments by Stalin

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"It is a testament to the condition of our democracy that our own president uses words infamously spoken by Josef Stalin to describe his enemies," Flake will say, according to the excerpts. "It bears noting that so fraught with malice was the phrase 'enemy of the people,' that even Nikita Khrushchev forbade its use, telling the Soviet Communist Party that the phrase had been introduced by Stalin for the purpose of 'annihilating such individuals' who disagreed with the supreme leader.""

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-flake-speech-trump-media-attacks-20180114-story,amp.html

 

To add, in the speech Flake not only attacks trump but the republicans that support trump, likening them to Stalin's enablers. Strong stuff indeed! But stronger if he could stick around. Of course, if he could stick around he probably wouldn't feel free to be so BOLD. 

 

Edited January 15, 2018 by Jingthing

[Skywalker69]

Guess where the majority of Mar-a-Lago’s foreign workers come from

 

When Trump asked the now-infamous question, “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” he had no idea that he already knew the answer.

 

http://thingsdaily.net/guess-where-the-majority-of-mar-a-lagos-foreign-workers-come-from/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Scott]

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[mania]

Neither....Trump will neither be forced to resign nor be impeached

 

But you can be sure at the end of his 4 or 8 year term this thread will likely still be running

[ballpoint]

12 hours ago, sirineou said:

And I cant wait, I might even register republican so that I can vote in the primary of my state and vote for the looniest Republican candidate I can find.   LOL

That's been done before, and he ended up becoming president.

[Andaman Al]

Impeach this lazy SOB (Presidentially used term). Watch till end.

 

 

 

 

[Opl]

"According to the Washington Post, Republican lawmakers – one in particular – is using candy to stay on the president’s good side. Days later, the No. 2 Republican in the House — known for his relentless cultivation of political alliances — bought a plentiful supply of Starbursts and asked a staffer to sort through the pile, placing only those two flavors in a jar. McCarthy made sure his name was on the side of the gift, which was delivered to a grinning Trump, according to a White House official."

http://www.politicususa.com/2018/01/15/trump-child-gop-lawmakers-candy-stay-good-side.html

[opalred]

what a pig 

yesterday after anther game of golf number 200 and now 2000 lies for the year

which close the airport for others for hrs  and roads 

then returns on plane as it started to rain

walking the steps to the plane has a umbrella-for himself 

son follows no umbrella

wife 3m behind no umbrella 

what a pig   

[Opl]

[Opl]

7 minutes ago, opalred said:

what a pig 

yesterday after anther game of golf number 200 and now 2000 lies for the year

which close the airport for others for hrs  and roads 

then returns on plane as it started to rain

walking the steps to the plane has a umbrella-for himself 

son follows no umbrella

wife 3m behind no umbrella 

what a pig   

[PhonThong]

May I remind everyone, the day of the election, Hillary was predicted to win by a landslide...Trump has unleashed this economy... Tax reform will benefit most working people...In fact, the people who oppose him will most likely see better financial years than any time during the previous administration...And just think, he accomplished this in one year...with all the accusations, obstruction, Investigation, the threat of Impeachment. Makes you wonder what the country could have accomplished with a little unity....

[heybruce]

3 minutes ago, PhonThong said:

May I remind everyone, the day of the election, Hillary was predicted to win by a landslide...Trump has unleashed this economy... Tax reform will benefit most working people...In fact, the people who oppose him will most likely see better financial years than any time during the previous administration...And just think, he accomplished this in one year...with all the accusations, obstruction, Investigation, the threat of Impeachment. Makes you wonder what the country could have accomplished with a little unity....

You are, like many others, crediting Trump with the success of the economy he inherited from Obama, and ignoring the fact that the tax "reform", actually a massive tax cut for rich people and corporations, will do little for working people and will greatly expand the deficit.  You've been watching too much fake news, probably either Fox or Trump.

 

Also, Hillary was never predicted to win by a landslide.  Comey's very public investigation and critically timed news releases caused a hemorrhage of support.  In spite of this Trump and Trumpies think Comey was working for Obama and the Democrats.

[Kieran00001]

15 minutes ago, PhonThong said:

May I remind everyone, the day of the election, Hillary was predicted to win by a landslide...Trump has unleashed this economy... Tax reform will benefit most working people...In fact, the people who oppose him will most likely see better financial years than any time during the previous administration...And just think, he accomplished this in one year...with all the accusations, obstruction, Investigation, the threat of Impeachment. Makes you wonder what the country could have accomplished with a little unity....

 

Are you truly daft enough to think that the moment a new president walks into the White House everything that then happens is down to them?  It takes time for policy to effect the economy.  We are still seeing the benefits that Obama brought, the growing economy and the new jobs don't have anything to do with Trump, apart from the now slow in growth of the economy and the now slow in growth of new jobs, those two issues truly are Trumps to claim.

[Jingthing]

Most people are getting used to the bizarre abnormality of the trump presidency. Many things that would shock and dominate the news for months are now back page one day news stories. So this article asks is the response to trump too quitest?

 

Yes I think so.

 

 

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/01/we-havent-normalized-trump-weve-just-gotten-used-to-him-that-may-be-worse.html

 

"If some of the worst-case scenarios do yet come to pass, we will have but ourselves to blame. And even if they don’t, our inability to react to the clear threat posed by Donald Trump should make us more skeptical about whether humanity will prove able and willing to confront dangers like climate change in the decades to come. If we are capable of living life as though everything was normal even though we know that a deeply dangerous man has his fingers on the nuclear button, we will also be capable of continuing to drive our SUVs even as Miami Beach is submerged in seawater. "

 

 

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[Thakkar]

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Most people are getting used to the bizarre abnormality of the trump presidency. Many things that would shock and dominate the news for months are now back page one day news stories. So this article asks is the response to trump too quitest?

 

Yes I think so.

 

 

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/01/we-havent-normalized-trump-weve-just-gotten-used-to-him-that-may-be-worse.html

 

"If some of the worst-case scenarios do yet come to pass, we will have but ourselves to blame. And even if they don’t, our inability to react to the clear threat posed by Donald Trump should make us more skeptical about whether humanity will prove able and willing to confront dangers like climate change in the decades to come. If we are capable of living life as though everything was normal even though we know that a deeply dangerous man has his fingers on the nuclear button, we will also be capable of continuing to drive our SUVs even as Miami Beach is submerged in seawater. "

 

I’m old enough to remember when Obama ordering a oh, so fancy mustard was fodder for an entire news cycle at Fox. Now THAT was a scandal! Tan suite? THAT was a scandal! 

 

Indictements of four our top level Trump operatives within the first year?

Failing to unequivocally condemn Nazis? 

Paying off a porn star to NOT disclose a sex romp one year into his third marriage?

Outright racist comments?

Golfing on MLK day right after declaring it a day of service?

Announcing major and discriminatory policy changes by twitter before consulting with anyone?

First modern president to NOT release tax returns (even after promising to do so).

First modern president to NOT divest from businesses and investments.

Shortest work day of any modern president.

Open mic bragging about getting away with sexual assault.

Open mic bragging about trying to cheat on pregnant wife with another married women.

First president to continue to hold election-type rallies after the election.

Endorse a credibly accused child molester.

Openly profit off the presidency while still in office.

Openly solicit obsequious praise from cabinet members on live TV.

 

Meh.

 

And that’s just off the top of my head. All that has been normalized. Plus the constant lying, often just for the heck of it.

 

We live in seriously bizzaro times, my friends.

[Berkshire]

18 hours ago, PhonThong said:

May I remind everyone, the day of the election, Hillary was predicted to win by a landslide...Trump has unleashed this economy... Tax reform will benefit most working people...In fact, the people who oppose him will most likely see better financial years than any time during the previous administration...And just think, he accomplished this in one year...with all the accusations, obstruction, Investigation, the threat of Impeachment. Makes you wonder what the country could have accomplished with a little unity....

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump relentlessly congratulates himself for the healthy state of the U.S. economy, with its steady growth, low unemployment, busier factories and confident consumers.

But in the year since Trump's inauguration, most analysts tend to agree on this: The economy remains essentially the same sturdy one he inherited from Barack Obama.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-claims-credit-still-mostly-185032789.html?.tsrc=jtc_news_index

[Jingthing]

Great American novelist Philip Roth, now 85 and retired, shares some thoughts on trump. Refer to article for all of them.

 

 

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No Longer Writing, Philip Roth Still Has Plenty to Say

...

No one I know of has foreseen an America like the one we live in today. No one (except perhaps the acidic H. L. Mencken, who famously described American democracy as “the worship of jackals by jackasses”) could have imagined that the 21st-century catastrophe to befall the U.S.A., the most debasing of disasters, would appear not, say, in the terrifying guise of an Orwellian Big Brother but in the ominously ridiculous commedia dell’arte figure of the boastful buffoon.

 

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/16/books/review/philip-roth-interview.html

[riclag]

 Impeachment is still unpopular according to the Thai Visa survey vote! Hmm, me thinks it's looking  very good for 2020+.

Edited January 18, 2018 by riclag

[Briggsy]

Just now, riclag said:

 Impeachment is still unpopular according to the Thai Visa survey vote! Hmm, me thinks it's looking  very good for 2020.

Not true.

 

The question is "Do you think Trump will be impeached or forced to resign?"

 

The question is not, "Should Trump be impeached or forced to resign?" nor is it, "Would you like Trump to be impeached or forced to resign?"

 

I think no for the actual question and yes for the "should...." question (for reasons of treason).

 

Unless there is a complete collapse in the Republican vote nationwide, Trump will not be impeached or forced to resign. However, his approval ratings tend to suggest it would be a popular move.

[Slip]

2 minutes ago, riclag said:

 Impeachment is still unpopular according to the Thai Visa survey vote! Hmm, me thinks it's looking  very good for 2020.

The poll was closed weeks if not months ago.  I would be genuinely interested to see the results if they were to re-run the poll now, always bearing in mind of course that it is a question about likelihood rather than desired outcome.

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, riclag said:

 Impeachment is still unpopular according to the Thai Visa survey vote! Hmm, me thinks it's looking  very good for 2020+.

The poll voting was FROZEN month ago. Did you not know that?

I'd like to see a fresh poll, and explicitly requested it here, but there was no response.