France's Macron says U.S. interests to be harmed by climate deal withdrawal

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France's Macron says U.S. interests to be harmed by climate deal withdrawal

REUTERS

 

In a televised address, French President Emmanuel Macron ruled out any renegotiation of the Paris climate accord after President Trump pulled out of the agreement on Thursday. 

 

PARIS (Reuters) - French President Emmanuel Macron on Thursday categorically ruled out any renegotiation of the Paris climate accord and said U.S. President Donald Trump's decision to withdraw would harm American interests and citizens.

 

Macron, who made a televised address in French and English, said Trump had "committed an error for the interests of his country, his people and a mistake for the future of our planet."

 

"I tell you firmly tonight: We will not renegotiate a less ambitious accord. There is no way," said Macron, who took office less than a month ago.

 

Macron's message was particularly tough compared with comments after meeting Trump at the Group of Seven summit in Sicily last week, where he had hoped Trump's pragmatism would lead him to stick to the deal.

 

"France believes in you (the U.S.), the world believes in you, but don't be mistaken on climate; there is no plan B because there is no planet B," Macron said.

 

In a separate address in English, Macron responded to Trump's Make America Great Again slogan, saying, "Make the Planet Great Again!"

 

Macron called on U.S. researchers and scientists disappointed by Trump's decision to come to work in France to fight climate change.

 

"France will put forward a concrete action plan to increase its attractiveness for researchers and companies in the ecological transition sector and will take initiatives notably in Europe and Africa on this subject," Macron said.

 

Macron said that he had asked his government to immediately begin work on the issue.

 

The newly elected president of France called on the remaining 194 signatories to the accord to reaffirm their commitments and said he had agreed with Germany and Italy to take strong decisions in the coming weeks.

 

"Tonight the United States has turned its back on the world, but France will not turn its back on Americans," he said.

 

(Reporting by John Irish and Elizabeth Pineau; Editing by Jonathan Oatis, Toni Reinhold)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-06-02

[Usernames]

The American people, the American congress, and the American people decide what harms or does not harm their interests.  Not some French midget.

[boomerangutang]

Macron at his stupidest is smarter than Trump at his most lucid moments.

 

Maybe it's because Trump never had a pet dog as a boy - is why he doesn't have any sensitivity to (or fondness for) nature.   He only cares about himself and his burnished image.  I wouldn't be surprised if he has life-sized gold statues of himself all over his house and garden.  

[darksidedog]

3 minutes ago, Usernames said:

The American people, the American congress, and the American people decide what harms or does not harm their interests.  Not some French midget.

Pretty stupid comment. The US is dependent on the rest of the world for pretty much everything. Its trade deficit shows it buys from abroad massive amounts more than it exports. It tries to exert its will on countries everywhere. This idiotic decision just downgraded America to a backward country, unworthy of respect in the international community. The attitude of the rest of the world is of paramount importance to Americas interests, and anyone with intelligence realises that.

[doggie1955]

We can not fix climate change, what is done is done. The Earth needs to heal itself, and the only way to do that is to have 7 billion people must die....It is a scientific opinion that we will only change the temp by .03 degrees in 100 years, but will cost trillions per year to do it. Absurdity at its finest.

[boomerangutang]

3 minutes ago, doggie1955 said:

We can not fix climate change, what is done is done. The Earth needs to heal itself, and the only way to do that is to have 7 billion people must die....It is a scientific opinion that we will only change the temp by .03 degrees in 100 years, but will cost trillions per year to do it. Absurdity at its finest.

                                 I halfway agree with you, on the lessening # of people issue.  So, in a warped sicko sort of way, Trump is doing good for the planet in the long run, ....because he's facilitating the slowing and eventual lessening of human numbers.   The # of people who are sustainable on this finite planet is about 1/10th to 1/20th the numbers we now have.  

 

                                 If every individual alive today counted for 2 years:  we would collectively = the age of the universe.  Additionally, if everyone accounted for 6 months, we would = the age of our planet. Those are original concepts of mine, btw.  

 

                             On the more conventional perspective, and in-line with your opening sentence:  No one claims we can 'fix' CC.   When a doctor gets an elderly patient with cancer, he isn't expected to FIX the patient back to the ideal health of the 24 year old Olympian she once was.   .....but we can hope the doc can administer some therapy which will lessen the severity of the ailment.   

 

                          Sadly, Trump doesn't want to try to make things better.  He's stuck in old ways of thinking, and tethered to his silly campaign stump promises ("I'll be the best jobs president ever!") while thinking a few hundred coal jobs is the ultimate achievement - while conveniently not noticing that hundreds of thousands of alt.energy jobs will likely be shifted from the US to overseas countries.  

[attrayant]

This is an abdication of leadership on the world stage, opening the door for China to step in and exert more global influence.  The US has become a rogue state and there is a lot of anger in the business community.  Trump says this is supposed to benefit US business interests and employment, but Elon Musk (Tesla) and Bob Iger (Disney) are leaving Trump's advisory council because of this decision.  Microsoft, Facebook, General Electric and (of course ) Google also condemning the action.

 

Even Goldman Sach's CEO signed up for Twitter just to make his first tweet.  That's how bad this is:

 

 

 

[DavoTheGun]

Climate Change is the biggest hoax of all times, go the Trump!

[DavoTheGun]

1 hour ago, boomerangutang said:

Macron at his stupidest is smarter than Trump at his most lucid moments.

 

Maybe it's because Trump never had a pet dog as a boy - is why he doesn't have any sensitivity to (or fondness for) nature.   He only cares about himself and his burnished image.  I wouldn't be surprised if he has life-sized gold statues of himself all over his house and garden.  

Trump is the best President since Lincoln, a man with Balls of Steel and you Lefties hate it! 

[darksidedog]

Just now, DavoTheGun said:

Trump is the best President since Lincoln, a man with Balls of Steel and you Lefties hate it! 

Do you have any idea what a ridiculous statement that is? The universal hymn being sung out there right now is Trump is the worst president EVER!

Balls of Steel? Never seen the inside of his underpants, so can't comment, but he does have the brains of a rocking horse.

Oh, and I am not a leftie by the way. Actually generally conservative, but with a functioning brain.

[Aforek]

40 minutes ago, DavoTheGun said:

Trump is the best President since Lincoln, a man with Balls of Steel and you Lefties hate it! 

I am disapointed, I thougt that  people who decided to live in Issan where interesting and clever people, but you show that there are also stupid people 

maybe Trump has balls but he shows to the the world ( I am European, not American ) that he has a small brain 

 

it's true, has said everywhere on this forum, that with Trump , USA lose much of their prestige around the world; maybe China will remplace USA ? 

now we know that there are stupid people in USA

[ballpoint]

53 minutes ago, DavoTheGun said:

Trump is the best President since Lincoln, a man with Balls of Steel and you Lefties hate it! 

Trouble is, all the steel balls are in his head, and he's lost more than a few of them too.

[JHolmesJr]

Macron trying to paint himself a s tough guy. LOL.

[DavoTheGun]

1 hour ago, darksidedog said:

Do you have any idea what a ridiculous statement that is? The universal hymn being sung out there right now is Trump is the worst president EVER!

Balls of Steel? Never seen the inside of his underpants, so can't comment, but he does have the brains of a rocking horse.

Oh, and I am not a leftie by the way. Actually generally conservative, but with a functioning brain.

We are all entitled to an opinion, in the fullness of time you will be eating those words!  and my brain functions very well, as old as it is!

[DavoTheGun]

59 minutes ago, Aforek said:

I am disapointed, I thougt that  people who decided to live in Issan where interesting and clever people, but you show that there are also stupid people 

maybe Trump has balls but he shows to the the world ( I am European, not American ) that he has a small brain 

 

it's true, has said everywhere on this forum, that with Trump , USA lose much of their prestige around the world; maybe China will remplace USA ? 

now we know that there are stupid people in USA

Have a look at this, a young man with a Brain ! 

 

[jcsmith]

It's hard to disagree with him here. What Trump did today was a selfish act, that will make profit for a small number of companies, while negatively affecting the world as a whole, negatively affecting jobs, negatively affecting the environment, and blowing a serious blow to how other countries perceive America.

[Usernames]

17 minutes ago, DavoTheGun said:

Have a look at this, a young man with a Brain ! 

 

 

Absolutely 100 percent correct.  The problems are China, India, and the Third World.  And the Paris Treaty does nothing to address these countries/regions, except give money to their governments to spend in their traditional corrupt way. BTW, the video on UK cannibal kebabs that immediately follows is equally disturbing. 

Edited June 2, 2017 by Usernames

[JHolmesJr]

34 minutes ago, DavoTheGun said:

Have a look at this, a young man with a Brain ! 

 

well usually Id say he's a tree hugging liberal….

 

i never imagined a trump supporter looking like that…..good lad

[jcsmith]

36 minutes ago, Usernames said:

 

Absolutely 100 percent correct.  The problems are China, India, and the Third World.  And the Paris Treaty does nothing to address these countries/regions, except give money to their governments to spend in their traditional corrupt way. BTW, the video on UK cannibal kebabs that immediately follows is equally disturbing. 

The U.S. is the second largest contributor here. India is making changes despite them having a general power problem. China has been making huge changes. The third world may rely largely on coal but they are such a small percentage in relation. Your information is dated propaganda.

[Usernames]

18 minutes ago, jcsmith said:

The U.S. is the second largest contributor here. India is making changes despite them having a general power problem. China has been making huge changes. The third world may rely largely on coal but they are such a small percentage in relation. Your information is dated propaganda.

Again, pollution is population driven.  Obvious to anyone serious about the question. I wonder how much cleaner and more efficient the US would be had its population stabilized around 220 million, as predicted in the early 1970s.  Almost all population growth in the US is because of immigration.  Another 100 billion people demanding the American lifestyle and putting stress on water, electricity, natural gas, agriculture, homebuilding, freeways, etc. 

Edited June 2, 2017 by Usernames

[boomerangutang]

                        The video below, you can skip to minute 30, where the Jerry Brown interview begins.  As some of you know, Jerry Brown is the guv of California (his father, Hap Brown, was guv earlier - prior to Reagan).  Brown is taking California (by itself, the world's 6th largest economy), toward reason and alternative clean energy.  He's partnering up with China, Canada and Mexico, among others.  While Trump is going backwards, Brown will be cruising forward - working towards a cleaner, saner world.

 

 

[jcsmith]

15 minutes ago, Usernames said:

Again, pollution is population driven.  Obvious to anyone serious about the question. I wonder how much cleaner and more efficient the US would be had its population stabilized around 220 million, as predicted in the early 1970s.  Almost all population growth in the US is because of immigration.  Another 100 billion people demanding the American lifestyle and putting stress on water, electricity, natural gas, agriculture, homebuilding, freeways, etc. 

Population is certainly a factor. U.S. contributes far more CO2 per person than China or India. The world recognizes this as a serious problem, there is a reason only one other country has snubbed this accord in Syria. Nicaragua didn't participate for different reasons (they didn't think it did enough). 

This is about money. Plain and simple. It isn't about jobs, there's more jobs in renewable energy. It isn't about science. It's about a few companies making a huge profit while they can... at the expense of everyone else. 

[DavoTheGun]

2 hours ago, ballpoint said:

Trouble is, all the steel balls are in his head, and he's lost more than a few of them too.

He campaigned and was elected on promises like leaving the TTP and the Paris hoax and fulfilled those promises to the majority that democratically elected him - so a politician that does what he said has no brains' - lol. Your a <deleted>. Just because you fall for globalist garbage doesn't make someone who does what he says he has no brains.' - lefties brains are wired backwards.

[iReason]

24 minutes ago, DavoTheGun said:

... and fulfilled those promises to the majority that democratically elected him

 

Not the majority of the people.

[DavoTheGun]

1 hour ago, iReason said:

 

Not the majority of the people.

Oh a Clinton Lover! in Denial are we. 

[iReason]

13 minutes ago, DavoTheGun said:

Oh a Clinton Lover! in Denial are we. 

 

Oh look! a myopic, marginalizing, jejune mind reader.

Edited June 2, 2017 by iReason

[attrayant]

VOX: Trump wants a better deal than Paris on climate. What’s better than “non-binding”?

 

Quote

 

“As of today,” Trump said in the White House Rose Garden, with a jazz band sitting idly by, “the United States will cease all implementation of the non-binding Paris accord and the draconian financial and economic burdens the agreement imposes on our country.”

 

Later, he added, “Believe me, we have massive legal liability if we stay in.”

 

These sentences are baffling. Did you catch the word “non-binding,” followed by “draconian”? Paris was designed to entice voluntary action and provide a framework for accelerating those actions. Trump just voluntarily left something that would have cost nothing (besides a broken campaign promise), nor subjected the US to any legal action, to stay in.

 

 

Trump has a total lack of comprehension about the Paris Accord.  He's just being played by Bannon.

[kamahele]

7 hours ago, Usernames said:

The American people, the American congress, and the American people decide what harms or does not harm their interests.  Not some French midget.

You are actually not completely correct. He is 5'8" tall which is kind of average. And most Americans polled believed that pulling out of the Paris Accord was not in our best interest so there you go. Americans decided. Pulling out of the Paris Accord would be harmful to the US. The President didn't listen and did it anyway.

[soalbundy]

7 hours ago, darksidedog said:

Pretty stupid comment. The US is dependent on the rest of the world for pretty much everything. Its trade deficit shows it buys from abroad massive amounts more than it exports. It tries to exert its will on countries everywhere. This idiotic decision just downgraded America to a backward country, unworthy of respect in the international community. The attitude of the rest of the world is of paramount importance to Americas interests, and anyone with intelligence realises that.

Trump obviously is not able to understand this then.

[soalbundy]

56 minutes ago, attrayant said:

VOX: Trump wants a better deal than Paris on climate. What’s better than “non-binding”?

 

 

Trump has a total lack of comprehension about the Paris Accord.  He's just being played by Bannon.

He has a total lack of comprehension about anything, an orange biscuit looking for a packet.