Nickymaster Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Wow, who would have thought that real punishment. Its not much but its more then expected many thought he would have walked away. The only part I don't get.. he confessed.. went to jail and now his lawyer wants to appeal and bail.. how so if you confess ?He confessed to something but could be granted bail if he decides to appeal the length of his sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Nickymaster said: Hold tight. He will be out within 1 year for good behavior. He's out already, and anyone with any experience of Thailand will know he isn't going back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, JonnyF said: He's out already, and anyone with any experience of Thailand will know he isn't going back in. Yeap, when I first read the headline I was expecting to see that he was granted bail straight away. I didn't believe for a second that he was gonna spend anytime inside. Lo and behold, we now have the reports that he's out on bail. Even before we knew he had bail, some people were praising the system that he received any prison time at all. The bar is sadly set very low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, rkidlad said: Yeap, when I first read the headline I was expecting to see that he was granted bail straight away. I didn't believe for a second that he was gonna spend anytime inside. Lo and behold, we now have the reports that he's out on bail. Even before we knew he had bail, some people were praising the system that he received any prison time at all. The bar is sadly set very low. Same here, when they didn't mention bail it actually occurred to me that after 3 years this might be the first ray of light that things could actually be changing under the current regime. That optimism lasted less than 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 3 hours ago, sweatalot said: Believe it only when it is proven that he is in jail and really does his time. What about the killer from red bull? he will buy his way out of jail if he has the money. rich people dont stay in prison long. it is only for the poor. the only 2 people i know who went to prison in thailand were offered a payout deal when they arrived. it even has a standard THB/year value. jails must be a great business although i doubt many people who have money end up getting sent there in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 3 hours ago, webfact said: The sentence was halved another pimple on the thai 'justice' system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 another example of the value for life here; 2 killed, 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUTHERNSTAR Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 3 hours ago, robblok said: Wow, who would have thought that real punishment. Its not much but its more then expected many thought he would have walked away. The only part I don't get.. he confessed.. went to jail and now his lawyer wants to appeal and bail.. how so if you confess ? He will appeal and it will take another 5 to 10 years before the Supreme court will decrease his sentence to a suspended sentence with community service. At that stage all the outrage about this case will have died down and he will walk free. The same happened to the 15 yr old girl who killed 9 people and drove without a dl. But then again she had a very long surname, which helped. Regarding the confession. It is standdard practice to confess when guilty because they half your sentence. But in this case it is part of the strategy to soften the judges. He will get bail, appeal and will never see the inside of a jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 What a great deal ! How could he NOT confess ? I still have serious doubts that this menace will ever spend any time in jail, such is the system here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 The Drunk CM student who killed 3 bicyclists got 2 years and just appealed it...it has been over 2 years since the accident and she has yet to spend one night in jail...she should have been locked up until the verdict but not in LOS... i I prefer the CA serial cat killer who got 16 years just this week....justice was done.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobobo Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 3 hours ago, janclaes47 said: In every country in the world you can appeal the severity of the conviction. Even North Korea? There they seem to be executed before your lawyer can utter the word Appeal. If they have defence lawyers that is, I'm not sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2008bangkok Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 2 1/2 year is disgraceful, the dude was going 250 km/h and slammed straight into the back of a car. 2 families are without their children now and will never ever see them again and all he gets is a measly 2 1/2 years. Im not sure what the situation is in Thailand but in western world if you got 2 1/2 years then wouldn't do that long in prison probably a year. Its almost like we are all sitting ducks on the roads. Wrong just plain wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Thus for that NATE TWERP if he decides to drive his MERCEDES PERP CAR into the crowd, he will only get a warning because the adjudicators and police did not view the cell phone videos that all Thais would have viewed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jippytum Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 His crime was close to murder and well documented on cctv .The original sentence was lenient and to get it reduced by 50% by confessing is really laughable and an insult to the memory of two young people wiped out by another rich idiot . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdey Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) The law in Thailand is open to a lot of interpretation. Judges do not have to use precedents and thus each case can be very different. Perhaps in the case of Boss Red Bull the judge has not yet had the kid in court to decide he likes the cut of his jib and guilty or not the sentence may be not be what the public expects. Edited July 19, 2017 by Plonk spelling error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Just now, robblok said: Wow, who would have thought that real punishment 2 1/2 years for killing two people. Old woman sentenced to 25 yrs for picking mushrooms. I've also heard of but can not find anything about, a young woman sentenced to 50 yrs for les majeste recently. Anyone know about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 4 hours ago, scorecard said: Agree, actually just a small punishment for the fiery death of 2 people caused by grossly reckless driving. But a step in the right direction. Hopefully this creates a precedent which pushes for real punishment of boss and reese (if found guilty)! yeah "boss" only killed one so theyll say 2.5 years halved to 1.25 then he'll get mentally ill an be released instantly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyinNE Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 4 hours ago, z42 said: Embarrassing legal system. Has failed every party except the guy in the dock. What use is a confession when the crime is on video and the wrongdoing is plain to see? And appealing an already halved sentence when it was already commuted generously is a disgrace. I hope the sentence is at least served although i guess it won't be I hope that his sentence is increased to 20 years on appeal. Or more would not get a complaint from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxe1200 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 1 hour ago, williamgeorgeallen said: he will buy his way out of jail if he has the money. rich people dont stay in prison long. it is only for the poor. the only 2 people i know who went to prison in thailand were offered a payout deal when they arrived. it even has a standard THB/year value. jails must be a great business although i doubt many people who have money end up getting sent there in the first place. He bought his way out with 200.000THB and an appeal from his lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Man jailed and has license revoked following crash that killed two AYUTTHAYA: -- A Court on Wednesday sentenced a man to two years and six months in jail for driving his Mercedes into another car, killing two post-graduate students in Ayutthaya province in March last year. Janepob Veeraporn, 37, will have his driving license revoked for life. The Court initially ruled to jail Janepob for five years but reduced the sentence to 2 years and six months as the defendant confessed. Janepob's Mercedes slammed at high speed into the back of a Ford sedan carrying Thanthapat Horsaengchai, 34, and Kritsana Thaworn, 32, on Phahlyothin Road in Ayutthaya's Bang Pa-in district on March 13. The Ford burst into flames and both post-graduate students were killed. It is not known whether Janepob will be granted bail or not. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30321175 -- [emoji767] Copyright The Nation 2017-07-19 Granted bail of course.... wanna bet??Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxe1200 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Just now, MaxLee said: Granted bail of course.... wanna bet?? Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app He is out already on 200.000THB and an appeal by his lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 4 hours ago, webfact said: Janepob Veeraporn, 37, will have his driving license revoked for life. The Court initially ruled to jail Janepob for five years but reduced the sentence to 2 years and six months as the defendant confessed. If the civil courts can parlay this conviction into a large award to the families it will hurt him where he lives. I realize it won't replace two young lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyphodb Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 4 hours ago, greenchair said: I just don't understand these lawyers that advise their clients to appeal. 2 and a half years! !!he should be doing cartwheels of happiness. He'll be out in 18 months with good behaviour. An appeal will last years and he might get the 5 years he deserves. Thai lawyers never seem to have the clients best interests in mind. Do you think that ANY lawyers have their clients best interests at heart? All 99% & thats being generous want to do is drag it out as long as possible to milk as much cash as they can from their clients, worldwide, not just here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Triangle Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 The Thai justice system just disgusts me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldiablo72 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 2 1/2 years for the murder of two innocent civilians and 15 years for the lady carrying a miniscule amount of cocaine. This country is truly backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 2.5 years, this basehole should be in for 25, and life cancellation of licence. Although I guess 2.5 is fair, seeing as how it's 30 for picking mushrooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007cableguy Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 What's needed is a Thai Dexter to apply some justice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, Artisi said: Although I guess 2.5 is fair, seeing as how it's 30 for picking mushrooms. The poor husband and wife mushroom pickers (MP) got a 15 year reduction and then another 3 years off for (don't know the reason). Point well made! I have been following the tragic MP case. Sad, very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 35 minutes ago, ldiablo72 said: 2 1/2 years for the murder of two innocent civilians and 15 years for the lady carrying a miniscule amount of cocaine. This country is truly backwards. Not backward, screwed is more like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCauto Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 5 hours ago, robblok said: The part I don't get is how can you appeal if you confess ? I mean.. appeal what.. the height of the sentence ? Lets hope he won't be on bail to wait his appeal. Do you recall the recent case of the popcorn gunman? He also confessed. He also was declared innocent after his appeal. This seems just the latest in the way they're handling the cases of the rich. You toss away the most serious charges as unable to be proven by making sure nobody tests the driver when the accident happens, and so that goes away (Red Bull case also). You then get the tearful confession/wai to the victim/entering the monkhood. You then get the court trial, usually long after the event so that the anger and memory of the incident is clouded. Once the confession halves the sentence, you appeal. Then you get rid of the rest of it or get reduced to probation. No doubt we'll have a claim that loss of driver's license for life is too harsh as it affects his ability to make a living. And voila! No jail time, no charges, no loss of driver's license, no drunk driving charge, no vehicular manslaughter, nothing. Wait for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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