Navy ship hits drawbridge, mast loose

[snoop1130]

Navy ship hits drawbridge, mast loose

By The Nation

 

 

The mast of the Royal Thai Navy’s warship HTMS Surin sustained damage after the vessel hit the bascule Krungthep Bridge on Thursday morning.
 

The accident, which occurred while the ship was passing under the drawbridge, was blamed on miscalculation of the clearance during the rising tide. The crash caused the vessel’s mast to become loose from its base.

 

There was no report of injuries or a damage estimate.

 

The HTMS Surin, a landing ship under the Royal Thai Fleet, was on its way back to its base at the Naval Dockyard Department in Samut Prakan after undergoing routine maintenance and repair work at Bangkok Dock Company, according to the Navy’s spokesman Admiral Jumpol Lumpiganoon.

 

He said both the ship’s personnel and the company’s staff followed the international procedure in towing the HTMS Surin past the bridge. But forceful wind gusts and strong currents at that time made it difficult for the towboat to navigate while the ship was passing the bridge. The ship was pushed off the course, which resulted in the accident, according to the spokesman.

 

The damage to the ship’s mast and the bridge was “minimal”, he said, adding that Bangkok Dock would cover the cost of repairing the bridge and the Navy would get the ship repaired. 

 

A fact-finding committee has been set up to determine measures in order to prevent similar accidents in the future, the Navy spokesman said.

 

The naval ship, commissioned in December 1987, is 112.5 metres long, 15.4 metres wide and 7.8 metres high. Its mast is 21.2 metres high.

 

Krungthep Bridge, opened since June 1959, was the second bridge to be built across the Chao Phraya River in Bangkok.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30322731

 

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[BigBadGeordie]

Now this is why Submarines are a must.

[ChrisY1]

Excuses as usual.....the skipper stuffed up!

[colinneil]

Miscalculation due to rising tides?

I thought that sailors were trained for that kind of thing.

The captain was half asleep, should have made allowances for the tide.

He needs taken away for attitude adjustment.

[KIWIBATCH]

It was the ships fault......never the person in charge is it.......

[moe666]

1 hour ago, colinneil said:

Miscalculation due to rising tides?

I thought that sailors were trained for that kind of thing.

The captain was half asleep, should have made allowances for the tide.

He needs taken away for attitude adjustment.

Typically while in transit under tow or tug boat there will be a pilot in charge of the ship, sorry boys the captian is a bit clear on this one. Yes he is still responsible for his ship but the pilot will bear responsibility for control of the ship.

[cornishcarlos]

1 hour ago, colinneil said:

Miscalculation due to rising tides?

I thought that sailors were trained for that kind of thing.

The captain was half asleep, should have made allowances for the tide.

He needs taken away for attitude adjustment.

 

Read properly before posting...

The vessel was being towed, therefore not the Captains fault, unless you mean the tug boat captains ?

[klauskunkel]

11 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The HTMS Surin, a landing ship under the Royal Thai Fleet, was on its way back to its base at the Naval Dockyard Department in Samut Prakan after undergoing routine maintenance and repair work at Bangkok Dock Company,

make U-turn

[Lupatria]

In this case, what are the chances to blame brake failure? 

[RichardColeman]

Up next - Sub hits sandbank, blamed on miscalculation of the rising tide

[colinneil]

41 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

Read properly before posting...

The vessel was being towed, therefore not the Captains fault, unless you mean the tug boat captains ?

Do not tell me to read before posting, as i did.

The captain bears full responsibility for what ever happens to his ship, OK.

[soalbundy]

don't have to go far for repairs then

[Juan B Tong]

[Pib]

 

Quote

A fact-finding committee has been set up to determine measures in order to prevent similar accidents in the future, the Navy spokesman said.

 

Fast forward one year:  Committee recommends ships should avoid running into bridges.

 

[rosst]

18 minutes ago, colinneil said:

Do not tell me to read before posting, as i did.

The captain bears full responsibility for what ever happens to his ship, OK.

Ah, I see the problem, "cranky Old Bugger" , ha ha ha

[cornishcarlos]

32 minutes ago, colinneil said:

Do not tell me to read before posting, as i did.

The captain bears full responsibility for what ever happens to his ship, OK.

 

Wrong....

Not when it is still under the jurisdiction of the yard that carried out the refit and is being towed back to its permanent base... Once its handed back over, after the bill has been paid, its the Captains :)

 

Smile grumpy bum 

[colinneil]

2 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

Wrong....

Not when it is still under the jurisdiction of the yard that carried out the refit and is being towed back to its permanent base... Once its handed back over, after the bill has been paid, its the Captains :)

 

Smile grumpy bum 

What !! you want me to smile ha ha ha.

Break the habit of being grumpy....Never.

[impulse]

4 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:

38 minutes ago, colinneil said:

Do not tell me to read before posting, as i did.

The captain bears full responsibility for what ever happens to his ship, OK.

 

Wrong....

Not when it is still under the jurisdiction of the yard that carried out the refit and is being towed back to its permanent base... Once its handed back over, after the bill has been paid, its the Captains :)

 

You're both wrong.  First, we have to know who their fathers are...

 

[dieseldave1951]

56 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Up next - Sub hits sandbank, blamed on miscalculation of the rising tide

wrong falling tide 5555

[pattayadon]

You're all wrong.........It was faulty brakes!

[tomwct]

They should have had the 23 Navy Conscripts on board from the Admirals' Seafood Restaurant in Rayong. They would have been able to be lookouts and see the mast would not clear the bridge. Well, maybe next time.

Edited August 4, 2017 by tomwct

[PatOngo]

2 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

Excuses as usual.....the skipper stuffed up!

Nah!....The bridge moved.

[geriatrickid]

1 hour ago, moe666 said:

Typically while in transit under tow or tug boat there will be a pilot in charge of the ship, sorry boys the captian is a bit clear on this one. Yes he is still responsible for his ship but the pilot will bear responsibility for control of the ship.

 

1 hour ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

Read properly before posting...

The vessel was being towed, therefore not the Captains fault, unless you mean the tug boat captains ?

 Sorry gentlemen, but on a military  ship the Captain retains the right of command at all times.

As is the case with civilian vessels, should the master of the vessel believe that the vessel is being put into an unsafe  position, the master  is expected to take charge and immediately act to mitigate the risk.

A pilot on board the vessel or the operator of  a tugboat never relieves the vessel's master or the designated Officer of the Watch of their legal duty for the care and control of the vessel.

The captain and /or the Officer of the Watch are responsible for their vessel.

 

 

[HuaHinHim]

2 hours ago, moe666 said:

Typically while in transit under tow or tug boat there will be a pilot in charge of the ship, sorry boys the captian is a bit clear on this one. Yes he is still responsible for his ship but the pilot will bear responsibility for control of the ship.

I believe at present the only transit under pilotage where the Captain hands over responsibility of the vessel to the pilot is the Panama or the Suez canal, I don't remember which. I may be wrong but from the post it is unclear whether the warship was under its own power while being escorted by the tugs or whether she was dead ship under towage. In any case other than where I have already mentioned the Captain always has ultimate responsibility for his ship. It would also appear that there was a knock for knock (common agreement in days past) insurance deal in place as both parties have agreed to make repairs to the damaged parties separately, i.e the shipyard will repair the bridge and the Navy will repair its own ship. I do accept however that this is Thailand and how they regulate the Captains responsibility and accountability may differ internally 

[Tchooptip]

They should have anticipated the slight drift. I saw him yesterday on TV, with the wind the ship is not right in the middle of the passage as it should but slightly to the right. That said, and in a similar case, it happened to experienced seafarers. 

[nauseus]

Not so easy for the driver to flee the scene for this one!

[farcanell]

They should have had people with sticks at the top of the draw bridge to fend of the ship, thus preventing this kind of damage

 

IMHO... piss poor planning involved here... someone needs a 500 baht fine.

[farcanell]

16 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Not so easy for the driver to flee the scene for this one!

This bloke was photographed immediately after the incident

 

amazing thailand... where there's a will, there's a way.

 

[Srikcir]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The damage to the ship’s mast and the bridge was “minimal”

A little bit of super glue and duct tape ... all good again.

[lvr181]

" But forceful wind gusts and strong currents at that time made it difficult for the towboat to navigate while the ship was passing the bridge."

 

In view of these facts, why were they towing the ship?    Surely they could have waited for better conditions? Not rocket science, as they have now learned (or have they?).

 

Perhaps the Navy should have given the towing job to the guys that regularly tow barges up and down the river? Never hear of many of them getting into trouble.

 

 

Edited August 4, 2017 by lvr181
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