stevenl Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 29 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said: An increasing number of Asian tourists - agree. An increasing number of Western tourists? Over the past 5 years or so? Tremendously. In the past hardly any tourist came to Rawai, and that has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 12 hours ago, stevenl said: No, a sign of increasing competition. In this specific area tourism has (unfortunately I think) only increased, with also western tourists. 2 hours ago, stevenl said: Over the past 5 years or so? Tremendously. In the past hardly any tourist came to Rawai, and that has changed. Yes, but from what I've seen the vast majority are Asian - and obviously that doesn't include the groups spending their holiday visiting the 'sites' in coaches. Presumably there are one hell of a lot of these- as there are one hell of a lot of coaches! And I don't believe for one minute they're full of Western tourists! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said: Yes, but from what I've seen the vast majority are Asian - and obviously that doesn't include the groups spending their holiday visiting the 'sites' in coaches. Presumably there are one hell of a lot of these- as there are one hell of a lot of coaches! And I don't believe for one minute they're full of Western tourists! That's these last few years. Look at how busy nai harm is these days, mostly with westerners. Look at sai yuan development, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inThailand Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 5 hours ago, dick dasterdly said: Yes, but from what I've seen the vast majority are Asian - and obviously that doesn't include the groups spending their holiday visiting the 'sites' in coaches. Presumably there are one hell of a lot of these- as there are one hell of a lot of coaches! And I don't believe for one minute they're full of Western tourists! So true! The number and the quality of western tourists has been declining for years and they have been replaced by Asian tour groups. And based on the new businesses popping up this trend will continue. There is clearly less western tourists every year, hence why stores like P & S are closing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, inThailand said: So true! The number and the quality of western tourists has been declining for years and they have been replaced by Asian tour groups. And based on the new businesses popping up this trend will continue. There is clearly less western tourists every year, hence why stores like P & S are closing. No. Again, the number of western tourists in Rawai had only increased. Edited September 12, 2017 by stevenl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inThailand Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) 30 minutes ago, stevenl said: No. Again, the number of western tourists in Rawai had only increased. You must have a business in Rawai for sale? So the need to put a positive spin on the spiraling downwards business environment? Edited September 12, 2017 by inThailand fat fingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 27 minutes ago, stevenl said: No. Again, the number of western tourists in Rawai had only increased. So, where are these Western tourists? Sitting in their hotels? Bars, restaurants, massage places are all complaining about the lack of customers this year. The Chalong pier road always ticked over nicely at night during the rainy season, yet, this year, it is a virtual ghost town. Sorry Stevenl, my eyes don't agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) 24 minutes ago, inThailand said: You must have a business in Rawai for sale? So the need to put a positive spin on the spiraling downwards business environment? No I don't, no business in Rawai and not for sale, just looking around me. See what happened to Nai Harn Beach these last years, the number of people more than doubled. See what happened to Sai Yuan, where the number of businesses has grown like crazy and the number of people hanging around as well. Maybe not enough to fill all businesses, but that is because the number of businesses has grown. Look at the longtail rentals, busy and that is western tourists, not Chinese tour packages. Rawai is one of the places on Phuket where western tourism has grown these last 5 years or so. Edited September 12, 2017 by stevenl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inThailand Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 14 minutes ago, stevenl said: No I don't, no business in Rawai and not for sale, just looking around me. See what happened to Nai Harn Beach these last years, the number of people more than doubled. See what happened to Sai Yuan, where the number of businesses has grown like crazy and the number of people hanging around as well. Maybe not enough to fill all businesses, but that is because the number of businesses has grown. Look at the longtail rentals, busy and that is western tourists, not Chinese tour packages. Rawai is one of the places on Phuket where western tourism has grown these last 5 years or so. Do you have sight problems? Not get out much? I guess your predicting a record high season as well? Just today, another business casualty. The Starbucks like coffee shop on the way to Nai Harn beach is for rent, ie will be closing. This is an established business for years and always had some customers, but obviously not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 54 minutes ago, inThailand said: Do you have sight problems? Not get out much? I guess your predicting a record high season as well? Just today, another business casualty. The Starbucks like coffee shop on the way to Nai Harn beach is for rent, ie will be closing. This is an established business for years and always had some customers, but obviously not enough. You obviously don't agree with me, no reason to start flaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelepulse Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 From what I see for the area, the number of new businesses opening up in the area has mushroomed, while the number of tourists has grown, but not to the extent of new businesses being opened, so less punters per business, but more punters. I also see a lot more western people at Nai Harn than in years past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPhibes Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Sorry to hear, the downside to efficiency. Hey! There's a Ruby's at the end of that pier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogbrush Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 On 09/09/2017 at 7:56 AM, Jimi007 said: Yes, dark Beer Lao was one of the first things I though of when I heard. I'm not sure if they own the land, I never asked, but I do remember when they rebuilt the place and added hotel rooms upstairs and the shop next door. I saw the plans being drawn up by the owner of P&S. I buy my Lao Dark at Promphan store, up Chao Fah West just before Central on the left. Works out at around 50 baht a bottle; also the cheapest place on the island I've found for Song Sam - 262 baht a bottle. A bit of a schlep, but worth it as their grocery store has some hidden gems, like Shreddies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inThailand Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Most of the tourists at NH beach are day trippers. They motorcycle down with their backpacks. They stay, eat and drink other than in 7 not in NH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimi007 Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 15 hours ago, Bogbrush said: I buy my Lao Dark at Promphan store, up Chao Fah West just before Central on the left. Works out at around 50 baht a bottle; also the cheapest place on the island I've found for Song Sam - 262 baht a bottle. A bit of a schlep, but worth it as their grocery store has some hidden gems, like Shreddies... Yes, I've been going there for many years. They know me and my wife and start to get our usual order together when we walk in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistachios Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Not surprising. I've stopped shopping there years ago when I realised they were grossly price gouging most items compared to any other shop in the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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