SURVEY: Do you want Trump to finish his first term?

[morrobay]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

No. Never. We need to resist American white nationalism / fascism no matter how long it takes. 

Racist shmacist. That WALL from the Pacific to the Gulf should have been built in the 80s. Trump is just getting labeled for correcting a problem. Ilegals and gangs MS 13 . By the way black employment is at a high now according to news reports. 

[Jingthing]

Just now, morrobay said:

Racist shmacist. That WALL from the Pacific to the Gulf should have been built in the 80s. Trump is just getting labeled for correcting a problem. Ilegals and gangs MS 13 . By the way black employment is at a high now according to news reports. 

If I wanted Fox News propaganda, I would watch Fox News. The racism of the "trump" regime is not only related to his immigration policies and rhetoric. It started with the racist birther movement and grew from there.

[bristolboy]

Just now, morrobay said:

Racist shmacist. That WALL from the Pacific to the Gulf should have been built in the 80s. Trump is just getting labeled for correcting a problem. Ilegals and gangs MS 13 . By the way black employment is at a high now according to news reports. 

MS-13 began as a gang in Los Angeles. For the last 10 years its membership has not increased.

[ballpoint]

Just now, bristolboy said:

MS-13 began as a gang in Los Angeles. For the last 10 years its membership has not increased.

Stop introducing the facts into a perfectly good rant.

[Jingthing]

MS-13 is definitely an evil doing gang, no doubt about it, but what that disgusting racist demagogue con man "trump" has done through his fascistic rhetoric is to CONFLATE that most awful group of Latinos with immigration in general, even legal immigration, even "ethnic" immigrants that have been here for generations. especially of people of color. Again, totally racist. Don't try to defend the indefensible. At least SOME republicans get that. Good on them. 

Edited July 14, 2018 by Jingthing

[bristolboy]

2 minutes ago, ballpoint said:

Stop introducing the facts into a perfectly good rant.

When it comes to spouting fact, I'm afraid I've got Tourette's. For instance, did you know that the number of illegal Mexican immigrants crossing the border is now estimated to be about 128,000 per year. More illegals are coming from Central American states like El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala than are Mexicans. And one of the big reason Mexican immigration has declined so sharply is the sharp decline in the birth rate. In Mexico it used to be 6.8 children per woman. Now it's 2.2 So the Mexican economy is much better able to absorb its citizens into the workforce as they come of age.  Of course the Trump administration is slashing funds for worldwide family planning. Imagine how much the immigration rate could be lowered if the USA spent a few billion a year on family planning instead of on building walls and increasing border enforcement. But that wouldn't feed the rage that fuels Trump's supporters. It would just solve the problem, such as it is.

[heybruce]

43 minutes ago, morrobay said:

Look folks Trump is nationalistic, he is looking out for the good old US of A. Trade, NATO and domesticly infrastructure and manufacturing. Where were all of you complainers with that idiot Bush (Iraq) and that SAP Obama. (fast and furious) Y'all should be celebrating. Trump is also a strongman - get used/over it! 

Trump is looking out for Trump.  In the process he is bankrupting the nation, destroying the rules based global trade system, encouraging tyrants and damaging alliances that have prevented another world war since the last world war.

 

I don't want a strongman as President, I want a constitutional system of government in which each branch of government responsibly acts as a check on the other branches.

[Jingthing]

Yeah, and even though it's obvious he has pretensions to be a dictator, he isn't even a BENEVOLENT dictator. He's much more the evil con man corrupt kind. He's all about cynically milking his white nationalist base and if he actually had benevolent intentions, that is clearly proven false based on his toxic actions towards the American health care system. He's literally killing people with his policies and many of those people are members of his base.

 

You could look at a nation like Singapore as a more authoritarian alternative to democracy but one that actually is looking after it's people.

"trump" ain't that and he never will be!

 

Edited July 14, 2018 by Jingthing

[bristolboy]

 

 

Donald J. Trump

 

✔@realDonaldTrump

 

 

I have arrived in Scotland and will be at Trump Turnberry for two days of meetings, calls and hopefully, some golf - my primary form of exercise! The weather is beautiful, and this place is incredible! Tomorrow I go to Helsinki for a Monday meeting with Vladimir Putin.

4:43 PM - Jul 14, 2018

In Trump’s U.K. Visit, Some See ‘Infomercial’ for Money-Losing Golf Resort

Ethics experts tend to be cynical about the president’s sentimental references to his resort: His arrival at Turnberry marks the 169th day during his presidency that he has visit a property owned, managed or branded by the Trump Organization. Financial records show the resort has lost money since Mr. Trump paid about $60 million to purchase it in 2014.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/14/world/europe/uk-trump-scotland-golf.html

 

[Andaman Al]

1 hour ago, morrobay said:

Racist shmacist. That WALL from the Pacific to the Gulf should have been built in the 80s. Trump is just getting labeled for correcting a problem. Ilegals and gangs MS 13 . By the way black employment is at a high now according to news reports. 

I think before you concern yourself with MS13 ya'll need to get a grip on solving the problems with the Bloods, Crips, Mongols, Aryan Brotherhood, Gangster Disciples, Vagos, Trinitarios etc etc. But American thugs good, foreign thugs bad, Shootings by white christian Americans OK, shootings by an American muslim - Jihad. Please, build the wall, I will donate to a crowd funding page, I will even start it, but just go all the way around.

[Slip]

31 minutes ago, Andaman Al said:

I think before you concern yourself with MS13 ya'll need to get a grip on solving the problems with the Bloods, Crips, Mongols, Aryan Brotherhood, Gangster Disciples, Vagos, Trinitarios etc etc. But American thugs good, foreign thugs bad, Shootings by white christian Americans OK, shootings by an American muslim - Jihad. Please, build the wall, I will donate to a crowd funding page, I will even start it, but just go all the way around.

I reckon the Canadians will pay for the top bit.

[morrobay]

34 minutes ago, Andaman Al said:

I think before you concern yourself with MS13 ya'll need to get a grip on solving the problems with the Bloods, Crips, Mongols, Aryan Brotherhood, Gangster Disciples, Vagos, Trinitarios etc etc. But American thugs good, foreign thugs bad, Shootings by white christian Americans OK, shootings by an American muslim - Jihad. Please, build the wall, I will donate to a crowd funding page, I will even start it, but just go all the way around.

Sure all of the above should be raided searched and arrested - on mear suspician. However the liberal system seems to value their civil rights more than public safety. 

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, morrobay said:

Sure all of the above should be raided searched and arrested - on mear suspician. However the liberal system seems to value their civil rights more than public safety. 

Ok, now you're just making stuff up, or drawing from you memories of Clint Eastwood's "Dirty Harry" movies.

[Jingthing]

Why we fight

 

"trump"

 

 

"America First, America Hated, America Alone

 

...

No doubt just what Trump intends: the collapse of the liberal international order, both in its animating commitment to open societies as well as its defining international institutions — the G-7, NATO, the European Union, the World Trade Organization. Seen in this light, the president’s wretched behavior isn’t — or isn’t merely — the product of a defective personality. It’s the result of a willful ideology."

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/13/opinion/america-first-america-hated-america-alone.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

 

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[Scott]

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[Opl]

"Trump has stockpiled cash for his reelection .The president’s campaign has $33 million in the bank so far, plus millions more through joint fundraising committees. 

Trump was the first president in history to file for reelection shortly after entering the White House and to create a campaign account. "

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/15/trump-money-reelection-2020-722413

 

Edited July 16, 2018 by Opl

[Skywalker69]

Top Republicans in Congress break with Trump over Putin comments

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/16/politics/congress-reaction-trump-putin-comments/index.html

 

 

[Skywalker69]

Russian trolls on Twitter pose as ex-Democrats for #WalkAway movement

 

https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/russian-trolls-walkaway-movement/

[Credo]

Now the latest Trump brain fart:

 

Trump administration now has naturalized citizens in its sights

As if the separation of families at the border and the travel ban were not enough, the Trump administration has a denaturalization initiative that is stoking controversy. A few weeks ago, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) Director L. Francis Cissna told The Associated Press that his agency is hiring dozens of attorneys to form a task force to review the records of people who have become U.S. citizens since 1990, in order to identify people who deliberately lied on their citizenship applications.

 

 

http://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/396923-trump-administration-now-has-naturalized-citizens-in-its-sights

 

I wonder if they can deport Melania for her little fibs about her background.

 

[Silurian]

Thanks to Traitor Trump for pushing lucrative trade deals into other country's hands. The USA loses out yet again under Traitor Trump's idiotic trade policies.

 

EU and Japan sign trade deal covering a third of the world's economy

 

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The dismantling of trade barriers stands in stark contrast to the approach taken by President Donald Trump, who has imposed tariffs on a range of foreign goods and is threatening more action.

 

[Scott]

Troll post and reply removed.  

[lannarebirth]

On 7/12/2018 at 9:28 PM, heybruce said:

So the DJIA is important to you?  You must have been thrilled with Obama.

The DJIA fell about 50% in the year preceding Obama's presidency. About 5 standard deviations from the norm. Valuations became out of whack given likely risks. Tell me how Obama had anything to do with that.

[bristolboy]

4 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

The DJIA fell about 50% in the year preceding Obama's presidency. About 5 standard deviations from the norm. Valuations became out of whack given likely risks. Tell me how Obama had anything to do with that.

Tell us how much any president has to do with the stock market's performance.

And for that matter, tell us how much the stock market's performance reflects what's going on in the actual economy and how much it affects the financial situation of most Americans.

[riclag]

 

Fed Reserve chief Powell ,backs more rate hikes as economy growing 'considerably stronger'

 

 

"Federal reserve head Powell, painted a largely positive picture of the economy, which he said is expanding at an increasing pace and is being boosted by aggressive fiscal policy on Capitol Hill".

"Robust job gains, rising after-tax incomes, and optimism among households have lifted consumer spending in recent months. Investment by businesses has continued to grow at a healthy rate," he said. 

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/17/powell-backs-more-rate-hikes-as-economy-growing-considerably-stronger.html

Record low unemployment,anticipated to fall even lower!

The economy  was hurting prior to the election ,it's growing since the election .This is why most people voted for PT.To win again with jobs,jobs,jobs.

 

Edited July 18, 2018 by riclag

[Ramen087]

Want him to finish this term? Of course. It's a lock, really. Impeachment hasn't been discussed by any government officials for months. Trump is doing a fine job. Economy looks good. Relationship with Israel back on track. Engagement with adversaries via diplomacy. And a plan to run in 2020 underway with 88 million in finance.  https://www.newsweek.com/trump-amasses-88-million-war-chest-ahead-2020-presidential-campaign-1026147

[lannarebirth]

Winning!

 

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/white-house-makes-trillion-dollar-205110561.html

[attrayant]

17 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

Want him to finish this term? Of course. It's a lock, really. Impeachment hasn't been discussed by any government officials for months.

 

That's great.  Put your money where your mouth is and you're sure to be a big winner:

 

UK gamblers betting on Trump's impeachment before the end of the year

 

"President Trump is an odds-on favorite — for impeachment.

Irish bookmaker Paddy Power says the betting has suddenly gone from 8/1 for the President’s ouster to 2/1, and the touts are saying it’ll happen sooner rather than later.

The line on the President’s removal this year, rather than next, dropped from 12/1 to 2/1."

 

 

17 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

Trump is doing a fine job. Economy looks good.

 

Worker wages drop while companies spend billions to boost stocks

 

"Worker pay in the second quarter dropped nearly one percent below its first-quarter level, according to the PayScale Index, one measure of worker pay. When accounting for inflation, the drop is even steeper. Year-over-year, rising prices have eaten up still-modest pay gains for many workers, with the result that real wages fell 1.4 percent from the prior year, according to PayScale. The drop was broad, with 80 percent of industries and two-thirds of metro areas affected."

 

 

17 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

Relationship with Israel back on track. Engagement with adversaries via diplomacy. And a plan to run in 2020 underway with 88 million in finance.  https://www.newsweek.com/trump-amasses-88-million-war-chest-ahead-2020-presidential-campaign-1026147

 

If the 2020 presidential election were held today, Republican Donald Trump would fall to any Democrat in the potential field and lose out on a second term, according to a new poll released Wednesday morning.

 

That was two months ago, though.  I'm sure a similar poll would be different now, after his vaudevillian act at Helsinki.

[bristolboy]

58 minutes ago, riclag said:

 

The economy  was hurting prior to the election ,it's growing since the election .This is why most people voted for PT.To win again with jobs,jobs,jobs.

 

False.

Obama’s Final Numbers

•  The unemployment rate dropped to below the historical norm.
• Average weekly earnings for all workers were up 4.0 percent after inflation. 
• After-tax corporate profits also set records, as did stock prices. 

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/09/obamas-final-numbers/

[bristolboy]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

 

Fed Reserve chief Powell ,backs more rate hikes as economy growing 'considerably stronger'

 

 

"Federal reserve head Powell, painted a largely positive picture of the economy, which he said is expanding at an increasing pace and is being boosted by aggressive fiscal policy on Capitol Hill".

"Robust job gains, rising after-tax incomes, and optimism among households have lifted consumer spending in recent months. Investment by businesses has continued to grow at a healthy rate," he said. 

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/17/powell-backs-more-rate-hikes-as-economy-growing-considerably-stronger.html

Record low unemployment,anticipated to fall even lower!

The economy  was hurting prior to the election ,it's growing since the election .This is why most people voted for PT.To win again with jobs,jobs,jobs.

 

And how much of that do you think is owed to massive deficit spending. In a time when the economy is strong and deficit spending should be reduced. Republicans use the phrase "Tax and Spend Democrats." For them it should be "Spend & Spend Republicans."

[bristolboy]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

 

Fed Reserve chief Powell ,backs more rate hikes as economy growing 'considerably stronger'

 

 

"Federal reserve head Powell, painted a largely positive picture of the economy, which he said is expanding at an increasing pace and is being boosted by aggressive fiscal policy on Capitol Hill".

"Robust job gains, rising after-tax incomes, and optimism among households have lifted consumer spending in recent months. Investment by businesses has continued to grow at a healthy rate," he said. 

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/17/powell-backs-more-rate-hikes-as-economy-growing-considerably-stronger.html

Record low unemployment,anticipated to fall even lower!

The economy  was hurting prior to the election ,it's growing since the election .This is why most people voted for PT.To win again with jobs,jobs,jobs.

 

And I think it's sad you accept those unemployment numbers when their dishonesty has been so effectively proven by a certain party:

"In fact, Trump has called the unemployment figure “fake” as many as 19 times before he embraced the numbers as president. And, nearly a year ago, we gave Trump Four Pinocchios for claiming “the unemployment figure, as you know, is totally fiction,” during a rally in Des Moines."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/12/14/comparing-the-trump-economy-to-the-obama-economy/?utm_term=.5b950d5ca0c7

 

Or are you calling Donald Trump a liar?