Recommended sliding or bi-fold doors

[Astounding]

Hello I have a living room area opening up onto an outside covered pool area that I need doors for. The rough measurements are 15 meters wide, split into three sections (posts between) and three meters high.

I am particularly interested in bifolding doors and would be keen to hear of the experience of others here. I have been recommended to the company Sunparadise, but would be interested to hear of other recommended companies.

really appreciate any input

thanks

[AJBangkok]

Sun paradise is the most expensive firm out there but they do have a quality product. I used Sun paradise for the renovation of my Bangkok condo several years ago and I paid around 18k per sq meter. I have both sliding and bifold doors. They are faultless but I could have got similar quality at around 40% lower.

 

I recently completed a house in HH and I used a company called Prime Asia. For that house I used UPVC instead of aluminum and the quality is fantastic. Prime Asia imported some special swing and slide windows from the US for me to breach a 7m and five 4 meter gaps to my outside decks. The windows are better than my sun paradise windows and my average price per square meter for the entire house was around 11k per square meter. I have over 200sqm of Windows in total.

 

Prime Asia took some video of my house windows for marketing 

 

 

I currently renovating a couple of condos in Bangkok and I am going to use Prime Asia for the windows in both. These will be aluminum As Prime Asia do both and last week the guy bought the profiles over to my Bangkok condo to see. He immediately spotted the sun paradise windows and then proceeded to compare his profiles with theirs. Basically they were pretty much the same.

 

I’m not sure where you are located but personally I would choose them over Sun Paradise as I am now doing as they use quality products and do a quality job and they are 40 odd % cheaper depending on the windows you want. I should also clarify my average cost in HH included other types of windows so the swing and slide windows were more but other windows were less.

 

 

 

 

[KittenKong]

The quote I got from PA for aluminium was around 18kB/sqm. Seems high to me as this was not any sort of special bi-folding door, just regular sliding patio doors, though they did intend to import them whole from Europe rather than build them here, so maybe there was more to it than was apparent. I wonder what your cost for aluminium will be?
I also expect the cost per sqm to be lower for large windows, for obvious reasons, but this doesnt seem to apply here.

I've lived here a long time and I know full well that most imported items cost an arm and a leg (and often a bit of spine) but the prices asked for windows still seem ridiculous to me. I could get an entire house done in Europe for the price of two windows here.
Local aluminium windows would be under one fifth the price, though of course the quality would not be the same.

[AJBangkok]

Prime Asia have 2 types of aluminum windows 1 fully imported from Germany and one they fabricate locally but import some fittings from Italy. I am getting the Aluminum they fabricate locally for the 2 condos I am renovating.  The guy bought the profiles to my condo and I did not see much difference between them and the sun paradise profiles that I have at my condo. The quote is somewhere between 9 and 10k per m2 

 

I did look at other aluminum fabricators from a local company that charged 4-5k per Sam and another company called Aluzat which were pretty good that charges similar to PA. 

 

[KittenKong]

Ah. PA only offered me one option: imported with a long delay and a high price. It was a while ago and maybe the situation has changed. I will get back to them. Their "quote" was particularly uninformative being limited to only a price with no detail of the product, or the practicalities of installation, or what was or wasn't included, or indeed anything else at all. I dont like that.

Aluzat are a joke. They have two email addresses on their website. One simply does not exist and you get no reply from the other. When telephoned they promise to get back to you but they dont. They cant even tell you when is a suitable day/time to visit their office to discuss a possible purchase. I would not entrust them with any sort of task, no matter how simple.

Even after 40 years in Thailand I am constantly amazed by the inability of Thai businesses to communicate the most basic information.

I wonder what those 4-5kB/sqm products were like? That is about what local manufacturers quoted me, but I found their products were much too flimsy to be used for anything other than shower cubicles or perhaps internal doors.

[Astounding]

I contacted Prime Asia and they quoted me just over 11,000 per meter plus delivery, that’s 440000 for 15 meters and 2.4 meters high for their swing and slide door as quoted in the video that AJ posted.

I will have to look into the cost of delivery to Koh Phangan Plus fitting costs, sounds good interesting though.

[AJBangkok]

9 hours ago, Astounding said:

I contacted Prime Asia and they quoted me just over 11,000 per meter plus delivery, that’s 440000 for 15 meters and 2.4 meters high for their swing and slide door as quoted in the video that AJ posted.

I will have to look into the cost of delivery to Koh Phangan Plus fitting costs, sounds good interesting though.

That’s a good price for those doors. Fitting should cost around 10%. My average price for all types of windows was around 11k per m2 so the swing and slide were higher. I’m not sure what I paid but probably around 13k +. The quality of the swing and slide is hands down way better than anything i’ve seen in Thailand. They are hurricane rated in the states and were actually cheaper that regular UPVC bifold doors. I’m not sure how they do that but I think the supplier in the US may be giving them a discount as they want to introduce the product to Asia. My windows were the first installed in Thailand and the US supplier send a couple of technicians over to oversee the installation with Prime Asia.

[Astounding]

That’s great, I will keep you updated, cheers

[Cashboy]

I would never buy bi fold doors.

Dependent a lot on the top structure.

They always have problems and are very expensive.

Go for sliding patio doors every time.

 

[Astounding]

On 08/02/2018 at 7:36 AM, Cashboy said:

I would never buy bi fold doors.

Dependent a lot on the top structure.

They always have problems and are very expensive.

Go for sliding patio doors every time.

 

Did you look at the ones recommended here?

[Astounding]

Actually having watched the video from PrimeAsia again, I do wonder how suitable these doors are for a rental unit. 

It seems like there is a knack to using them and I can’t expect tenants in my house for a week to know what to do.

i actually had simpler bifolding doors in mind, anyone have any ideas?

[AJBangkok]

They are simple to use just slide them and turn them but if you want bi-fold PA can do them for you as well. 

[Cashboy]

On 2/12/2018 at 3:42 PM, Astounding said:

Did you look at the ones recommended here?

I confess that I did not look at them.

I am an accountant with two clients that install and fix replacement windows and doors.

Too many moving parts; dependent on support (lintel) above the door.

Sold on the basis of TV programs with opening up the room into the garden.

You cannot beat a sliding patio door.  Simple to open. few moving parts except the wheels on the floor it runs on.

My opinion !