Major drinking water manufacturers agree to use less plastic

[webfact]

Major drinking water manufacturers agree to use less plastic

 

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BANGKOK, 14th February 2018 (NNT) - Government agencies and the private sector have signed an agreement to stop using plastic film covering water bottle caps in an effort to reduce plastic garbage on land and sea. 

Permanent Secretary for Natural Resources and the Environment Wichan Simachaya, presided on Tuesday over the signing of the agreement between the Pollution Control Department, the Department of Environmental Quality Promotion, the FDA, the Office of The Consumer Protection Board, the Thai Beverage Industry Association, the Thai Retailers Association, the Thai Plastic Industries Association and the Plastics Institute of Thailand. 

According to the ministry, Thailand produces around 2.6 billion plastic water bottles a year. Lightweight plastic covering water bottle caps poses a threat to the environment on land and at sea since it does not decompose. 

Five major drinking water manufacturers have agreed to stop using the plastic to cover water bottle caps from 1st April this year. After that, the ministry will urge other companies to follow suit.

 

-- nnt 2018-02-14

[mikebell]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Major drinking water manufacturers agree to use less plastic

How do they make water out of plastic.  South Africa would love to know.

[Thian]

When i  buy 2 banana's in 711 each one is packed in a plastic bag and together they are in a big plastic bag.

 

When i buy some yoghurt the 4 plastic cups are sealed in plastic (with free plastic spoons packed in plastic) and they all go in a plastic bag.

 

When i buy a plastic bottle of milk i get 2 plastic bags to carry it home.

 

Thailand  is addicted to plastic.

[mjnaus]

2 minutes ago, Thian said:

When i  buy 2 banana's in 711 each one is packed in a plastic bag and together they are in a big plastic bag.

 

When i buy some yoghurt the 4 plastic cups are sealed in plastic (with free plastic spoons packed in plastic) and they all go in a plastic bag.

 

When i buy a plastic bottle of milk i get 2 plastic bags to carry it home.

 

Thailand  is addicted to plastic.

 

So how about bringing your own shopping bag and telling the store clerk to leave the plastic bag? Been doing it for years; it's not rocket science...

[bluesofa]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

lightweight plastic covering water bottle caps.

I think there should be a comma in there to make it clearer:

"lightweight plastic, covering water bottle caps."

 

However, the main reason for my post. Wasn't this exact same subject in the news over six months ago?

Why does it seem to be re-hashed again?

[wakeupplease]

They only sell water to sell the beers, nuff said

[Darcula]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

from 1st April this year

 

A lot of succesful projects have been launched on this date.

 

[arithai12]

The plastic film around the caps? Sure. But how about selling bigger containers? Several brands of mineral water (not purified) that we used to buy used to come in a 5 or 6 liter big bottle, but since months we can only find the 6x1.5L packs. That's a lot of unnecessary garbage.

[arithai12]

46 minutes ago, mjnaus said:

 

So how about bringing your own shopping bag and telling the store clerk to leave the plastic bag? Been doing it for years; it's not rocket science...

And also, when I don't have my own shopping bag with me, I can still tell them to minimize the number of plastic bags.

[Thian]

46 minutes ago, mjnaus said:

 

So how about bringing your own shopping bag and telling the store clerk to leave the plastic bag? Been doing it for years; it's not rocket science...

They don't speak english and the plastic bag shows that you paid for you goods....without the bag it looks like you stole it.

 

If all customers refused the bag it's very hard for the staff to determine who has paid and who didn't. It can be pretty busy in the 711 with people walking in/out....

[PoorSucker]

I already only buy brands that don't have the plastic cover. 

Always tell that I don't want plastic bag or straw at 7-11. 

"Mai aou thung" = don't want bag. 

 

Do your part, it's not that hard. 

[alex8912]

26 minutes ago, Thian said:

They don't speak english and the plastic bag shows that you paid for you goods....without the bag it looks like you stole it.

 

If all customers refused the bag it's very hard for the staff to determine who has paid and who didn't. It can be pretty busy in the 711 with people walking in/out....

Pretty lame and confusing post there buddy.  First off have you even considered learning how to say " no bag"  Mai aou thung  khrap. or " one bag only" in Thai? Takes about 5 minutes of practice even for a dinosaur.   You could even just simply say "mai pen rai khrap" the second they touch a bag or straw or spoon and they will put it down 99% of the time.  The part about the bag proving you pay is quite funny. There is a thing called a receipt ( which could be considered wasteful but is always available to prove you paid) also in MY world of 7/11's the cashiers are next to the exit doors but in yours they sound like they are in the back of the store lol. Do you really think some cashier is going to accuse some falang that they did not pay for something right after you paid? 

Edited February 14, 2018 by alex8912

[anon789561]

30 minutes ago, arithai12 said:

The plastic film around the caps? Sure. But how about selling bigger containers? Several brands of mineral water (not purified) that we used to buy used to come in a 5 or 6 liter big bottle, but since months we can only find the 6x1.5L packs. That's a lot of unnecessary garbage.

you can still buy the bigger bottles. some prefer the smaller packs as they fit in the fridge easier etc. anyway. why not just let all your plastic bottles and other plastic crap, (once cleaned out if food containers etc) gather then when you have a load, say a large black bin bag, take them to your local recycling place. they'll even give you a few baht for them

Edited February 14, 2018 by Happy enough

[BEngBKK]

Most countries solved this problem by charging (deposit) for the plastic/glass  bottle so the bottle/plastic got value for the user.



Maybe in Thailand version 38.0 in 20 years

P.s

7-11 do not force me to use a plastic bag. I just say "Mai aw krap"

Edited February 14, 2018 by BEngBKK

[anon789561]

1 minute ago, BEngBKK said:

Most countries solved this problem by charging (deposit) for the plastic/glass  bottle so the bottle/plastic got value for the user.



Maybe in Thailand version 38.0 in 20 years

you can sell plastic at your local recycling place right now, no need to wait 20 years. 

**and your old glass bottles

Edited February 14, 2018 by Happy enough
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[mjnaus]

37 minutes ago, Thian said:

They don't speak english and the plastic bag shows that you paid for you goods....without the bag it looks like you stole it.

 

If all customers refused the bag it's very hard for the staff to determine who has paid and who didn't. It can be pretty busy in the 711 with people walking in/out....

 

Sounds like a rather lame excuse to simply not bother. It'll take you literally 10 minutes to learn how to say this in Thai. As I have been shopping like this, with my own bag, for close to 14 years and have NEVER had any issues with it. How about showing the receipt when they think you stole your groceries?

Edited February 14, 2018 by mjnaus

[Thian]

4 minutes ago, alex8912 said:

Pretty lame and confusing post there buddy.  First off have you even considered learning how to say " no bag" or " one bag only" in Thai? Takes about 5 minutes of practice even for a dinosaur.   You could even just simply say "mai pen rai khrap" the second they touch a bag or straw or spoon and they will put it down 99% of the time.  The part about the bag proving you pay is quite funny. There is a thing called a receipt ( which could be considered wasteful but is always available to prove you paid) also in MY world of 7/11's the cashiers are next to the exit doors but in yours they sound like they are in the back of the store lol. Do you really think some cashier is going to accuse some falang that they did not pay for something right after you paid? 

Get of your high horse cowboy.

I've tried the mai au tung krab several times, have to say it 5 times before they understand it.

And since there are several criminal farang in thailand i don't even want to look like them in the farest distance. If all people use a plastic bag than so will i.

I go to 711 on the motobike for things like milk/yoghurt/bananas/cigarettes and i can easy transport them in topcase but without a plastic bag i look suspicious to the Benz-drivers who parked next to me.

They already think i'm crazy to not go to 711 by car like they all do.

And at home i dress simple clothes, also when i go to 711 so yes i might look like a criminal farang in the eyes of the thai living around me. That's why i take the plastic bags, it just shows that i paid for my goods and am not a criminal farang.

 

Now i could bring my backpack (have loads of them) to 711 but farang with backpacks are drugdealers in some area's of BKK and since nobody carries a backpack (except students) i would look stupid again.

 

The receipt is the first thing i  dump in the bin when i walk out of the 711, don't want to bring that home where it will drop on the floor so i have to pick it up.

[arithai12]

9 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

you can still buy the bigger bottles. some prefer the smaller packs as they fit in the fridge easier etc. anyway. why not just let all your plastic bottles and other plastic crap, (once cleaned out if food containers etc) gather then when you have a load, say a large black bin bag, take them to your local recycling place. they'll even give you a few baht for them

At least in Chiang Mai, the big containers have disappeared from all major supermarkets since months. I am talking about the mineral water. The reverse-osmosis purified water is still available in big ones.

[alex8912]

11 minutes ago, Thian said:

Get of your high horse cowboy.

I've tried the mai au tung krab several times, have to say it 5 times before they understand it.

And since there are several criminal farang in thailand i don't even want to look like them in the farest distance. If all people use a plastic bag than so will i.

I go to 711 on the motobike for things like milk/yoghurt/bananas/cigarettes and i can easy transport them in topcase but without a plastic bag i look suspicious to the Benz-drivers who parked next to me.

They already think i'm crazy to not go to 711 by car like they all do.

And at home i dress simple clothes, also when i go to 711 so yes i might look like a criminal farang in the eyes of the thai living around me. That's why i take the plastic bags, it just shows that i paid for my goods and am not a criminal farang.

 

Now i could bring my backpack (have loads of them) to 711 but farang with backpacks are drugdealers in some area's of BKK and since nobody carries a backpack (except students) i would look stupid again.

 

The receipt is the first thing i  dump in the bin when i walk out of the 711, don't want to bring that home where it will drop on the floor so i have to pick it up.

Omg there are def other issues troubling you! I have lived in BKK for years and years and no one especially Thais in Benz's are watching me. Backpacks = drug dealers??  Is this a wind up!!!  Also why do you have to bring the receipt home?  Let me guess the bad guys are following you!  Also wouldn't an experienced criminal actually use a bag they brought into the store to put the stuff they are stealing ?? Ever think of that??

Edited February 14, 2018 by alex8912

[Lemonltr]

14 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

you can still buy the bigger bottles. some prefer the smaller packs as they fit in the fridge easier etc. anyway. why not just let all your plastic bottles and other plastic crap, (once cleaned out if food containers etc) gather then when you have a load, say a large black bin bag, take them to your local recycling place. they'll even give you a few baht for them

For many years now I have bought the large 6 litre bottles as they have a handle and so easy to carry.  I keep 3 -1 1/2 litre bottles in the fridge and use a funnel to fill.

People who gather waste are pleased to get these but my neighbours always wanted them saying they were handy for carrying water to the rice fields when working.

[anon789561]

8 minutes ago, arithai12 said:

At least in Chiang Mai, the big containers have disappeared from all major supermarkets since months. I am talking about the mineral water. The reverse-osmosis purified water is still available in big ones.

haven't been up there in years so wouldn't know. the point is that a lot of people moan about the plastic and say it's all waste blah blah and don't even bother to take their own waste to get recycled. the bottles made in thailand for sale in thailand have the recycling logo on them for a reason. if people choose to ignore them, the binmen will usually do their best to fish them out of the rubbish on their rounds. when i was in bangkok i used to give them to one of the security guards, they'd take them to the recyling place, the money wasn't worth it to me but for him, he actually appreciated it

Edited February 14, 2018 by Happy enough

[ratcatcher]

55 minutes ago, wakeupplease said:

They only sell water to sell the beers, nuff said

You didn't really say e nuff. There are dozens of brands of bottled water available across Thailand. The two major breweries, Chang, Singha also make soda water and that also helps them sell beer, but Nestle and the others sell it because of customer demand.

[Thian]

19 minutes ago, alex8912 said:

 I have lived in BKK for years and years and no one especially Thais in Benz's are watching me

I sure believe that since they don't live in the slums

[mjnaus]

23 minutes ago, Thian said:

Get of your high horse cowboy.

I've tried the mai au tung krab several times, have to say it 5 times before they understand it.

And since there are several criminal farang in thailand i don't even want to look like them in the farest distance. If all people use a plastic bag than so will i.

I go to 711 on the motobike for things like milk/yoghurt/bananas/cigarettes and i can easy transport them in topcase but without a plastic bag i look suspicious to the Benz-drivers who parked next to me.

They already think i'm crazy to not go to 711 by car like they all do.

And at home i dress simple clothes, also when i go to 711 so yes i might look like a criminal farang in the eyes of the thai living around me. That's why i take the plastic bags, it just shows that i paid for my goods and am not a criminal farang.

 

Now i could bring my backpack (have loads of them) to 711 but farang with backpacks are drugdealers in some area's of BKK and since nobody carries a backpack (except students) i would look stupid again.

 

The receipt is the first thing i  dump in the bin when i walk out of the 711, don't want to bring that home where it will drop on the floor so i have to pick it up.

 

Congratulations on the decision to remain part of the problem rather than contributing to the solution. I guess even the idea of putting in even a sliver of effort to make the world a better place is to much to ask for certain people. 

[ebonykap]

If your friendly 7-11 cashier doesn't understand "Mai ow tung" (not take bag), try saying "Mai sai tung" (not put in bag). It's the Thai way 

[jak2002003]

36 minutes ago, Thian said:

Get of your high horse cowboy.

I've tried the mai au tung krab several times, have to say it 5 times before they understand it.

And since there are several criminal farang in thailand i don't even want to look like them in the farest distance. If all people use a plastic bag than so will i.

I go to 711 on the motobike for things like milk/yoghurt/bananas/cigarettes and i can easy transport them in topcase but without a plastic bag i look suspicious to the Benz-drivers who parked next to me.

They already think i'm crazy to not go to 711 by car like they all do.

And at home i dress simple clothes, also when i go to 711 so yes i might look like a criminal farang in the eyes of the thai living around me. That's why i take the plastic bags, it just shows that i paid for my goods and am not a criminal farang.

 

Now i could bring my backpack (have loads of them) to 711 but farang with backpacks are drugdealers in some area's of BKK and since nobody carries a backpack (except students) i would look stupid again.

 

The receipt is the first thing i  dump in the bin when i walk out of the 711, don't want to bring that home where it will drop on the floor so i have to pick it up.

I am so sorry for you, honestly, you seem to have a lot of issues and paranoia going on in your life... I really mean this in a kind way.. I am not trying to be nasty.

 

Do you really believe this is true...........

 

You are incapable to learn to say the simple phrase 'no bag' in Thai 

People will think you are a criminal if you don't have a plastic bag

Everyone thinks you are crazy because you walk to the shop and don't go in a car

People think you are a criminal because you wear simple clothes

You are drug dealer if you carry a back pack

You don't want to take a receipt home in case you have to pick it up off the floor?

 

You know you can buy bananas cheaper and more delicious from the market.. and they are not wrapped in thick plastic bags?

 

If you take you own bag / backpack you can also easily carry your shopping home.

 

Believe me, people won't think you are a mad crazy drug dealer, stealing bananas from 7/11.  And if you worry your simple clothes make you look like a thief, then perhaps try wearing some clothes you will feel more comfortable in when out in public.  

 

[StayinThailand2much]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Major drinking water manufacturers agree to use less plastic

Let me guess: smaller bottles, same price?? 

[maximillian]

Why delay a simple decision for another month ? 

Do it today, tomorrow, best you did it yesterday.

Oh, I see, you have to buy new machinery and train the staff just to leave that tiny little plastic thing away. Thailand...

[Benmart]

2 hours ago, mjnaus said:

 

So how about bringing your own shopping bag and telling the store clerk to leave the plastic bag? Been doing it for years; it's not rocket science...

My foldup shopping bag goes in my manbag. "Mai sai tung kap" always works.

[scorecard]

2 hours ago, Thian said:

They don't speak english and the plastic bag shows that you paid for you goods....without the bag it looks like you stole it.

 

If all customers refused the bag it's very hard for the staff to determine who has paid and who didn't. It can be pretty busy in the 711 with people walking in/out....

 

Many farang customers all day / every day buy at the 7 near me, 90% of them say 'mai ou' to the bag, and the staff know mostly which farang reject the bag, the staff cope with this easily. 

 

Also nowadays many Thai customers (at this store) are following the same approach.

 

 

Edited February 14, 2018 by scorecard