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Pattaya bar fight: Key witness says Australian man beaten to death over “misunderstanding”

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2 hours ago, gordon g said:

Jose Polanco has been given a two year jail sentence by the Pattaya court. FULLY suspended.

 

Obviously Ben's friends are disappointed with the verdict, especially considering he was previously convicted of murder in the US where he was sentenced to 12 years prison for murder, before having his sentence reduced to only 2 years.  That murder was over a dispute over 20USD. Jose spent 3 nights locked up for killing Ben. There were no prosecution witnesses at court.

 

Jose is required to stay in Thailand until the sentence expires, so has been given a visa for that period.

 

We heard that legal "costs" totalled 600,000 baht, of which none went to Ben's family as often happens in Thailand.

 

If the Darkside Dog could use his court\jail contacts to confirm this result to the members it would be very much appreciated. There are lot of mistruths and speculation in these threads that are not helpful.

 

Jose is residing in Pattaya and was seen in Soi 6 again last week. Despite not having a job, he does not appear to be struggling financially. He may have an export business that provides muscle growth products.

I went to the bar where it happened, all the witnesses said the deceased was acting like a complete ahole not just there, but on the whole soi for most of the night, disturbing the girls etc. He provoked the attack, obviously doesn't warrant death, but rule one in Thailand, don't act like an Ahole, as there are even greater ones lurking in the darkness. 

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  • He 'misunderstands' and dishes out very severe, and fatal, punishment to the victim. Let's hope the judge 'misunderstands' when passing sentence, and also dishes out very severe punishment.

  • Which person with a brain would intervene unasked in a supposed "attack" to a working girl in a bar? Isn't it crystal clear that bar staff/bouncers would be there in an instant to take care?

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    It just goes to show you should never poke your nose in to something, unless you are 100% sure of what is actually happening. It was bad enough already, without it turning out to be a misunderstanding

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5 hours ago, gordon g said:

 

Jose is residing in Pattaya and was seen in Soi 6 again last week. Despite not having a job, he does not appear to be struggling financially. He may have an export business that provides muscle growth products. 

If he has any customers in the US then the DEA will be very interested in this.

 

There are DEA Thailand staff attached to the US Embassy in Bangkok.

 

Here are their contact details : https://th.usembassy.gov/embassy-consulate/bangkok/us-agencies/drug-enforcement-administration-dea/

 

 

Someone should frame him so he can get deported , 2 murders already and almost no time in prison, that is crazy.

37 minutes ago, gordon g said:

the police, who are already on his side

You joined this forum yesterday, and know all about this case ... tell us more ?

22 minutes ago, CH1961 said:

You joined this forum yesterday, and know all about this case ... tell us more ?

Doesnt mean anything, I would do the same and open another account if I had information to share about a dangerous criminal. You have to be careful with these people .

On 2/16/2018 at 7:39 PM, mercman24 said:

anyone else thinks this information about the girl turning BLUE  is a total fabrication, on the part of the attacker to justify this horrendous assault, i have never ever seen anyone turning BLUE , RED yes 

This bar does have neon red and blue lighting, so may be a trick of the light.

On 8/21/2018 at 2:12 PM, JHolmesJr said:

This bar does have neon red and blue lighting, so may be a trick of the light.

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On 2/14/2018 at 4:07 PM, darksidedog said:

It just goes to show you should never poke your nose in to something, unless you are 100% sure of what is actually happening. 

Never a truer word has been spoken.

11 hours ago, Pete1980 said:

Never a truer word has been spoken.

better still,

dont even go there

On 8/20/2018 at 5:50 PM, balo said:

Someone should frame him so he can get deported , 2 murders already and almost no time in prison, that is crazy.

money talks here

Good guys out buffed dudes stay

 

On 2/14/2018 at 8:11 PM, watcharacters said:

 

 

Has the arrested suspect spoken out yet about the events in the bar on the day of Mr. Robb's death?

 

 

 

Which isn't interesting at all.

He killed, again.

Put him away for the remainder of his miserable life.

On 9/7/2018 at 6:09 PM, catman20 said:

better still,

dont even go there

Where? The bar? Soi 6? Pattaya? Thailand?

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Now the perp picked up the Thai girl by the throat raised her up from the floor and her face was turning blue. An American sees this and intervenes quickly to prevent the Thai girl from being choked. He steps in and gives the perp an A55 beating that unfortunately causes the death of the perp. My question is, how many of TV readers would do the same? Are you carrying your Man Card on you?  Or would you just sit on your stool, sip on your beer and not get up and do something? I definitely would get the perp to knock it off. I would not give him an A55 beating that results in his death. However he would have second thoughts about what happened to him just in case he decided to try it again. 

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19 minutes ago, SinCityGr8One said:

Now the perp picked up the Thai girl by the throat raised her up from the floor and her face was turning blue. An American sees this and intervenes quickly to prevent the Thai girl from being choked. He steps in and gives the perp an A55 beating that unfortunately causes the death of the perp. My question is, how many of TV readers would do the same? Are you carrying your Man Card on you?  Or would you just sit on your stool, sip on your beer and not get up and do something? I definitely would get the perp to knock it off. I would not give him an A55 beating that results in his death. However he would have second thoughts about what happened to him just in case he decided to try it again. 

Have you actually read the OP ?

Or at least the headline, just to get a clue.

12 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

Have you actually read the OP ?

Or at least the headline, just to get a clue.

Yes, I have a strong command of the English language. What point are you attempting to make? Perhaps, just perhaps you have interpreted the story different than I have.

 

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9 hours ago, SinCityGr8One said:

Yes, I have a strong command of the English language. What point are you attempting to make? Perhaps, just perhaps you have interpreted the story different than I have.

 

The point is, there was no danger for the woman involved, and the American guy overreacted.

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On 10/3/2018 at 8:29 PM, SinCityGr8One said:

Now the perp picked up the Thai girl by the throat raised her up from the floor and her face was turning blue. An American sees this and intervenes quickly to prevent the Thai girl from being choked. He steps in and gives the perp an A55 beating that unfortunately causes the death of the perp. My question is, how many of TV readers would do the same? Are you carrying your Man Card on you?  Or would you just sit on your stool, sip on your beer and not get up and do something? I definitely would get the perp to knock it off. I would not give him an A55 beating that results in his death. However he would have second thoughts about what happened to him just in case he decided to try it again. 

 

    That was the version that the defendants group stated .

The Woman in question stated that herself and him were just playing around and he didnt harm her and nothing was serious and her face wasnt "turning blue".

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On 10/4/2018 at 6:35 AM, mauGR1 said:

The point is, there was no danger for the woman involved, and the American guy overreacted.

that is a big fat lie. 

3 minutes ago, Mike West said:

that is a big fat lie. 

Were you there ?

I don't say that the waitress version is gospel, still one may think that she's a neutral witness.

2 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

Were you there ?

I don't say that the waitress version is gospel, still one may think that she's a neutral witness.

I am not answering the first part, but people lie for many reasons. (I'm sure you know that) 

2 minutes ago, Mike West said:

I am not answering the first part, but people lie for many reasons. (I'm sure you know that) 

Fair enough.

But if you want to expose a liar, i think you should say at least why you say so.

7 hours ago, mauGR1 said:

Fair enough.

But if you want to expose a liar, i think you should say at least why you say so.

cause i have inside information of that night, I don't want to expose anyone, just the truth to be told. 

On 10/3/2018 at 2:29 PM, SinCityGr8One said:

Now the perp picked up the Thai girl by the throat raised her up from the floor and her face was turning blue. An American sees this and intervenes quickly to prevent the Thai girl from being choked. He steps in and gives the perp an A55 beating that unfortunately causes the death of the perp. My question is, how many of TV readers would do the same? Are you carrying your Man Card on you?  Or would you just sit on your stool, sip on your beer and not get up and do something? I definitely would get the perp to knock it off. I would not give him an A55 beating that results in his death. However he would have second thoughts about what happened to him just in case he decided to try it again. 

not your job to intervene.  On such situations the  staff  girls,  security all have the situation under control. 

8 minutes ago, Mike West said:

cause i have inside information of that night, I don't want to expose anyone, just the truth to be told. 

As far as i'm concerned, truth is always welcome.

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On 2/23/2018 at 11:33 AM, Mike West said:

I agree, 2 wrongs don't make a right, BUT picking a girl up by the neck? is no fkn joke, I don't care how you put it. I would never do that to anyone smaller than me. You can easily injure someone severely. The guy paid with his life. 

She wasn't complaining or asking for help. The staff new she was ok

 

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8 hours ago, Mike West said:

that is a big fat lie. 

If the girl was in any danger the other girls, service staff and security would have intervened.

It would be great to get follow up posts on some of the more hotly discussed stories at ThaiVisa.

 

1. Where is Jose? Still living large on Soi 6?

 

2. Why havsn’t the victim’s family sued Jose? Wrongful death is a thing in Thailand, and there may be financing available for hiring a lawyer.

 

3. This case seems so contrary to good guys in bad guys out, I wonder what Big Joke thinks of it? Has a reporter asked him at a press conference? Does anyone here know a reporter?

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