Artisi Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Becker said: Are you for ensuring the old elite (of which the leadership of the armed forces is very much a part) is excluded from any future dealings? One step at a time, Thailand is not mature enough handle too big of a change all at once. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, Artisi said: One step at a time, Thailand is not mature enough handle too big of a change all at once. Without them also excluded there won't be any steps at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post owl sees all Posted February 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) There are 1600 Generals in Thailand's army. There are also the equivilant in the Air force and Navy. Just what are they for? It's commonly thought that Thailand couldn't fight their way out of a plastic bag,,,, so just what are they for? To stop any future uprising!? To keep the status-quo. Fear factor! Edited February 18, 2018 by owl sees all 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted February 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2018 34 minutes ago, owl sees all said: That is the point. Taksin and Yin Shin did side with the people. Their support is roughly 75% of Thais. When (if) they sweep to power again the elites and yellows and military just will not have it. Trouble ahead I reckon. 75% of the Thais.. strange they never got those numbers in elections... but I guess you know better. I am not saying that they are not popular.. I am saying your exaggerating. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yougivemebaby Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 8 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said: I think a better way to put it is that those countries do not recognize the validity of the charges against her by the Junta, and the Junta has wisely not pushed the matter or it would lose tremendous face when they were rebuffed. No civilized country in the world would ever extradite Yingluck back to the coup-makers. I will be quite interested to hear what she has to say as there is a huge spectrum of possibilities that could occur; she could make a few polite noises and get on with her life all the way to a full-throated denunciation of the Junta as treasonous criminals and everything in between. I am not really sure what I think would be best (more thought needed). I think there will definitely be some comments on the need to return to Democracy, on the need for the military to go back to the barracks, and for the need of civil liberties to return to Thailand. Beyond that, I am unsure how far she should go. Interesting times... You’re joking right ? Red shirts (the poor) have the majority vote and have for a long time. Democracy will never work in Thailand until the elites (Bangkok hi-so) have their own government. Until that happens, the west will continue to get into Thailand’s business pushing their own agenda on Thailand thinking democracy will fix everything. This is not the West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny2017 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 18 minutes ago, owl sees all said: There are 1600 Generals in Thailand's army. There are also the equivilant in the Air force and Navy. Just what are they for? It's commonly thought that Thailand couldn't fight their way out of a plastic bag,,,, so just what are they for? To stop any future uprising!? To keep the status-quo. Fear factor! You need them to keep up the great educational work that makes the country so unique !! http://www.en.moe.go.th/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2262:lieutenant-general-surachet-chaiwong-deputy-minister-of-education-ministry-of-education-thailand&catid=1:news&Itemid=42 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AGareth2 Posted February 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2018 21 minutes ago, owl sees all said: There are 1600 Generals in Thailand's army. There are also the equivilant in the Air force and Navy. Just what are they for? It's commonly thought that Thailand couldn't fight their way out of a plastic bag,,,, so just what are they for? children's day 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 11 hours ago, rooster59 said: “This is an attempt to signal to her supporters that it’s time to create disturbances at a time when the government’s popularity is on the decline,” Somchai said. Aha! So they KNOW that they ARE getting unpopular! This public admission of the blindingly obvious will not sit well with Papa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnarth Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Interesting seems bad against bad, so where are the goodies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 24 minutes ago, johnarth said: Interesting seems bad against bad, so where are the goodies? Severely lacking unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post metisdead Posted February 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2018 A number of posts and the replies that claimed others were paid shills have been removed. If you have any actual evidence please forward it to support. further references like that may find you without posting rights. Other off topic posts and replies have been removed. Why is it when a topic is about Yingluck it turns into a discussion about Thaksin and when a topic is about Thaksin, why do those topics turn into a topic about Yingluck? Please stay on topic. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovelomsak Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I read the article a few times. I did not get the feeling she is getting ready to make her move. I got the feeling she is out of politics and wants to get on with her life. Doing what she enjoys travel and shopping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 minute ago, lovelomsak said: I read the article a few times. I did not get the feeling she is getting ready to make her move. I got the feeling she is out of politics and wants to get on with her life. Doing what she enjoys travel and shopping. She can't get back in politics anyway she has been banned. No need to please her brother anymore he needs to find an other puppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovelomsak Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, robblok said: She can't get back in politics anyway she has been banned. No need to please her brother anymore he needs to find an other puppet. So this whole thread is a waste of time and energy talking about something that cannot happen. Thai Visa at its best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 minute ago, lovelomsak said: So this whole thread is a waste of time and energy talking about something that cannot happen. Thai Visa at its best. She can still try to cause embarrassment to the junta or something like that.. just can't be elected anymore. How did you think she could do anything while on the run ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, lovelomsak said: So this whole thread is a waste of time and energy talking about something that cannot happen. Thai Visa at its best. So the fact that she cannot be re-elected is the fault of ThaiVisa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCauto Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 11 hours ago, Eric Loh said: This looks like the authority is setting up the scene to link her with the current demonstration. Timing of this report is highly suspicious and the new Nation owners may have much influence. Just my 2 cents opinion. Been out of the loop - who owns the Nation now? I was most unimpressed by the story they ran extolling the Great Hunter on the day after his arrest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovelomsak Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, robblok said: She can still try to cause embarrassment to the junta or something like that.. just can't be elected anymore. How did you think she could do anything while on the run ? I did not say she could do any thing read what I posted please and talk about the post not what you can make up. I said I did not get the feeling she was ready to make her move,I felt she was out of politics. How did you translate that to How did you think she could do anything while on the run ? You really do like to arque do you not and just to arque make them up as you go. Edited February 18, 2018 by lovelomsak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazykopite Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Very interesting , but more important question is there any more news regarding the loan of millions of baht worth of watches from a friend who is now deceased it seems to have been overlooked . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovelomsak Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 24 minutes ago, scorecard said: So the fact that she cannot be re-elected is the fault of ThaiVisa? No this thread is Thai Visa thread about some thing that cannot even happen boy there are some real thick folk here.I must be one of them I keep replying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 16 minutes ago, JCauto said: Been out of the loop - who owns the Nation now? I was most unimpressed by the story they ran extolling the Great Hunter on the day after his arrest. NATION MULTIMEDIA TAKEN OVER BY FAR-RIGHT NEWS CORP 22 Jan ‘18. Not sure I can link in this forum. Yong founder brothers quit Nation. Not sure coerce or personal reasons. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCauto Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 8 hours ago, MaeJoMTB said: More of a racial/cultural/language divide IMHO Reds (aka Lao people) Vs Yellows (aka Siam people) If I may quote ..... "Speakers of Lao in the North and Northeast have seen the prime minister they elected into office dismissed by the courts twice, overthrown in a coup twice, and election results nullified twice. Such antics, if continued, could provoke resistance and rebellion along age-old and not-completely-forgotten ethnic lines." https://isaanrecord.com/2015/09/02/guest-editorial-thai-has-the-highest-percentage-of-second-language-speakers-among-major-languages/ Nice find and very interesting article. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUTHERNSTAR Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 13 hours ago, YetAnother said: a lot of bluster and spin from a hugely biased source; junta , albeit fools, are not quite so stupid to get her back here What if she publicly hand herself over. If the junta refuse her to enter the country they loose if they allow her back in to go jail they loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUTHERNSTAR Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 hour ago, robblok said: She can still try to cause embarrassment to the junta or something like that.. just can't be elected anymore. How did you think she could do anything while on the run ? If the junta can white wash general Rolex, she can get back into politics. It is just a question of who is in power and how much power they have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCauto Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, SOUTHERNSTAR said: What if she publicly hand herself over. If the junta refuse her to enter the country they loose if they allow her back in to go jail they loose. That is what she should have done rather than flee, and would have done if she were a greater person like some of her sisters in neighbouring countries. It would certainly make things very interesting, but the character hasn't changed and I very much doubt she's found her courage in London or wherever else. Pity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAG Posted February 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, metisdead said: A number of posts and the replies that claimed others were paid shills have been removed. If you have any actual evidence please forward it to support. further references like that may find you without posting rights. Other off topic posts and replies have been removed. Why is it when a topic is about Yingluck it turns into a discussion about Thaksin and when a topic is about Thaksin, why do those topics turn into a topic about Yingluck? Please stay on topic. I know we aren't supposed to comment on moderators posts, but you did pose the question, so I will give what is, in my opinion, the answer. Thaksin Shinawatra and Yingluck Shinawatra are intrinsically linked, politically, as siblings and as elected Prime Ministers whose re-election was prevented by a military coup. They do rather go together. If you are discussing the current political situation in Thailand then you really cannot separate them. Edited February 18, 2018 by JAG 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 hour ago, SOUTHERNSTAR said: What if she publicly hand herself over. If the junta refuse her to enter the country they loose if they allow her back in to go jail they loose. Stupid statement, Thai born have automatic entry into Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JemJem Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I am no major fan of the junta, but, hmmmm...... a Thailand that is once again controlled or manipulated by Thaksin (who has a record of major corruption and human rights violations).......would some of you really want that again ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post baboon Posted February 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, JemJem said: I am no major fan of the junta, but, hmmmm...... a Thailand that is once again controlled or manipulated by Thaksin (who has a record of major corruption and human rights violations).......would some of you really want that again ?! Why not? Let it run its course, let the voters become well and truly sick of them then kick them out in favour of fresh blood. This is what happens when events are allowed to play out by themselves: We see it with the junta now. What doesn't work is 'But surely comrades, nobody wants to see farmer Jones return?' The answers you seek are all there in Animal Farm... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 19 hours ago, Becker said: First you have to give me your definition of a true democratic society. A society with a population under 5,000 people, all policies can be voted on by the populace. It doesn't exist except maybe in the jungle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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