Arsenal

[tigerfish]

<deleted> me !

holmes and watson at it now on the arsenal thread.

[carmine]

<deleted> me !

holmes and watson at it now on the arsenal thread.

Bang on time tigerfish!!!

Fact is, Wenger has finally managed to influence the refs decisions. How dare anybody have the temerity to actually tackle an Arse Player. very clever of him because the Arse have spent most of the season playing ten men. Check out your results when you played eleven men like the rest of us have to.

[smokie36]

question is now though whether we can use this result as a spring board to move on to better things and become a strong outfit once again both at home and away.

The answer to your question is no you won't.

Unless every team they play only have 10 men

Well theres an interesting point. In the few league games that have been played this season, how many players have been sent off whilst playing Arsenal? I don't actually know the answer to the question but i'm thinking its three, which if correct is a rather high average isn't it.

Wenker has had 'em at double training with the drama coaches after ballet practice of course. Farkin prima donnas that they are.

[carmine]

Its good to get stuck into the cheating Arse thread on a monday morning. Afterall if we did'nt our old mate tigerfish would be talking to himself.

[smokie36]

Its good to get stuck into the cheating Arse thread on a monday morning. Afterall if we did'nt our old mate tigerfish would be talking to himself.

Aye I like a good howk on a monday mornin'!

[tigerfish]

Its good to get stuck into the cheating Arse thread on a monday morning. Afterall if we did'nt our old mate tigerfish would be talking to himself.

Aye I like a good howk on a monday mornin'!

nothing like a good old laugh on the spurs thread though, 24/7 365 days of the year.

[smokie36]

Its good to get stuck into the cheating Arse thread on a monday morning. Afterall if we did'nt our old mate tigerfish would be talking to himself.

Aye I like a good howk on a monday mornin'!

nothing like a good old laugh on the spurs thread though, 24/7 365 days of the year.

We're just waiting for Miggy to show up with the chocolate like she always does after the ref gifts you three points.

[carmine]

Its good to get stuck into the cheating Arse thread on a monday morning. Afterall if we did'nt our old mate tigerfish would be talking to himself.

Aye I like a good howk on a monday mornin'!

nothing like a good old laugh on the spurs thread though, 24/7 365 days of the year.

We're just waiting for Miggy to show up with the chocolate like she always does after the ref gifts you three points.

Is it possible Dr Watso that we could find the stats on the gooners start to the league season as in particularily games won/lost whilst playing 10/11 men?

Oooohhhhh ok i admit it....anything to create some interest in this morgue like thread.

[yermanee]

question is now though whether we can use this result as a spring board to move on to better things and become a strong outfit once again both at home and away.

The answer to your question is no you won't.

Unless every team they play only have 10 men

Well theres an interesting point. In the few league games that have been played this season, how many players have been sent off whilst playing Arsenal? I don't actually know the answer to the question but i'm thinking its three, which if correct is a rather high average isn't it.

Why am I not surprised over these reactions. If Chamakh hadn't been mowed down it probably would have been 0 - 1 in the 4th minute of the game. And if I remember correctly Arsenal have had 2 red cards themselves so maybe the conclusion might be that the referee's are finaly doing something about foul play.

Yermanee

[smokie36]

The bloodhound that you are Holmes......

Here you go.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/results/default.stm

[carmine]

One of your red cards was for the foul by Wilshire which was one of the worst you are likely to see all season. So please don't use your two reds as an example of equal treatment.

Incidentally, if you saw the game last week, why was'nt Eboue sent off then?

[smokie36]

Five players sent off against you this season ALREADY!!!

Sheesh give us a break!!!

[tigerfish]

^ never had you two down as a pair of ageing old farts !

one bald deer stalker wearing, pipe smoking up his own................ and the other a silver haired bumbling idiot sporting a tash.

but then again come to think of it all the pieces are now falling into place.

dont tell me your fashion sense goes somewhere a long the lines of the team you support too.

[carmine]

^ never had you two down as a pair of ageing old farts !

one bald deer stalker wearing, pipe smoking up his own................ and the other a silver haired bumbling idiot sporting a tash.

but then again come to think of it all the pieces are now falling into place.

dont tell me your fashion sense goes somewhere a long the lines of the team you support too.

Better than the arsehol_e Wenger school of fashion......dirty raincoat, tracksuit bottoms and plimsoles.

[MiG16]

blah blah blah

anyhow.....back to reality

City 0: 2 Arsenal

superb goals by the boys! and even some decent save by Fabianski (I was pleasantly surprised)

[tigerfish]

blah blah blah

anyhow.....back to reality

City 0: 2 Arsenal

superb goals by the boys! and even some decent save by Fabianski (I was pleasantly surprised)

mig you might want to change that scoreline.

ive already copped a load this morning from that lot that support the rabble from the other side of n.london.

they dont need anymore encouragement, now do they ?

[carmine]

blah blah blah

anyhow.....back to reality

City 0: 2 Arsenal

superb goals by the boys! and even some decent save by Fabianski (I was pleasantly surprised)

mig you might want to change that scoreline.

ive already copped a load this morning from that lot that support the rabble from the other side of n.london.

they dont need anymore encouragement, now do they ?

[yermanee]

One of your red cards was for the foul by Wilshire which was one of the worst you are likely to see all season. So please don't use your two reds as an example of equal treatment.

Incidentally, if you saw the game last week, why was'nt Eboue sent off then?

Maybe, but in my opinion the foul from De Jong that broke his opponents leg was far worse than that.

And Arsenal have had more than their fair share of broken legs don't they.

Anyway three points in the bag.

Yermanee

[MiG16]

LOL, typo

I could change it, but then again, as it is this already gives so many people displeasure. by the sheer fact that Arsenal won

and to those that say Arsene can influence the refs.

seriously. I wish.

(but nah, I dont really wish. I accept it when we lose, albeit with a lot of groaning. and why shouldnt I celebrate when we win?)

[SantiSuk]

Great result. I don't buy that it was simple after we were gifted a 10 man opposition. Plenty of cases where 10 men play as strongly as 11. If anyone gifted it to Arsenal it was Mantovani (or whatever his name is). Experienced managers don't play new boys from the start, they don't leave crocks on the field for 15 minutes in the hope they can be patched up at half time and they don't leave in-form wingers on the subs bench when the team is clearly losing the plot in midfield.

I loved the suggestion that refs should ignore the rules in the first few minutes of a game. Try writing that one into Referee Guidance Notes. Those who call for common sense from one side create incense on the other side.

One thing that is beginning to pee me off about the English Premier League is the yellow card hacking that goes on in the first 20-30 minutes of many EPL games. Arsenal were as bad as Man City and neither were any worse than many other teams. It's obvious that players can avoid doing it - 95% of those who hack once demonstrably can avoid hacking again, so it must be just a function of having a relatively cost-free chance to make a physical mark and maybe even take a player out. It adds nothing to the game, I think it is rubbish to suggest that it is somehow all a necessary part of a contact sport (as suggested by all these TV pundits trying to look hard and macho) - does anyone think that the first 20 minutes of a game when all this hacking goes on is somehow more attractive to watch than the rest of the average game?

I reckon it is not the refs that are creating a potential for a contact-less game but it's the punishment for single yellows that is not sufficient to stop the ritual avoidable unnecessary and disruptive hacking that goes on. IMO The EPL needs to experiment with a two match suspension after 3 yellow cards with a slate clean after 10 games (or some such). It's the hit to the pocket of players (loss of appearance fees) that is the biggest incentive. A bit too bureaucratic perhaps but they have to address this issue somehow.

{If you respond with 'here's another Gooner complaining about poofy Arsenal being beaten up' then either I am not explaining myself well or (more likely) you are reading what you want to read.}

PS The Arsenal defense still looks like porcelain to me but with a full complement of midfield and forward players in the offing we should be able to maintain momentum by scoring more goals than most oppositions. Fabianski is getting Wenger out of jail on his lack of goalkeeper acquisition strategy - good for him and thank goodness we can put the other clown back in his box for now.

[yermanee]

Great result. I don't buy that it was simple after we were gifted a 10 man opposition. Plenty of cases where 10 men play as strongly as 11. If anyone gifted it to Arsenal it was Mantovani (or whatever his name is). Experienced managers don't play new boys from the start, they don't leave crocks on the field for 15 minutes in the hope they can be patched up at half time and they don't leave in-form wingers on the subs bench when the team is clearly losing the plot in midfield.

I loved the suggestion that refs should ignore the rules in the first few minutes of a game. Try writing that one into Referee Guidance Notes. Those who call for common sense from one side create incense on the other side.

One thing that is beginning to pee me off about the English Premier League is the yellow card hacking that goes on in the first 20-30 minutes of many EPL games. Arsenal were as bad as Man City and neither were any worse than many other teams. It's obvious that players can avoid doing it - 95% of those who hack once demonstrably can avoid hacking again, so it must be just a function of having a relatively cost-free chance to make a physical mark and maybe even take a player out. It adds nothing to the game, I think it is rubbish to suggest that it is somehow all a necessary part of a contact sport (as suggested by all these TV pundits trying to look hard and macho) - does anyone think that the first 20 minutes of a game when all this hacking goes on is somehow more attractive to watch than the rest of the average game?

I reckon it is not the refs that are creating a potential for a contact-less game but it's the punishment for single yellows that is not sufficient to stop the ritual avoidable unnecessary and disruptive hacking that goes on. IMO The EPL needs to experiment with a two match suspension after 3 yellow cards with a slate clean after 10 games (or some such). It's the hit to the pocket of players (loss of appearance fees) that is the biggest incentive. A bit too bureaucratic perhaps but they have to address this issue somehow.

{If you respond with 'here's another Gooner complaining about poofy Arsenal being beaten up' then either I am not explaining myself well or (more likely) you are reading what you want to read.}

PS The Arsenal defense still looks like porcelain to me but with a full complement of midfield and forward players in the offing we should be able to maintain momentum by scoring more goals than most oppositions. Fabianski is getting Wenger out of jail on his lack of goalkeeper acquisition strategy - good for him and thank goodness we can put the other clown back in his box for now.

Hear hear, and you have said it a lot more eloquently than I ever could.

Poofy Arsenal is no more and that doesn't sit well with a lot of people.

Thanks and cheers,

Yermanee

[carmine]

Santisuk has made a good post there, and i agree with most of it.

What does'nt sit well with me is the total and utter hypocracy of Arsene Wenger when it comes to the issues of tackling, fouls etc etc.

Some of us remember the disciplinary record of his team in the earlier year of his management at Arsenal.

[yermanee]

Santisuk has made a good post there, and i agree with most of it.

What does'nt sit well with me is the total and utter hypocracy of Arsene Wenger when it comes to the issues of tackling, fouls etc etc.

Some of us remember the disciplinary record of his team in the earlier year of his management at Arsenal.

As many pundits have used as an excuse for some British managers, one plays with what one has available, and if some are thugs then so be it.:(

Yermanee

p.s. I'm sometimes trying to be funny, but as you all know us yerman's are not well known for our sense of humor.

[tigerfish]

^ no worries there yermanee.

i mean look at the spurs lot, youd think they would have developed a sense of humor after supporting a joke of a team for most of their life.

[yermanee]

^ no worries there yermanee.

i mean look at the spurs lot, youd think they would have developed a sense of humor after supporting a joke of a team for most of their life.

To be fair to the spurs fans, the players change, as do the managers, but you're right the joke remains the same.

Yermanee

[smokie36]

^ no worries there yermanee.

i mean look at the spurs lot, youd think they would have developed a sense of humor after supporting a joke of a team for most of their life.

To be fair to the spurs fans, the players change, as do the managers, but you're right the joke remains the same.

Yermanee

Another season of so near and yet so far for your most successful manager.....you did win the league back in the mists of time......bye bye Fabregas and bye bye Wenger......

Much as I'm enjoying the current season next year will be even sweeter.

[yermanee]

^ no worries there yermanee.

i mean look at the spurs lot, youd think they would have developed a sense of humor after supporting a joke of a team for most of their life.

To be fair to the spurs fans, the players change, as do the managers, but you're right the joke remains the same.

Yermanee

Another season of so near and yet so far for your most successful manager.....you did win the league back in the mists of time......bye bye Fabregas and bye bye Wenger......

Much as I'm enjoying the current season next year will be even sweeter.

In the words of the immortal Frankie Laine :

Jealousy !!!

Night and day you torture me !!

I sometimes wonder.....

What's the spell that I'm under !!

Arsenal perhaps ????

Yermanee

[tigerfish]

^ no worries there yermanee.

i mean look at the spurs lot, youd think they would have developed a sense of humor after supporting a joke of a team for most of their life.

To be fair to the spurs fans, the players change, as do the managers, but you're right the joke remains the same.

Yermanee

Another season of so near and yet so far for your most successful manager.....you did win the league back in the mists of time......bye bye Fabregas and bye bye Wenger......

Much as I'm enjoying the current season next year will be even sweeter.

and spurs fans have been saying the same old for how many years now ?

[Englander]

Whats with all these adverts theyre destorying whats been a cracking 20 minutes of football 7 adverts so far ... it cant cost that much to buy the rights to the CC.

[tigerfish]

good result for the gunners tonight !

a bit fortunate with the first goal and the second was a real dubious affair, but even so stuck to theirs guns well and added the third and forth in the last 10 minutes of the game. thought the keeper did well and nice to see theo bag a couple, plus a couple of the youngsters get a run out as well.

see barton hasn't lost any of his edge when things start to go pear shaped. the look on wengers face said it all.

oh but wait a minute, surely not. no cant have any such talk on this forum about opposing sides players kicking lumps of shit out of the arsenal team when they get played off the park, now can we. that just wouldn't be on now would it .