Everest 3.2L 4*4 Tyre Problem

[JAS21]

A few days ago noticed that the steering oscillates when driving … especially noticeable when driving slowly. So went to Ford and discussed with the guy I know who speaks English … he basically said a tyre problem … anyway booked it in for next week.

 

Decided to get an opinion from a tyre shop that I use, there we put it up in the air and noticed the surface of the front tyres felt rough especially the outer part.

 

They said something like the rubber had swelled! So removed and re-balanced and they needed about 40gms on the inside. Put them on the rear. They said not an alignment problem.

 

There is now problem with the steering. I have always run the front tyres at the recommended 35psi

 

This tyre swelling suggestion seems odd as the tyres are not that old or have travelled many kms. Am thinking of going to see Goodyear who are not that far away from us ..ANY COMMENTS

Since the last service Mrs J has been to Phu Tub Beok and the local road  is quite twisty …

[cornishcarlos]

5 minutes ago, JAS21 said:

..ANY COMMENTS

 

Yes, where did you get the extra 100cc from ??

[JAS21]

8 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

Yes, where did you get the extra 100cc from ??

Was a special ..

[Crossy]

And now he left it in the rain and it shrank by 100cc 

 

Fixed the thread title.

[transam]

I first thought your tracking was out, well it could still be if a wheel/track arm took a hit...But good idea to have a word with GY...

[JAS21]

Woops ...I see that I typed the is now problem with the steering ..should be there now no problem ...

[HAKAPALITA]

 Dump it.!The new CRVs on its way to save the day.

[BEVUP]

14 hours ago, JAS21 said:

Woops ...I see that I typed the is now problem with the steering ..should be there now no problem ...

So no I ill comment

Either crap tyres or faulty

 

Also could be due to you pumping them up to max PSI (if done by thai it ill be over )

hich may have cause expansion & along ith such a indy road caused the out side ear 

 

PS : as you can see I just lost a letter on my key board aaahhhh !

[JAS21]

55 minutes ago, HAKAPALITA said:

 Dump it.!The new CRVs on its way to save the day.

We have the Civic RS as a run-a-round ... need a proper vehicle for everything else.  

 

Will the CRV fit in the back of the Everest ... 

[JAS21]

51 minutes ago, BEVUP said:

So no I ill comment

Either crap tyres or faulty

 

Also could be due to you pumping them up to max PSI (if done by thai it ill be over )

hich may have cause expansion & along ith such a indy road caused the out side ear 

 

PS : as you can see I just lost a letter on my key board aaahhhh !

Bad luck about your keyboard ...

 

I'm at a loss ... tyres are Goodyear and on from new... always at 35psi as recommended for the fronts.

 

Will visit Goodyear who are not too far away from us when I get time and my 'kin cold departs which I have had for four days!!!

[HAKAPALITA]

Just now, JAS21 said:

We have the Civic RS as a run-a-round ... need a proper vehicle for everything else.  

 

Will the CRV fit in the back of the Everest ... 

Sensible thought, if you move the unused chairs it should fit, then can get you home in style.

[Lancashirelad]

Constant steering wheel vibration at a particular speed (or speed range) is almost always wheel balancing. If you can drive through it. i.e. go faster and it disappears, its definitely wheel imbalance. 

You can have them balanced one day, hit a post hole or a kerb the next and that wheel will be out of balance again.

Steering wheel shake is not usually caused by alignment (tracking) problems.

[Jitar]

JAS, what is the problem with the steering after the re balance and tyre rotation you mention in the OP?  

 

Vibration is often imbalance as the lad says.  Warped brake discs can do it to.

 

Tyre carcass can deteriorate and get distorted but this is not common with car tyres.  This is usually caused by under running under inflated or a manufacturing quality problem.  If your tyre man is suggesting something like this, I would replace the tyres.   

 

 

[HAKAPALITA]

Could be caused by rotating non rotators.


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[NanLaew]

Not too unusual to have badly unbalanced tires from the factory that need either loads of rim weighting or are just plain unmanageable over the higher speed ranges on cars. There's also a trick where all new tires apparently have a marker where the manufacturer recommends where the air stem, tire valve be located when mounting on a rim. I have read of issues with this being ignored and tires needing loads of extra but unnecessary (if the tire had been mounted correctly) weighting for correct balance.

 

Have you checked the date stamps on all four tire walls to see if they are from the same batch? Could indicate a bad batch if they are markedly different.

 

How many kilometers from new before this steering shake became noticeable? Just because they aren't shaking now doesn't mean that there's a possible front-end alignment issue that will slowly crater your front tires again.

 

When you say;

On 5/8/2018 at 11:32 AM, JAS21 said:

...surface of the front tyres felt rough especially the outer part.

I take it you mean the outer edges of the tread area? If seriously rough, it may indicate a shifted scrub radius which ideally is designed to be near the center of the tread pattern. How do the outer edges of the current front tires look?

 

Goes without saying to check if Mrs J is prone to kerbing the SUV or has possibly clouted something or hit a decent pothole on her wanderings. However, if she's like most locals, she probably parks at least 3 nautical miles from any kerb!

[JAS21]

Have you checked the date stamps on all four tire walls to see if they are from the same batch? Could indicate a bad batch if they are markedly different ...three tyres are 38/15 and one 37/15 ...but the odd pair were on the rear at that time.

 

Only one of the tyres had the  YY/MM marked on the outside ...these tyres are uni-directional I think and and again the 'odd' pair were on the rear at the time.

 

How many kilometers from new before this steering shake became noticeable? about 27500Kms ... they were only changed F-R 1800Kms ago and I think Ford balanced them as part of the service. The fronts need 40gms on the inside! and I think 5gms on the outside. All were checked but only the fronts needed balancing.

 

The front outers were scrubbed more than the rears. I will wait and see what happens to tyres that are on the front now ... also pay GoodYear a visit.

 

Suppose I had better get the alignment checked BUT the tyre garage said not an alignment issue.

 

[Lancashirelad]

How to check for misalignment wear. Put the front wheels on full lock. Stand very close by the side of the wheel, facing forwards and look down the front of the tyre. Look to see if both shoulders are wearing evenly. 

[BEVUP]

I would get the whole lot checked out 

* Rims - who know's whats happened

* Alignment

* Tyres - manufacture / warranty 

& I would be hitting the Ford franchise up or the tyre place that put them on new 

 

Some one has cost you 10,000 bht in tyres 

[transam]

First get the tracking done at a place that has the proper gear..

 

Them balancing the dodgy tyres with lots of weight could just be due to the rubber that has been scrubbed off...

[JAS21]

7 hours ago, transam said:

First get the tracking done at a place that has the proper gear..

 

Them balancing the dodgy tyres with lots of weight could just be due to the rubber that has been scrubbed off...

Yes my tyre shop has the gear ... front - back - caster -camber etc. When you buy four new tyres they do it for free ... it's only a few hundred thb anyway. Unfortunately, at present, I'm not doing enough kms  to see if the problem occurs again ... I will go and talk to them again...

[mogandave]

Yes my tyre shop has the gear ... front - back - caster -camber etc. When you buy four new tyres they do it for free ... it's only a few hundred thb anyway. Unfortunately, at present, I'm not doing enough kms  to see if the problem occurs again ... I will go and talk to them again...

Four wheel alignment, yes?

[JAS21]

3 hours ago, mogandave said:

 

Four wheel alignment, yes?

 

Yes...very impressive gear ...

[Jitar]

How is the alignment of the rear wheels is adjusted?

[JAS21]

8 minutes ago, Jitar said:

How is the alignment of the rear wheels is adjusted?

Mr Google has made several videos ... of course you cannot easily do on every car.

[mogandave]

While the rear wheels can be adjusted, typically they are not.

4-wheel alignment typically refers to the front wheels being aligned with respect to the rear wheels.

Lasers are mounted on the rear wheels with receivers on the front (or visa-versa) such that the front wheels can be made parallel with the rear wheels.