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Bush And Iran

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Bush warns Iran against fueling violence in Iraq

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush vowed on Monday to respond firmly if Tehran foments violence inside Iraq, but said he had no intention of invading Iran.

Washington has accused Tehran of undermining efforts to stabilize Iraq and of pursuing nuclear weapons. Two U.S. aircraft carriers have been stationed in the Gulf as a warning to the Islamic republic.

From Reuters

Ah yes, I can see this one coming. Before the end of his miserable term, blames Iran for the trouble within Iraq, creates a situation to justify a retaliation against Iran, why not... while troops are already deployed in the area. Keep the military brass, arms industry and Halliburton happy while leaving a mess for the democrats before leaving Orifice.

Morons.

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He doesn't have to blame Iran, their equipment and soldiers are already in the country. And this is known since some time.

Check out the 'Bombings of Irans [faked] Embassy' debacle.

Morons.

Um ... I think that would be singular unless you are speaking on behalf of others.

As others have alluded, it is a common fact that Iran and Syria are actively engaged in creating and trying to maintain civil unrest in Iraq. This is only natural, as a stable democratic Iraq does not fit in their current policy strategy of generating unrest as a means to proliferating radical theocratic tyrannies as a form of central government.

But they should be under no expectation that their activity would come without a response. Just as there are and have been covert operations taking place across the Syrian border, Iran should not be surprised to see specifically targeted attacks inside of their border if they continue to proceed on this course.

Iran's actions have everything to do with political will and nothing to do with the common good of the region, or the common good of their own people for that matter. One would think that a country which is one of the world's largest oil producers and yet at the same time one of the world's largest importers (by percentage) of refined petroleum products (e.g., fuel oil, gasoline, etc.), would have higher priorities in serving their citizenry.

Make no misunderstanding, Iran and their little Mini-Me wanna-be middle eastern power broker president are nothing more than flies in the ointment. Mini-Me is not a power player. He and his regime could be squashed like a gnat in an instant, if the need ever truly arose. The only strength he and the Iranian leadership think they have is squeezing every bit of waning political capital that they can out of a fading radical islamic backward leaning mentality. In fact, the only political capital they have is the amount of tolerance people have before pulling out the fly-swatter.

I guess it must be hard to appreciate the concept of walking on thin ice when living in a desert.

Did somebody say something? :o

Morons.

Um ... I think that would be singular unless you are speaking on behalf of others.

As others have alluded, it is a common fact that Iran and Syria are actively engaged in creating and trying to maintain civil unrest in Iraq. This is only natural, as a stable democratic Iraq does not fit in their current policy strategy of generating unrest as a means to proliferating radical theocratic tyrannies as a form of central government.

But they should be under no expectation that their activity would come without a response. Just as there are and have been covert operations taking place across the Syrian border, Iran should not be surprised to see specifically targeted attacks inside of their border if they continue to proceed on this course.

Iran's actions have everything to do with political will and nothing to do with the common good of the region, or the common good of their own people for that matter. One would think that a country which is one of the world's largest oil producers and yet at the same time one of the world's largest importers (by percentage) of refined petroleum products (e.g., fuel oil, gasoline, etc.), would have higher priorities in serving their citizenry.

Make no misunderstanding, Iran and their little Mini-Me wanna-be middle eastern power broker president are nothing more than flies in the ointment. Mini-Me is not a power player. He and his regime could be squashed like a gnat in an instant, if the need ever truly arose. The only strength he and the Iranian leadership think they have is squeezing every bit of waning political capital that they can out of a fading radical islamic backward leaning mentality. In fact, the only political capital they have is the amount of tolerance people have before pulling out the fly-swatter.

I guess it must be hard to appreciate the concept of walking on thin ice when living in a desert.

I guess I can see how some people could have been suckered on the need to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, but it amazes me that there are people dumb enough to fall for that with Iran. Is there anything Bush could say that you wouldn't believe?

Thank you Qualtrough for beating me to it.

So, Spee, Iran is a gnat. So what is Iraq and Afghanistan. Iraq has one-third of the population and a far more ethnically divided society. Afghanistan is a penniless desert. Bush is still squashing both after 4 years. You don't understand the destruction of war and how it truly should be held in obeyance until really required. Pointless violence just puts the brakes on the development of mankind.

Morons.

Um ... I think that would be singular unless you are speaking on behalf of others.

As others have alluded, it is a common fact that Iran and Syria are actively engaged in creating and trying to maintain civil unrest in Iraq. This is only natural, as a stable democratic Iraq does not fit in their current policy strategy of generating unrest as a means to proliferating radical theocratic tyrannies as a form of central government.

But they should be under no expectation that their activity would come without a response. Just as there are and have been covert operations taking place across the Syrian border, Iran should not be surprised to see specifically targeted attacks inside of their border if they continue to proceed on this course.

Iran's actions have everything to do with political will and nothing to do with the common good of the region, or the common good of their own people for that matter. One would think that a country which is one of the world's largest oil producers and yet at the same time one of the world's largest importers (by percentage) of refined petroleum products (e.g., fuel oil, gasoline, etc.), would have higher priorities in serving their citizenry.

Make no misunderstanding, Iran and their little Mini-Me wanna-be middle eastern power broker president are nothing more than flies in the ointment. Mini-Me is not a power player. He and his regime could be squashed like a gnat in an instant, if the need ever truly arose. The only strength he and the Iranian leadership think they have is squeezing every bit of waning political capital that they can out of a fading radical islamic backward leaning mentality. In fact, the only political capital they have is the amount of tolerance people have before pulling out the fly-swatter.

I guess it must be hard to appreciate the concept of walking on thin ice when living in a desert.

but, but, but...Syria is a secular arab country, last time I looked :D

Iran and Syria have simply identified a common enemy...the rest of the civilised world should wise up and do the same...there shall be no defeating lunatic US foreign policy otherwise... :o

Afghanistan is a penniless desert. ..... You don't understand the destruction of war and how it truly should be held in obeyance until really required.

The prior Afghan government sponsored and harbored a radical group which lauched terror attacks that killed over 3000 American and other citizens. There was only one possible reaction, which was to remove and exterminate as much of that government as possible. But of course, you're probably one of many confused people who believe that either the US conspired to commit 9-11 or that it was the US's own fault that 9-11 happened.

What all the peace-niks fail to realize about war is that, although it is the worst case scenario, there is only one way to wage it. That is killing enough of the enemy to bring the rest to unconditional surrender. That unconditional surrender is what leads to long term peace, stability and prosperity.

You really want peace in the middle east. Then bring about some unconditional surrenders. Pull out a few weapons and turn Damascus or Tehran into double-glazing. That will never happen, but if it did, then you would be guaranteed to have peace in the region because everyone else would have th sh*t sufficiently scared out of them that they might be next.

Obviously I'm not advocating the use of weapons for this purpose, but rather to make a point. When people want to fight, then you have to let them fight until one side has taken enough of a beating that they are in submission. When it comes to that, no one truly wants to <deleted> with the US, or GB or Israel because they know they will get their a*s kicked. Unfortunately, some leaders have recently miscalculated and forgotten that simple fact.

Pointless violence just puts the brakes on the development of mankind.

So tyrannical governments like Communist China, dictatorial North Korea, Communist-dictatorial Cuba, theocratic-facist Iran and dictatorial Syria are the true enlightened path for accelerating the growth of mankind?

Gimme a <deleted>' break!

Freedom, democracy and open economy are the paths toward rapid beneficial development of mankind. Can you or anyone else in their right mind deny that?

So who really promotes these things, if they are the things that do benefit mankind? The Taliban? Castro? Radical Islamism? Obviously not. Rather it is the western economic powers who promote and invest in these things because it benefits everyone across the board.

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Bush warns Iran against fueling violence in Iraq

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush vowed on Monday to respond firmly if Tehran foments violence inside Iraq, but said he had no intention of invading Iran.

Washington has accused Tehran of undermining efforts to stabilize Iraq and of pursuing nuclear weapons. Two U.S. aircraft carriers have been stationed in the Gulf as a warning to the Islamic republic.

From Reuters

Ah yes, I can see this one coming. Before the end of his miserable term, blames Iran for the trouble within Iraq, creates a situation to justify a retaliation against Iran, why not... while troops are already deployed in the area. Keep the military brass, arms industry and Halliburton happy while leaving a mess for the democrats before leaving Orifice.

As long as we win this time, I could care less how we do it! :o

The prior Afghan government sponsored and harbored a radical group which lauched terror attacks that killed over 3000 American and other citizens.

Armed and trained by the US originally to fight the USSR.

You ommited that because it doesn't fit into your view of things.

Do you think we, like most intelligent people, don't know how it all got started Spee?

Or maybe you don't know that. :o

The prior Afghan government sponsored and harbored a radical group which lauched terror attacks that killed over 3000 American and other citizens.

Armed and trained by the US originally to fight the USSR.

You ommited that because it doesn't fit into your view of things.

Do you think we, like most intelligent people, don't know how it all got started Spee?

Or maybe you don't know that. :D

I also like the fact that most of that (the training/funding/equipping) of the Taliban (and Northern Alliance) came during Ronald Reagan's time in office, and it was also during that time that Osama got his start.

Funny how the Republicans ignore that and keep trying to blame Osama on the Democrats. :o

The prior Afghan government sponsored and harbored a radical group which lauched terror attacks that killed over 3000 American and other citizens.

Armed and trained by the US originally to fight the USSR.

You ommited that because it doesn't fit into your view of things.

Do you think we, like most intelligent people, don't know how it all got started Spee?

Or maybe you don't know that. :D

I also like the fact that most of that (the training/funding/equipping) of the Taliban (and Northern Alliance) came during Ronald Reagan's time in office, and it was also during that time that Osama got his start.

Funny how the Republicans ignore that and keep trying to blame Osama on the Democrats. :o

I've got no dog in this fight, but I think you'll find, if you do a little bit of research, that Osama and the mujahadin were co-opted by Zbignew Brerzinski (sp) of the Carter administration. The Reagan White House did continue this policy, so you're partly correct.

Yup seen it on the news.

Iran isn't backing down and said they're willing to kick the holy sheeeeite out of the US if they want a piece of the action. I think the US will bottle it... :D

BTW I just want to say hi to all my Iranian friends. :o

and Boon and Spee remember this isn't WWF it's WW3, hopefully Boon you'll get drafted. :D

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Interesting how a small sliver of a country with a population of 7 million, spread out on 20,770 sq. km. only (country rank:151st in size) is allowed, as an undeclared nuclear weapon state, to stockpile an arsenal of this size. And they say they're worried about Iran. :o

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According to retired US Army Colonel Warner D. Farr, M.D., Israel is the fifth largest nuclear superpower in the world. By 1967, Israel already had 15 atomic bombs in its arsenal. In 1976, their nuclear arsenal grew to 15 to 20 nukes, and by 1980 jumped to 200. According to Farr, in 1997, Israel now has over 400 nuclear and hydrogen weapons.

A hydrogen bomb is a boosted, stronger nuclear bomb, with 100 to 1,000 stronger power than a regular nuclear bomb. This bomb produces immense heat and a shock wave that affects an extensive area, and despite this, it produces a smaller amount of fallout and radioactive contamination. :D The hydrogen bombs are considered to be a sophisticated, expensive and complicated weapon to develop.

Interesting how a small sliver of a country with a population of 7 million, spread out on 20,770 sq. km. only (country rank:151st in size) is allowed, as an undeclared nuclear weapon state, to stockpile an arsenal of this size. And they say they're worried about Iran. :o

250px-LocationIsrael.svg.png

According to retired US Army Colonel Warner D. Farr, M.D., Israel is the fifth largest nuclear superpower in the world. By 1967, Israel already had 15 atomic bombs in its arsenal. In 1976, their nuclear arsenal grew to 15 to 20 nukes, and by 1980 jumped to 200. According to Farr, in 1997, Israel now has over 400 nuclear and hydrogen weapons.

A hydrogen bomb is a boosted, stronger nuclear bomb, with 100 to 1,000 stronger power than a regular nuclear bomb. This bomb produces immense heat and a shock wave that affects an extensive area, and despite this, it produces a smaller amount of fallout and radioactive contamination. :D The hydrogen bombs are considered to be a sophisticated, expensive and complicated weapon to develop.

BIG mistake, stealing the Palistine to create Isreal, "thats another fine mess you got us into"!

A hydrogen bomb is a boosted, stronger nuclear bomb, with 100 to 1,000 stronger power than a regular nuclear bomb. This bomb produces immense heat and a shock wave that affects an extensive area, and despite this, it produces a smaller amount of fallout and radioactive contamination. :o The hydrogen bombs are considered to be a sophisticated, expensive and complicated weapon to develop.

Well Tony, we all know you're no brain surgeon, but you've really outdone yourself here. I bet if someone told that combining blue and yellow colors creates black, then you would believe them too.

Why don't you stick with things you can comprehend ... like how to boil water and use the bum gun. Jeeez .....

Funny how the Republicans ignore that and keep trying to blame Osama on the Democrats. :D

Blow-Job Bill Clinton was the one who let Osama get away - remember?

Anyhow, arming OBL back when was considered realpolitik.

That was then, this is now... :o

BIG mistake, stealing the Palistine to create Isreal, "thats another fine mess you got us into"!

If you had any clue about the history of the landmass, specifically who owned what and ruled it before Israel was founded, you would realise how far off you are...

But this will ofcourse de-rail this thred into another political debate-hel_l.

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A hydrogen bomb is a boosted, stronger nuclear bomb, with 100 to 1,000 stronger power than a regular nuclear bomb. This bomb produces immense heat and a shock wave that affects an extensive area, and despite this, it produces a smaller amount of fallout and radioactive contamination. :D The hydrogen bombs are considered to be a sophisticated, expensive and complicated weapon to develop.

Well Tony, we all know you're no brain surgeon, but you've really outdone yourself here. I bet if someone told that combining blue and yellow colors creates black, then you would believe them too.

Why don't you stick with things you can comprehend ... like how to boil water and use the bum gun. Jeeez .....

Ok, I promise to stick to things I comprehend.

I comprehend you've just insulted me without even a reply related to Israel's nukes.

:o

I comprehend you've just insulted me ...

Forgive me, you're more perceptive that I thought.

... without even a reply related to Israel's nukes.

What about them? It's obvious that they have them. It's obvious that they haven't used them. So what exactly is your problem? That they possess the technology and others do not?

Israel has lots of other types of sophisticated killing technology that other countries do not. The same can be said for many other countries. So what exactly is it that you are proposing? That everyone just donate their technological superiority to various rogue nations to level the strategic playing field for battle. Sorry, that's not the way the game is played.

Blow-Job Bill Clinton was the one who let Osama get away - remember?

Did I miss something? :o

Blow-Job Bill Clinton was the one who let Osama get away - remember?

Did I miss something? :D

Not a lot.

Just another armchair warrior speculating about Bush taking

a crack at Iran then bringing in Israel's nukes.

Cue Beavis and Butthead , and their hard-on for William J.

Wonder what excites them the most about him ?

His boyish good looks , intelligence , popularity or his

success with women.

:o

Blow-Job Bill Clinton was the one who let Osama get away - remember?

Did I miss something? :bah:

Not a lot.

Just another armchair warrior speculating about Bush taking

a crack at Iran then bringing in Israel's nukes.

Cue Beavis and Butthead , and their hard-on for William J.

Wonder what excites them the most about him ?

His boyish good looks , intelligence , popularity or his

success with women.

:o

That's so true!!!! :o:bah::D :D :D :D

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