The earth is flat

[Peterw42]

Always amazed that this is an actual thing for hundreds of thousands of people, there are societies, face-book groups, you-tube videos etc, who all believe the earth is indeed flat, and they have an argument for any scientific evidence to the contrary.

Are there people amongst the learned Thaivisa membership who believe this ????

[Lamkyong]

surley if it were flat wouldnt one fall off the end at some point ??  and where is the end

[sanemax]

1 minute ago, Lamkyong said:

surley if it were flat wouldnt one fall off the end at some point ??  and where is the end

Pattaya : There is nothing beyond Pattaya , just oblivion .

[Peterw42]

4 hours ago, Lamkyong said:

surley if it were flat wouldnt one fall off the end at some point ??  and where is the end

If you look at the youtube vids etc, Antarctica is the edge and it goes all around like a dinner plate shape.

 

 

[sipi]

Of course it is flat. 

If you pour water onto a sphere it runs off. 

If you pour water onto a dinner plate it stays there. 

That is why our oceans don't run away. 

[Peterw42]

30 minutes ago, sipi said:

Of course it is flat. 

If you pour water onto a sphere it runs off. 

If you pour water onto a dinner plate it stays there. 

That is why our oceans don't run away. 

sounds logical, isnt that were gravity comes into it

[jumbo]

34 minutes ago, sipi said:

Of course it is flat. 

If you pour water onto a sphere it runs off. 

If you pour water onto a dinner plate it stays there. 

That is why our oceans don't run away. 

You try a steak or pizza board and see if your water stays on

[StreetCowboy]

5 hours ago, sanemax said:

Pattaya : There is nothing beyond Pattaya , just oblivion .

Only if you're heading in that direction

[lemonjelly]

Nearly as daft as the idea of aliens making crop circles 

[jvs]

27 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

sounds logical, isnt that were gravity comes into it

There are also some tribes who believe gravity is fake,all sorts of

numbnuts out there!

[KhunBENQ]

And beware if a flat earther meets a hollow earther

And the earth circling the sun? What a nonsense!

Can't be.

[KhunBENQ]

If you are in Pattaya, go up a high-rise with your binocular and look over to Hua Hin

 

Well, the high-rise should be at least 800 meters high though.

[Peterw42]

4 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

If you are in Pattaya, go up a high-rise with your binocular and look over to Hua Hin

 

Well, the high-rise should be at least 800 meters high though.

is that an argument for flat or round ?

[sipi]

If it was a sphere everyone on the southern hemisphere  would fall off. 

[giddyup]

7 hours ago, Lamkyong said:

surley if it were flat wouldnt one fall off the end at some point ??  and where is the end

It's actually a Mobius Strip.

[sipi]

If the world was a ball you could get a pair of binoculars and you could see the back of your own head. 

[Dmaxdan]

Pattaya : There is nothing beyond Pattaya , just oblivion .

So is there any chance, due to natural erosion that Pattaya will eventually fall away into the abyss?


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[KhunBENQ]

3 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

is that an argument for flat or round ?

For round of course.

Otherwise you would theoretically be able to watch to an indefinite distance.

 

Even people in ancient centuries might have wondered why a ship with a high mast does not simply get smaller and smaller but seems to sink in the sea.

If you stand at the waterline a flat object floating on the quiet sea would "vanish" after about 5 km (depends on your height).

For the ship the distance is higher depending on the height of the mast.

Similar for the lookout on the mast: the land does not appear as a very small object in a very far distance but seems to "rise from sea".

 

To overlook the Gulf of Thailand from Pattaya to Hua Hin you would need to rise to about 800 m.

 

A little table showing what height you need to overlook the curvature of the earth to a certain distance:

   2 m :   5 km
   8 m :  10 km
 196 m :  50 km
 784 m : 100 km
1764 m : 150 km
3135 m : 200 km
4898 m : 250 km

(2 m and 8 m are rounded)

Pattaya to Hua Hin is a bit more than 100 km.

 

How high is a lookout on a ship mast?

If it's about 18 meters "land in sight" would be shouted about 15 km before the coastline (earlier if high elevations/mountains near the coast).

However big America is, Columbus needed to get that close to find it (and think he is in India ).

 

 

[StreetCowboy]

41 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

For round of course.

Otherwise you would theoretically be able to watch to an indefinite distance.

 

Even people in ancient centuries might have wondered why a ship with a high mast does not simply get smaller and smaller but seems to sink in the sea.

If you stand at the waterline a flat object floating on the quiet sea would "vanish" after about 5 km (depends on your height).

For the ship the distance is higher depending on the height of the mast.

Similar for the lookout on the mast: the land does not appear as a very small object in a very far distance but seems to "rise from sea".

 

To overlook the Gulf of Thailand from Pattaya to Hua Hin you would need to rise to about 800 m.

 

A little table showing what height you need to overlook the curvature of the earth to a certain distance:

   2 m :   5 km
   8 m :  10 km
 196 m :  50 km
 784 m : 100 km
1764 m : 150 km
3135 m : 200 km
4898 m : 250 km

(2 m and 8 m are rounded)

Pattaya to Hua Hin is a bit more than 100 km.

 

How high is a lookout on a ship mast?

If it's about 18 meters "land in sight" would be shouted about 15 km before the coastline (earlier if high elevations/mountains near the coast).

However big America is, Columbus needed to get that close to find it (and think he is in India ).

 

 

That's due to the weight of the light beams coming from the faraway ship.

Did you learn nothing at school?

[StreetCowboy]

2 hours ago, sipi said:

If the world was a ball you could get a pair of binoculars and you could see the back of your own head. 

If you were tall enough.

[KhunBENQ]

1 minute ago, StreetCowboy said:

That's due to the weight of the light beams coming from the faraway ship.

Did you learn nothing at school?

Bending of light beams!

Forgot about my Einstein lectures.

[sipi]

If the world was round then the football would roll away when placed on the pitch. 

Definitely flat. 

[sipi]

58 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

For round of course.

Otherwise you would theoretically be able to watch to an indefinite distance.

 

Even people in ancient centuries might have wondered why a ship with a high mast does not simply get smaller and smaller but seems to sink in the sea.

If you stand at the waterline a flat object floating on the quiet sea would "vanish" after about 5 km (depends on your height).

For the ship the distance is higher depending on the height of the mast.

Similar for the lookout on the mast: the land does not appear as a very small object in a very far distance but seems to "rise from sea".

 

To overlook the Gulf of Thailand from Pattaya to Hua Hin you would need to rise to about 800 m.

 

A little table showing what height you need to overlook the curvature of the earth to a certain distance:

   2 m :   5 km
   8 m :  10 km
 196 m :  50 km
 784 m : 100 km
1764 m : 150 km
3135 m : 200 km
4898 m : 250 km

(2 m and 8 m are rounded)

Pattaya to Hua Hin is a bit more than 100 km.

 

How high is a lookout on a ship mast?

If it's about 18 meters "land in sight" would be shouted about 15 km before the coastline (earlier if high elevations/mountains near the coast).

However big America is, Columbus needed to get that close to find it (and think he is in India ).

 

 

Interesting.  Next time I play hide and seek with the kids I will run 5km away and they will never find me. 

[sipi]

 

[jumbo]

10 hours ago, sipi said:

If the world was round then the football would roll away when placed on the pitch. 

Definitely flat. 

Isn't a football flat as well in your world?

[tolsti]

The Flat Earth Society has members all around the world.

[KhunBENQ]

12 hours ago, sipi said:

Interesting.  Next time I play hide and seek with the kids I will run 5km away and they will never find me.  

A bit more.

Two adults on a "flat" surface need about 10 km to vanish.

Both "stick up".

The 5 km is be theory watching a flat object, shoreline or the like.

[chrisinth]

Sorry, all your arguments are invalid if the below is true.............................

 

 

I used to live by that proverb.

[swissie]

.....and there are also some folks, that claim that during the Apollo 11 mission, Neil Armstrong was sitting at "Lulu's Bar & Grill" in Pattaya.
More worriesome (I find), is the fact that the Vice President of the United States of America believes that "the world" was created some short 6000 years ago.
Cheers.

[Damrongsak]

On 5/30/2018 at 7:54 AM, Dmaxdan said:

So is there any chance, due to natural erosion that Pattaya will eventually fall away into the abyss?

I thought it was already down there 40 years ago.  Looked like it from the top of Phu Kradueng in Loei.