Video: Who's in the wrong? Poster suggests injustice at hands of the police

[snoop1130]

Video: Who's in the wrong? Poster suggests injustice at hands of the police

 

 

CCTV from Muang district of Trang showed the moment a female motorcyclist was severely injured in a collision.

 

She is heading towards the camera on the left of the roadway when a motorcycle driven by a man cuts right in front of her.

 

This causes her to take evasive action and lose control. She then smashes head first into an approaching minivan.

 

She lived but her hospital and repair bills came to 35,000 baht.

 

Her boyfriend went on the popular site Mem Pho Dam on Facebook to say that the male motorcyclist was a volunteer and friend of the cops.

 

The police had sided with him and said that both sides were at fault. 

 

But the boyfriend called for justice for his girlfriend saying it was none of her doing. 

 

 

Source: https://mgronline.com/onlinesection/detail/9610000054342

 

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[observer90210]

Who's in the wrong ?.....obviously the one with no  "connections" ,   of course !!

Edited June 1, 2018 by observer90210

[seajae]

unfortunately the fact that she was unable to control the bike leaves her in a pickle, too many thais are incapable of riding driving and simply should not be on the road, many dont have licences and many have never had decent instructors and the tests to get the licence are p*ss poor.  The result are accidents that should never happen, the male rider did move over  in front of her but she  was undertaking and speed was what caused her to lose it & she is responsible for her own poor riding abilities, there is no way she should have had the head on, trying to underpass at speed by the look of it didnt help, she should have noticed him moving over but as usual she didnt try to slow down, too much of a hurry, typical thainess

 

Edited June 1, 2018 by seajae

[rwdrwdrwd]

Looks like her fault to me, you can see his indicators flashing, pretty obvious what he's about to do.

[retell]

clearly the guy making the turn should have been on the left side of the lane not all the way to the right , having his flasher on is something people half the time forgot to turn off ,looks more like he is going for a right turn and decided he want to go left at the last moment

[cornishcarlos]

Can someone post a direct link to video ? I don't log in to Facebook anymore ?

[futsukayoi]

10 hours ago, seajae said:

unfortunately the fact that she was unable to control the bike leaves her in a pickle, too many thais are incapable of riding driving and simply should not be on the road, many dont have licences and many have never had decent instructors and the tests to get the licence are p*ss poor.  The result are accidents that should never happen, the male rider did move over  in front of her but she  was undertaking and speed was what caused her to lose it & she is responsible for her own poor riding abilities, there is no way she should have had the head on, trying to underpass at speed by the look of it didnt help, she should have noticed him moving over but as usual she didnt try to slow down, too much of a hurry, typical thainess

 

Easy to bash the Thais but here on Koh Samui it is the foreign tourists that are the dangerous incompetents on motorbikes.  Many have never been on a bike before and have no clue how to ride.  They don't follow or understand any road rules and are often totally focused on their phone to find directions or whatever. In crashes here Thais are more often than not the victims.

[cornishcarlos]

11 minutes ago, futsukayoi said:

In crashes here Thais are more often than not the victims.

 

I doubt that very much... Sure tourists are involved in many accidents but the local population are involved in many more...

[canuckamuck]

An example of careless driving followed by an example of unskilled driving. They are both responsible. It is their good fortune that they can share the blame and not have to cover the whole thing individually

Edited June 2, 2018 by canuckamuck

[thaifan01]

The RTP are just right this time, both drivers to blame. 

[peperobi]

Both are wrong, she because of passing from the wrong side, he because don't take care of the traffic. That situation is usual in Thailand.

[Antonymous]

4 hours ago, cornishcarlos said:

Can someone post a direct link to video ? I don't log in to Facebook anymore ?

Just curious: does ThaiVisa get some kind of commission for sending people to Facebook? Nearly all the videos posted by TV are actually from Facebook. I, like you Cornish and no doubt many other TV members, don't have a Facebook account and don't want one.

 

Is it so hard for TV to post direct links to these videos so that all TV members can see them?

 

 

[kcpattaya]

The one who smashed into the minivan.
Shouldn't takeover left from the other motorbike.

[johng]

38 minutes ago, Antonymous said:

Is it so hard for TV to post direct links to these videos so that all TV members can see them?

The video works fine from a pc browser (Firefox)..I don't have Facebook either.

[Khun Paul]

The male was overtaking and immediately turning left, due care and attention is his offence. She was travelling along quite happily until the male hit her, then she lost control , possible offence due care as well, however had she NOT been hit she would have quite happily carried on, so in essence the man is at fault for being a bad rider. But as everyone here knows full well overtaking on the inside is a normal occurrence, he ( the male ) stopped in the middle of the road, while he may well have an indicator going, that means absolutely nothing here, so she did what she thought was fair, he forgot to look in his mirror ( normal ) and hit her. 50/50 . 

Edited June 2, 2018 by Khun Paul
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[Aussieroaming]

Her fault if he was indicating

[overherebc]

6 minutes ago, Aussieroaming said:

Her fault if he was indicating

Was taught in the uk by an advanced police rider a thing he called 'the last second life saver,' it's just a quick look over your left shoulder before you make the last move on a left turn and of course right shoulder on a right turn.

[richard_smith237]

The injured lady was undertaking - she is at fault. 

The injured lady was unable to control or motorcycle and brake after the initial impact - she is at fault. 

The Guy turning left did not check before making the manouvre - he is also at fault. (Did he indicate? it I can't tell).

 

In a rare example, the only person not at fault if the van driver. 

Noting another positive, the guy on the bike did not flee the scene. 

Edited June 2, 2018 by richard_smith237

[terminatorchiangmai]

7 hours ago, retell said:

clearly the guy making the turn should have been on the left side of the lane not all the way to the right , having his flasher on is something people half the time forgot to turn off ,looks more like he is going for a right turn and decided he want to go left at the last moment

That's what most of them do. Swirl to the right to make a left turn, to lazy to turn the steering wheel in the car.

Only don't understand why on a motorbike do the same , maybe doesn't see or  know better ?

[piewarmer]

4 minutes ago, terminatorchiangmai said:

That's what most of them do. Swirl to the right to make a left turn, to lazy to turn the steering wheel in the car.

Only don't understand why on a motorbike do the same , maybe doesn't see or  know better ?

the turning bike was on the wrong side of the lane to turn left, the lady passing on the inside at speed was the bigger problem IMHO

[mercman24]

C, MON guys we see this every day, this is my pet hate here, people riding scooters with indicators left on, i pull up alongside, (any biker knows the sign to make) they look across at me, and think <deleted> why is this guy making that sign at me (open/closed clenched fist), i can get on my bike now and can bet you a million , before i reach the end of beach road in Jomtien i will have seen at least a couple of riders with indicators left on, just too <deleted> lazy  lets have survey go out today and see how many you can count, its driving without due care and attention, oh silly me this is Thailand

[nahkit]

1 hour ago, johng said:

The video works fine from a pc browser (Firefox)..I don't have Facebook either.

Strange, I was about to post how 90% of the videos no longer load for me when I use Firefox, if I want to watch one I have to use Chrome. Used to be fine in Firefox up until about a month or so ago. Must be something specific to my laptop then rather than a Firefox bug.

[4MyEgo]

8 hours ago, retell said:

clearly the guy making the turn should have been on the left side of the lane not all the way to the right , having his flasher on is something people half the time forgot to turn off ,looks more like he is going for a right turn and decided he want to go left at the last moment

Your spot on, this the exact thing that happened to my late brother back in Oz, guy was stopped in one lane, talking to another car driver who was also stopped going in the opposite direction, mates who knew each other.

 

My brother was behind and saw the car stopped in the middle of the road (right lane), no hazzard lights or indicators and went to the left lane to pass, as he was passing the car turned left without a blinker, hitting my brother with the cars front guard and sending him though a shops front plate glass window, but not before he was thrown legs first into a no standing sign, the hit into the pole spinning him around and then with force through the glass window.

 

He broke two discs in his back, his tibia, two arms and never fully recovered, i.e. he was constantly in pain, his tibia and arms had steel rods put in, the tibia one kept snapping or breaking and was replaced 13 times as my brother had some weight.

 

The police charged the P plate driver for failing to put on an indicator and stopping in the middle of the road, thankfully there were witnesses, but that didn't stop them taking the matter to court trying to put the blame on my brother for overtaking in the left lane, that failed didn't it, my brother got a big payout, i.e. enough to by a basic house in a basic suburb, but couldn't work, although the government said he could, so he couldn't get a disability pension, the years that followed with pain made him take his own life through excessive drinking to numb his pain.

 

Sorry for the rant, but the bike to the right is without question at fault, that said, the female who went down, should have slowed when she saw the bike stopped, because you just never know what he person in front of you is going to do, as was the case here. 

 

As for the cost, I always thought Thai's has a medical system where they were all covered, like Medicare back in Australia, can someone correct me on this please.

 

Edited June 2, 2018 by 4MyEgo

[Thian]

2 hours ago, kcpattaya said:

The one who smashed into the minivan.
Shouldn't takeover left from the other motorbike.

Motobikes drive like water flows...if there's an opening you go there..

 

The other driver suddenly cut her off, you don't make sharp moves like that in Thailand, nobody does.

So it's his fault.

[alien365]

The lady who crashed was mostly at fault but the left turning guy should also have made one more check before turning. If the guy who was turning left was in a car with the indicator on, most would say it was the woman's fault so same applies.  I felt the mini van should have spotted this one earlier than he did too but it would have been difficult for him to avoid the bike veering towards him.

[dragonballz]

Are you all <deleted> blind or just do it to troll . The guy on the motorcycle going to turn left but pulling into the centre of the road then cutting across in front of her is 100% to blame . You cannot do a manouevre like that its crazy . If you look early in the video he is tight in where he is supposed to be for turning left but as he gets near the turn he goes wide so he does not have to slow down . His fault and if you do not think so you should not be driving . coming from a driving instuctor , for cars buses hgv1 and tracked vehicles

[alien365]

6 minutes ago, dragonballz said:

Are you all <deleted> blind or just do it to troll . The guy on the motorcycle going to turn left but pulling into the centre of the road then cutting across in front of her is 100% to blame . You cannot do a manouevre like that its crazy . If you look early in the video he is tight in where he is supposed to be for turning left but as he gets near the turn he goes wide so he does not have to slow down . His fault and if you do not think so you should not be driving . coming from a driving instuctor , for cars buses hgv1 and tracked vehicles

I'll have to remember that next time I see someone indicating left that it's safe to undertake them because a driving instructor for cars, buses hgv1 and tracked vehicles says so... 

[overherebc]

14 minutes ago, alien365 said:

I'll have to remember that next time I see someone indicating left that it's safe to undertake them because a driving instructor for cars, buses hgv1 and tracked vehicles says so... 

T junction at the end the street where my soi is I see cars/motorbikes going both directions, some with indicators flashing, some without, some turn some don't. Some flash indicators to let you know they're there or maybe to turn, who knows?

I ignore all indicators on other vehicles here 100% and wait until I have space to turn left or right at the T.

[Aussieroaming]

4 hours ago, overherebc said:

Was taught in the uk by an advanced police rider a thing he called 'the last second life saver,' it's just a quick look over your left shoulder before you make the last move on a left turn and of course right shoulder on a right turn.

Agreed, I did an advanced rider course in Australia and they definitely emphasized defensive riding there as well. Its something lacking here and other places that i have lived. The riding style here is to never look over your shoulder and to rely on those behind taking action. Not smart for anyone.

[dunroaming]

Unfortunately it is pointless to expect justice in Thailand.  It is all about who knows who and who has the fattest brown envelopes!  Feel very sorry for the girl who did nothing wrong but T.I.T