Tricked up super expensive new breed Brough Superior .. Pendine edt .. 

So what constitutes “super expensive”?

That’s a badass sled...

3 hours ago, mogandave said:

So what constitutes “super expensive”?

That’s a badass sled...

Near £60,000 for above .. 

28 minutes ago, Justgrazing said:

Near £60,000 for above .. 

Yes, nice bikes, read and seen a couple of articles on them.

However, you will have to give him the price in Euros.

They are made (inc the engines) in France...

Got a thing for air cooled Monsters, ever since i saw the first ones in 93-94. Always have, always will.

Even like the new 2018 model 797 with 75 bhp and 50 Ib/ft torque.

Got a test ride booked on one once the weather clears.

Prices have collapsed on the 795-796-1100 models over here. Think i'll have to buy one next year.

Even the 'orrible 821 water cooled ones have prices that have gone silly for a 3-4 y/o bike.

 

1 hour ago, thaiguzzi said:

Got a thing for air cooled Monsters, ever since i saw the first ones in 93-94. Always have, always will.

There you go Guzz' couple of alternative takes on Monster munch and a super super skinny single ..

5 hours ago, mogandave said:

So what constitutes “super expensive”?

That’s a badass sled...

Alternatively if you've got the odd £600,000 kicking about some of the old breed Brough's are available .. 

Early 70's 750 Kawa square4 2-stroke never put into production .. 

 

Smooth as Silk .. Came into being at probably the worst possible time just when everyone else were dropping big capacity 2 strokes .. Said to be a good machine to ride with a lot of punch from that engine .. made in Derbyshire and with only 130 odd ever made they fetch big dollars now .. 

 

cool thread

 

my porn of old times was Husqvarna 250s, two stroke - very potent things

 

here is another piece, not so sexy but;

 

 

Jawa CZ 350, 2 stroke, very tunable engine

 

I didna use the CZ bikes much but used two of these 350 engines on mi go karts (also used 2 Renault disc brakes)

fast as lightning - incredibly tunable friendly engines - easy to dig out HPs

great fun driving on roads  like M25 or Beltway if you like

did well over 200 clicks - with just unbelievable acceleration

 

2 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Smooth as Silk .. Came into being at probably the worst possible time just when everyone else were dropping big capacity 2 strokes .. Said to be a good machine to ride with a lot of punch from that engine .. made in Derbyshire and with only 130 odd ever made they fetch big dollars now .. 

Check the gearbox out!

Basically a bored and stroked Scott, in a modern rolling chassis

But i concur, very nice machines in the wrong place in the wrong time.

37 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said:

Check the gearbox out!

Basically a bored and stroked Scott, in a modern rolling chassis

But i concur, very nice machines in the wrong place in the wrong time.

Yeah I hear the gearbox was a Velocette 4 speed job and engine based on Scott's design .. These on the other hand the Hesketh V1000 I've heard are quite fragile in the engine dept but again if you've got one fetch strong dosh now .. Quite like the jade(ish) green paint on this one though ...

On 8/30/2018 at 1:00 AM, thaiguzzi said:

Got a thing for air cooled Monsters ...

Guy on one of my small forums just got a deal on something similar.  I don't know if he kept his Guzzi or not.  He seems to like the relatively simple bikes. 

 

9 hours ago, Damrongsak said:

He seems to like the relatively simple bikes. 

Yep, call me a simpleton too.

Never owned a DOHC bike.

Never owned a water cooled bike.

Never (since i was 17) owned a bike that's had to be worked on in someone else's shop.

Only ever owned 2 FI bikes. Both air cooled Guzzis back in the UK.

If you are a mechanic, you appreciate simple design & engineering.

And 2 valve air cooled Ducatis (OHC) and Moto Guzzis (OHV) are an absolute pleasure to work on.

 

41 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said:

...If you are a mechanic, you appreciate simple design & engineering.

I was a mechanic at a Suzuki dealership in the US about 1973.  They had pistons and points.  What's a valve?  Cam?  My buddies were running Husqvarna and CZ MX bikes. Along with the odd Ossa and Montesa. Guy up the street ran Bultacos in scrambles or flat track. I did ride a Maico 400 MX bike for about 5 minutes.  Woof!  Scary. 

 

41 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said:

... And 2 valve air cooled Ducatis (OHC) and Moto Guzzis (OHV) are an absolute pleasure to work on.

 

That pic I posted is a 2 valve. Back in about 1973 I saw a used Ducati 250 or 350 single that was of interest, but didn't pursue it.

 

Edit:  When I get back over there, I'm going to grab a Kawa KLX 150 enduro bike first thing, just because.  40 years ago, I regret not getting an old, restored BMW 250 single.

7 minutes ago, Damrongsak said:

That pic I posted is a 2 valve.

Ducati never made a 4V air cooled twin. All the air cooled motors are 2V.

Which is why i like them.

4 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said:

Ducati never made a 4V air cooled twin. All the air cooled motors are 2V.

Which is why i like them.

I'm a 2-stroke guy, what do I know?  One thingie goes up and down, shit goes in and out. Yeah, never-mind rotary or reed valves. Though we did repair a little Suzuki 100cc bike that someone had tweaked.  Holy shit, that thing screamed!  Our resident MX expert (rode Suzuki 400 and Husky 250s) had all kinds of fun in the gravel parking lot with that one.  Professional test drive, of course.

I had a little Suzuki DS 100 dirt bike for a while...crazy for a bike that small.

Back in the ‘70s, Suzuki had a nice distribution center and showroom right off the 5 freeway in Santa Fe Springs...

1 hour ago, Damrongsak said:

I was a mechanic at a Suzuki dealership in the US about 1973.  They had pistons and points.  What's a valve?  Cam?  My buddies were running Husqvarna and CZ MX bikes. Along with the odd Ossa and Montesa. Guy up the street ran Bultacos in scrambles or flat track. I did ride a Maico 400 MX bike for about 5 minutes.  Woof!  Scary. 

 

That pic I posted is a 2 valve. Back in about 1973 I saw a used Ducati 250 or 350 single that was of interest, but didn't pursue it.

 

Edit:  When I get back over there, I'm going to grab a Kawa KLX 150 enduro bike first thing, just because.  40 years ago, I regret not getting an old, restored BMW 250 single.

Ahhh, memories - memories, Bultaco - great stuff

 

when you, as an American?, say flat track, what do you actually mean?

 

when I hear flat track I think of two things, speedway - driving around a soccer court about 400 meters (gravel or ice)

or, what we call 1000 meter long track

 

you do 1000 m long track in the US?

Jap 500 - long stroke engines?

 

2 hours ago, Damrongsak said:

When I get back over there, I'm going to grab a Kawa KLX 150 enduro bike first thing, just because.  40 years ago, I regret not getting an old, restored BMW 250 single.

Same as Dam' .?

Bad ass CBX1000 with one rocket launcher of an exhaust .. 

Old AJS 

Not so old lovely Duke single

Yamaha baby V twin .. 

1970's chief badboy mischief maker .. KH750 

Cool old Sunbeam and an unusual Norton Ariel crossover .. 

a nice Jap

 

 

not sure, but would guess this one is speedway issue rather than long track

 

German Tornax with JAP engine .. Who'd have thunk that .. Germans buying Brit engines .. T'was the case though until Nazis put a stop to imports early 30's .. 

Might be wrong but I thought that the JAPs were quite popular in Europe as a whole,

at least those long stroked engines used for speedway and long track

 

2 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

Might be wrong but I thought that the JAPs were quite popular in Europe as a whole,

at least those long stroked engines used for speedway and long track

 

I seem to recall single cyl JAP's were the engine of choice in speedway before Jawa became popular .. 

yes, and if I recall correctly the JAPs, for speedway and long track, very very popular well into the 1960s

 

3 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

yes, and if I recall correctly the JAPs, for speedway and long track, very very popular well into the 1960s

 

Yep an' running on ethanol alcohol from what I remember but it was a long time ago now ..