Ok. Home snake alert. What is it to be sure?

[holy cow cm]

Ok. I have one rule. If I cannot identify it as friendly and on my property, I kill it as have family. Outside of that they can do what ever they want. The other live one got away but I also found these hatched eggs. Who can tell me what it is? 

Thank you,

[holy cow cm]

sort of looks like same stripes. Is it a baby cobra? 

 

[sammieuk1]

Looks like a chopped one to me the dustpan looks equally in trouble.

[holy cow cm]

[holy cow cm]

Just now, holy cow cm said:

Here are 2 more for the snake guy to tell me what it is . Don't mind snakes so much, but 7 eggs and hatched and seeing one that got away it bothering unless know species. 

[cmsally]

Golden tree snake - harmless

 

[Aforek]

may be true, but the designs on the head are not the same

 

maybe a Keeled Rat snake 

golden tree snakes are a little bit venomous but not for humans

Edited July 26, 2018 by Aforek

[holy cow cm]

9 minutes ago, cmsally said:

Golden tree snake - harmless

 

Hi Sally. Do you have any better pics? doesn't fit the bill to the real pics. I'm going back out to pull stuff out when the rain stops

[holy cow cm]

10 minutes ago, Aforek said:

may be true, but the draws on the head are not the same

 

maybe a Keeled Rat snake 

goldentree snake are a little bit venimous 

That's' kind of what I thought or an Indo China rat snake, but the eggs are as big as my thumb and 4.5cm long x 2cm cm wide so momma must have been a pretty good size to kick out 7 of them. So the little darlings are slithering around in my walled in property. 

 

[worgeordie]

Golden tree snake for sure,pity you had to kill them,

as beautiful and harmless.

regards Worgeordie

[holy cow cm]

2 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

Golden tree snake for sure,pity you had to kill them,

as beautiful and harmless.

regards Worgeordie

Are you sure? No pictures really match up to a reference of that. do you have a one that is close to my pics?. No worries so far, I only killed the one. The rest are slithering around my wall borders somewhere. Are they poisonous? Only way into my property is that they would have to climb a 8 ft wall. Possible?

 

[worgeordie]

Just now, holy cow cm said:

Are you sure? No pictures really match up to a reference of that. do you have a one that is close to my pics?. No worries so far, I only killed the one. The rest are slithering around my wall borders somewhere. Are they poisonous? Only way into my property is that they would have to climb a 8 ft wall. Possible?

 

Yes sure,I have seen one "fly" from one building to another, your wall would not be an obstacle,

 they mostly live in trees,and eat frogs ,and lizards,and are very fast,get out of the way quickly

only very mildly venomous,like a bee sting at most. 

regards worgeordie

[holy cow cm]

5 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

Yes sure,I have seen one "fly" from one building to another, your wall would not be an obstacle,

 they mostly live in trees,and eat frogs ,and lizards,and are very fast,get out of the way quickly

only very mildly venomous,like a bee sting at most. 

regards worgeordie

Yes, it is either a Keel rat snake as it more resembles this one, or could be as you say a Golden tree snake. I will leave the rest of the 6 alone and shoo them out if they get in my way. Thank you everyone. 

[cmsally]

If it is a keeled rat snake then the body shape even in the young , fairly triangular. It is difficult to tell from the picture.  Markings on the golden tree snakes differ a lot. Some hardly have any stripes and some are very pronounced in the stripes.

[Aforek]

2 hours ago, holy cow cm said:

Are you sure? No pictures really match up to a reference of that. do you have a one that is close to my pics?. 

 

I don't pretend I am right, I just looked in " thailand snakes " which is  written in " Get the book" , on the right of this site https://www.thailandsnakes.com/thailand-snhttps://www.thailandsnakes.com/thailand-snake-notes/most-common-snakes/ake-notes/most-common-snakes/

I know "golden tree snakes, " but your snake has no design above it's head, " golden tree snakes " have beautiful colours ; but may be I am wrong because cmsally says the colours differ a lot ; let's say it's " golden tree snake " 

Edited July 26, 2018 by Aforek

[cmsally]

Its often difficult to tell especially young ones. Although unless the picture is magnified I am wondering whether indeed they might be rat snakes. Because I have seen many newly hatched golden tree snakes and they don't look that big. But it maybe because the picture is magnified so the scale is a bit confusing.

[holy cow cm]

On ‎7‎/‎26‎/‎2018 at 3:42 PM, Aforek said:

I don't pretend I am right, I just looked in " thailand snakes " which is  written in " Get the book" , on the right of this site https://www.thailandsnakes.com/thailand-snhttps://www.thailandsnakes.com/thailand-snake-notes/most-common-snakes/ake-notes/most-common-snakes/

I know "golden tree snakes, " but your snake has no design above it's head, " golden tree snakes " have beautiful colours ; but may be I am wrong because cmsally says the colours differ a lot ; let's say it's " golden tree snake " 

Also resembled an Indo Chinese rat snake. What ever it is the momma must have been 2 meters or so as 7 eggs all big thumb size were a lot.

[kannot]

On 7/26/2018 at 12:46 PM, holy cow cm said:

sort of looks like same stripes. Is it a baby cobra? 

 

no  not  at  all

[kannot]

On 7/26/2018 at 1:12 PM, cmsally said:

Golden tree snake - harmless

 

nope

[kannot]

On 7/26/2018 at 1:31 PM, worgeordie said:

Golden tree snake for sure,pity you had to kill them,

as beautiful and harmless.

regards Worgeordie

it  isnt a golden  tree  snake

[kannot]

On 7/26/2018 at 1:59 PM, holy cow cm said:

Yes, it is either a Keel rat snake as it more resembles this one, or could be as you say a Golden tree snake. I will leave the rest of the 6 alone and shoo them out if they get in my way. Thank you everyone. 

God some crap talked here for identification, its an Indo Chinese  juvenile rat snake............google  it.Ill save your time its the LAST photo here on the right .NOTE "juvenile" they change with age

https://bangkokherps.wordpress.com/2011/05/01/indo-chinese-rat-snake/

[kannot]

On 7/26/2018 at 1:27 PM, holy cow cm said:

That's' kind of what I thought or an Indo China rat snake, but the eggs are as big as my thumb and 4.5cm long x 2cm cm wide so momma must have been a pretty good size to kick out 7 of them. So the little darlings are slithering around in my walled in property. 

 

I really would not worry about them at all, if  they see you they will "run" faster than u can, I have one here about 2  metres, when it sees me boy is it off like a shot

[holy cow cm]

12 minutes ago, kannot said:

no  not  at  all

I gathered that already. Just threw it out there. I actually have killed a cobra here before, but they have many types. Yes, they all have the hood.  

[holy cow cm]

5 minutes ago, kannot said:

I really would not worry about them at all, if  they see you they will "run" faster than u can, I have one here about 2  metres, when it sees me boy is it off like a shot

I don't . Just like to have them identified. We live by water so snakes are a part of life sometimes. It is just a little freaky when you also cache of hatched eggs in your walled in property. 

[55Jay]

+1 with Kannot above, Rat Snake.

 

If you use FacePlant, there's a very good group with knowledgeable Mods and members on there called Snakes of Issan.  Post a photo, the responses are quick and accurate. 

 

They also have pages for other locations, Pattaya, etc. 

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1076644525809817/

[BritManToo]

6 minutes ago, 55Jay said:

If you use FacePlant, there's a very good group with knowledgeable Mods and members on there called Snakes of Issan.  Post a photo, the responses are quick and accurate. 

They also have pages for other locations, Pattaya, etc. 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1076644525809817/

 

The Issan snake facebook page will redirect your question to the Chiang Mai snake facebook page.

They don't appreciate 'out of area' posters.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/121136308469728/about/

Edited July 28, 2018 by BritManToo

[55Jay]

Just now, BritManToo said:

The Issan snake facebook page will redirect your question to the Chiang Mai snake facebook page.

They don't appreciate 'out of area' posters.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/121136308469728/about/

Yup.  Clicked this topic from the suggested topics on the right margin, didn't notice it was CM thread.  Thanks.

[kannot]

1 hour ago, holy cow cm said:

I don't . Just like to have them identified. We live by water so snakes are a part of life sometimes. It is just a little freaky when you also cache of hatched eggs in your walled in property. 

Id  find  that really interesting personally.

[dunrudin]

Juvenile colours differ heaps from adult colouring. Hard to tell.

[dotpoom]

Have had at least 8 snakes in my house during my years here....couldn't care less about their names/speices. Neve had to kill one or ever would it enter my head to do so.

   I actually believe that a snake has as much "right to life" as I have.