Alleged Koh Tao rape victim in her first interview accuses police of suppressing truth

[sanemax]

1 minute ago, Just Weird said:

She won't even be interviewed by the only police who can investigate so what are the chances that she'd take lie detector test!

Although those KT Police who can investigate  are on the rapists payroll .

[AlexRich]

1 hour ago, Just Weird said:

And it appears that you think that every girl who has ever reported a rape has been found to be being truthful.  That's not the case

 

It appears in your mind that every girl who reports rape is a liar. 

[Just Weird]

On ‎9‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 10:39 AM, Bangkok Barry said:

 

She already tried to file the complaint and they refused to accept it. Why should she need to fly 10,000 kms back to Thailand to do it again? They know she won't, so they can then say they offered to investigate and she refused to cooperate. Clever tactics. The Thai authorities are old hands at this game and know every trick in the book to get off the hook.

"She already tried to file the complaint and they refused to accept it".

That's only her allegation, it's not proven fact yet.

 

"Why should she need to fly 10,000 kms back to Thailand to do it again?"

She doesn't need to, she can do it in London if she's prepared to be interviewed about her story.  Seems that she doesn't want to take that risk, though.

[AlexRich]

6 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

She won't even be interviewed by the only police who can investigate so what are the chances that she'd take lie detector test!

 

They failed to register her complaint at the time, why would they then wish to interview her? Later the Big Joke character stated that no crime took place and threatened to ban her for besmirching the good name of Koh Tao. Given that it is well documented that the mafia control this island, and the Police who work on it, you seem very keen to proclaim the girl a liar ... a sad apologist for rapists and criminals.

[Just Weird]

On ‎9‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 10:59 AM, Bartmam said:

Allegedly!

 

Firstly she wasn't alone. She was with her boyfriend who was also drugged and robbed. Fortunately he wasn't ass raped like she allegedly was.

He wasn't her boyfriend, he had offered to escort her back to the hostel (via the beach, for some reason) after she complained of feeling drowsy. Listen to her Times story.

 

He was not there when she "woke up" after taking her there, why did he bugger off and not stay to assist her but just left her on the beach alone?  Allegedly.

[Just Weird]

On ‎9‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 11:04 AM, sanemax said:

Are you suggesting that because that woman made an allegation that was unfounded, that all subsequent allegations are also unfounded ?

I'm sure that he's not but there are a lot of posters here who are suggesting that because some Thai police may have lied or not been as competent as they could have been in the past that all Thai police are therefore liars and incompetents. There needs to be some balance here, they can't have it both ways without being hypocrites.

[sanemax]

1 minute ago, Just Weird said:

I'm sure that he's not but there are a lot of posters here who are suggesting that because some Thai police may have lied or not been as competent as they could have been in the past that all Thai police are therefore liars and incompetents. There needs to be some balance here, they can't have it both ways without being hypocrites.

We are talking about the Police on KT .

The Thai Police on KT are................................well we all know about them .

No need for me to say it all again ,

Those are the people whom we are talking about .

The very same people who ...............well, we all know about them

[Just Weird]

On ‎9‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 11:12 AM, BritManToo said:

OK, you've convinced me, the UK police should investigate.

So first step would be for them to interview the 4 male friends she was with, then DNA test them.

UK police usually investigate the last bloke she was with of drugging and raping her, no need to involve Thailand at all.

Most rape is nearly always someone they know.

Right...and in this case that would be the man that offered to escort the drowsy girl back to the hostel, via the beach (for some odd reason), and then left her there to wake up alone, according to her story to The Times.

[Just Weird]

On ‎9‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 11:46 AM, sanemax said:

No , the RTP didnt offer to go to the UK and interview her, as you keep on saying .

The RTP told her to speak to the UK Police (which she had already done )

They did.  Read the link that's been posted several times for god's sake.

[Just Weird]

On ‎9‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 1:05 PM, TPI said:

Hasn't she a DNA sample on her clothes? Hasn't she submitted them to Scotland Yard? What sort of proof do YOU need????

You seriously think that just having someone's DNA on a shirt is proof of her allegation that she was raped?

[Just Weird]

On ‎9‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 1:55 PM, Basil B said:

As I recall in the very first reports of this rape, the victim claimed the police would not record details of the rape, so no surprise they have no record of it.

 

Secondly the the request of the RTP to interview the victim in London, what is the motive? to seriously investigate the crime or discredit the the victim?

 

I am sure I have the same views as the victim on this and that's why she will not take up the the RTP's offer.

So how do you expect the case to proceed with no official complaint from the alleged victim to the police and her refusing to be interviewed by the only people who can do so?

[NanLaew]

5 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I do admit to being a racist, I don't like white folk much. (which is why I'm living in Thailand)

I particularly dislike white men that defend all white women, even though those same white women despised and rejected them all their lives. 

I deny being a misogynist, as I tend to sleep with many Asian women, if I hated women I'd have nothing to do with them (I also had sex with many white women in my younger years).

 

Those men who cry 'misogynist' are usually Incels, despised equally by all women of all races.

Based on your reasoning on why you think you're racist and your reasoning why you don't think you're a misogynist, along with your admission to a curiously nuanced homophobia, you're probably just another, common-or-garden sociopath.

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[Just Weird]

On ‎9‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 3:55 PM, BigC said:

Says allot for british authorizes then lol

No it doesn't, it does say a lot about Cranky and his posting nonsense, though.

[Just Weird]

23 hours ago, Walter Travolta said:

So are you suggesting that because the Thai police are maybe a bit crooked and might not give the complaint the due dilligence it deserves, she may as well not bother?

 

Some of us believe she is lying and some of us believe the cops are sweeping it under the carpet. Whatever the truth is, Happy Enough is correct in what he/she says. The process can only begin if she comes back to Thailand with the clothing evidence and files the complaint there. 

 

My own personal opinion, and has been from the start, is she is lying. I guess if she decides not to go back to Thailand, we will never know

"The process can only begin if she comes back to Thailand with the clothing evidence and files the complaint there". 

The process can also begin if she agrees to interviewed in London as has been offered!

[Just Weird]

22 hours ago, AlexRich said:

 

Happily Enough is unfortunately ill-informed but you are absolutely clueless ... the girl reported the rape and theft to Thai Police but they refused to register her rape complaint. This happened in Thailand, you'll be pleased to know. 

 

The Thai authorities have already portrayed her as a liar, despite not registering her complaint and receiving no statement from her directly. Indeed, they appear to want to ban her from the country for besmirching the reputation of Koh Tao island ... now that is what's really laughable. 

 

Another apologist for rape and criminality. Let's hope you can dance as well as your brother John, Walter, I'd hate to think of you as just an angry bar dweller with little to offer the world but bile and misogyny.

 

"Happily Enough is unfortunately ill-informed but you are absolutely clueless ... the girl reported the rape and theft to Thai Police but they refused to register her rape complaint".

That's just her allegation, it's not proven to be true...by a mile.

[Just Weird]

22 hours ago, Walter Travolta said:

 "If BIB wants to, they could send an officer to the UK to interview the lady in person."

 

You are not serious surely? She makes a complaint of rape and you expect the cops to travel half way round the world to her?

Utopia is missing a unicorn

Jesus Christ, the link in which the RTP offered to do that has been posted on this thread a few times already!

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[Just Weird]

22 hours ago, Walter Travolta said:

Big whoop! Are they the fonts of all knowledge sitting on clouds like the gods in Jason and the argonauts or mere mortals with opinions? 

No, we're not but at least we can read, can you?

 

https://www.thephuketnews.com/no-evidence-of-koh-tao-rape-say-police-68447.php#YMPLDrivLgL0HjcT.97

Edited September 12, 2018 by Just Weird

[NanLaew]

5 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I think people who are victims of any crime should go as soon as possible to the police and report the crime. And if the police does not listen then go again with a witness and/or a lawyer. It's obvious that it's  a lot easier to investigates crimes which just happened compared to crimes which happened weeks or even longer ago.

 

So if a person does not come forward right away after the alleged crime this brings up the questions of why. And I don't think "I wanted to go to the full moon party this is why I didn't report it" is a good enough reason.

Agree wholeheartedly with the first paragraph. However, based on my suspicion that the victim was probably aware of the 'shortcomings' of the police on KT (which I suggested earlier is why she decided to go to KP with a friend/witness), maybe, after being dissed by the KP cops, she thought if I try and pursue this here, it may not end well at all.

 

As for your alleged "I wanted to go to the full moon party this is why I didn't report it", that's purely a speculative inference based on what the police say the owner of the KT resort where the victim stayed had told them. I reckon if ever a proper citation is badly needed, it is here.

 

This from The Nation on August 27, 2018.

 

"Phangan police commander Pol Colonel Sathit Kongniam told reporters the woman arrived at his station with a male friend and filed a complaint saying only that she’d been robbed of money and her belongings while on Koh Tao.

His men “tried to tell her to file the complaint on Koh Tao because the incident happened there”, Sathit said. “The two claimed it was inconvenient, so we took the complaint.”

The woman said she wanted police documentation so she could claim insurance, Sathit said. “She said nothing about being assaulted or raped.”

After he learned about the rape allegation, Sathit said, he assigned officers to check security cameras in the area of the bar on Koh Tao where the woman claimed to have dined prior to the incident."

 

So the KP police said they have no jurisdiction on something that happened on KT, but they took the robbery complaint... but then the KP police went and checked the cctv on KT anyway, after the fact? Jurisdiction or no jurisdiction, which is it? Selective jurisdiction maybe?

 

[0815]

On 9/10/2018 at 5:11 PM, Just1Voice said:

Apparently she has some article of clothing she will submit for DNA testing.  But unless it contains semen, and not sweat, she could have picked that up anywhere. 

Back home in July, will give the shirt to the police for a DNA test around Christmas ?
Or where are the results if the test happened already ?
Sorry, but my guess is that the story of that princess is b**l***t.

[Just Weird]

21 hours ago, oldlakey said:

Something else you have missed, apparently they are very keen about travelling to the UK to interview the young lady

Well that's according to one apologist anyway

More than one and it's not according to us, it's according to the RTP officer who was quoted.

[Bangkok Barry]

1 hour ago, Just Weird said:

"She already tried to file the complaint and they refused to accept it".

That's only her allegation, it's not proven fact yet.

 

"Why should she need to fly 10,000 kms back to Thailand to do it again?"

She doesn't need to, she can do it in London if she's prepared to be interviewed about her story.  Seems that she doesn't want to take that risk, though.

 

They have requested that she return to Thailand.

[Just Weird]

20 hours ago, DavisH said:

Go to Facebook and find Suttichai Yoon. He has an interview with Martin Phu, who was also allegedly drugged and was with the girl. Both had passed out on the beach in the early hours of the morning. The interview was published 8th September and is easy to find. The victim reports awakening with no underwear on and with a Thai man standing over her. He then fled the scene.

"The victim reports awakening with no underwear on and with a Thai man standing over her. He then fled the scene".

As had "the friend" who took the drowsy girl to the beach, instead of taking her directly back to their hostel.  Why did he recover from his drowsiness and bugger off leaving her alone, allegedly raped, or to be raped, allegedly?

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[Just Weird]

19 hours ago, DavisH said:

She said Thai, but obviously, it could have been any similarly looking asian. I'm just reporting on what was stated in the video. 

You are not reporting what was said in The Times video, you are fabricating it.  She did not say "Thai", she just said "a guy".

[Just Weird]

7 hours ago, NanLaew said:

The Times isn't a tabloid either.

The Times isn't a tabloid either.

Yes, it is.   The Sunday Times isn't but this interview was in The Times.

[oldlakey]

1 minute ago, Just Weird said:

The Times isn't a tabloid either.

Yes, it is.   The Sunday Times isn't but this interview was in The Times.

You cannot be serious, but if you are that says it all

[Just Weird]

5 hours ago, DM07 said:

And so it starts again!

A women gets (allegedly, at this point!) raped on Koh Tao and you can count on TV's finest to start the victim blaming (What was she doing on the beach...alone...why did she get drunk...blablah...) or defending the glorious RTP, who have the cleanest track record in the world, especially on Koh Tao!

 

And so it starts again!

A women gets (allegedly, at this point!) raped on Koh Tao and you can count on TV's finest to start the RTP blaming  or defending the glorious, drunk British girl, who refuses to be interviewed by the only people who can process her, alleged, case!

[oldlakey]

3 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

And so it starts again!

A women gets (allegedly, at this point!) raped on Koh Tao and you can count on TV's finest to start the RTP blaming  or defending the glorious, drunk British girl, who refuses to be interviewed by the only people who can process her, alleged, case!

Some of us have difficulty forgetting the past events of which there have been many on that island

That's the way it is