Trump ex-campaign head Manafort changes mind, cooperates in Russia probe

[KMartinHandyman]

Thing is ya never can tell where special investigations end up.

Remember Clinton started off with Whitewater and ended up with Monica Lewinsky!

Who knows if Manafort has dirt on Trump, or maybe one of his children, associates, impossible to tell.

The one thing about Manafort, it's a pretty tight lipped investigation, not a lot of leaks, opposed as I seem to recall of the Starr investigation against Clinton.

With Trump himself, I'm more inclined to think it just gonna be sleeze, rather than criminality, but who knows.

Of course the same GOP that decried Clintons immorality, now seems perfectly OK with paying off porn stars for affairs, but different times I guess

Yes different times. Clinton’s good time was with an intern in the White House during his presidency and Trump’s was with a pornstar in a whorehouse before his presidency.

[GinBoy2]

11 minutes ago, KMartinHandyman said:

Yes different times. Clinton’s good time was with an intern in the White House during his presidency and Trump’s was with a pornstar in a whorehouse before his presidency.

In some rather bizzaro way, it’s always hilarious that you can reconcile the absurdity of that in your head

[bendejo]

7 hours ago, Jingthing said:

True but Pence with his funeral director affect and checked by a democratic controlled congress is much closer to normalcy and also excellent chance of changing the potus in 2020.

 

I reckon Pence would also face a strong primary challenge as well as his legitimacy being elected with "trump" would be soiled.

 

 

My fear is that Pence, empty suit that he is, will just rubber-stamp anything the GOP puts in front of him -- this is not easy for me to say, but I'd rather have the recalcitrant third grader in there.  That sanctimonious head-shake he does sells well, pre-programmed into the god-fearing Christians (he shakes it slowly so you won't hear it rattle ).

 

When all this comes to pass there will need to be a cleansing of the government apparatus, particularly the GOP enablers.  It's time for them to step forth now and make their '<deleted> a-hole' statements so they can recall them when the cleanup hearings finally happen.  I think the author of the anushamush memo sent it out as a pre-emptive measure to distance himself from boss baby.

 

 

[bendejo]

6 hours ago, GinBoy2 said:

Trump is being investigated by Special Counsel Robert Mueller over allegations his campaign colluded with Russia. Trump has repeatedly called the probe to be halted.

Much more to it than the collusion angle.  A few weeks ago Mueller used the term RICO in regards to the case, which is what they call it when going after a criminal organization.  And with all such, the prize is to capture the guy at the top.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act

 

Soft sentences are used to entice the underlings (2 week sentence?  People sit in jail longer than that while pending trial!).  Mob hit men get 5 years (or maybe even witness protection freedom) for multiple murders if they deliver on "da boss."  If Pauly delivers the damning evidence they need, his sentence could be "time served"; given that the alternative is facing living out your life in the lock-up....

 

I'd like to see all this come to an end soon just as much as the Fox News choir, but I want to see solid indictments.  You don't take the cake out of the oven until it's done.

 

 

[Jingthing]

12 minutes ago, bendejo said:

Much more to it than the collusion angle.  A few weeks ago Mueller used the term RICO in regards to the case, which is what they call it when going after a criminal organization.  And with all such, the prize is to capture the guy at the top.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act

 

Soft sentences are used to entice the underlings (2 week sentence?  People sit in jail longer than that while pending trial!).  Mob hit men get 5 years (or maybe even witness protection freedom) for multiple murders if they deliver on "da boss."  If Pauly delivers the damning evidence they need, his sentence could be "time served"; given that the alternative is facing living out your life in the lock-up....

 

I'd like to see all this come to an end soon just as much as the Fox News choir, but I want to see solid indictments.  You don't take the cake out of the oven until it's done.

 

 

It's getting there!

 

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‘Robert Mueller’s real quest here is for the truth’: How Paul Manafort’s plea brings the special counsel probe closer to its end game

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On Friday, though, the special counsel finally nabbed his white whale. Manafort, whose role in the Trump campaign and ties to a Russian-aligned strongman and a suspected Russian intelligence agent make him an enticing cooperator, pleaded guilty to conspiracy to defraud the United States and obstruction of justice. As part of his agreement with prosecutors, he said he would tell the special counsel’s office all that he knows.

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/robert-muellers-real-quest-here-is-for-the-truth-how-paul-manaforts-plea-brings-the-special-counsel-probe-closer-to-its-end-game/2018/09/15/3fc75b92-b84a-11e8-a7b5-adaaa5b2a57f_story.html

[mtls2005]

As a result of the Manafort plea, the government will seize ~ $30 million of his assets, including a condo in Trump Tower.

 

So the "argument" that this investigation is costing "so much money" (~ $26 million to date) is somewhat moot.

 

Beats GoFundMe.

 

 

 

Robert Mueller may have just eliminated one of Trump’s biggest complaints

 

Trump likes to complain about the cost of the Mueller probe. It might just have paid for itself.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/14/robert-mueller-may-have-just-eliminated-one-trumps-biggest-complaints/?utm_term=.7f5c8e428f83

 

 

 

 

 

[Scott]

Troll posts removed. 

[Basil B]

And Trumps nett worth 3.1$ Billion.

 

could be a big pay day for the national coffers...