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SURVEY: Did the FBI and DOJ conspire on Russian collusion?

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SURVEY: Did the FBI and DOJ conspire on Russian collusion?  

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25+ senior officials in the FBI A DOJ have been fired, demoted, or resigned over ethics of this so called investigation. There is no doubt they were and many still are conspiring to impeach, or at the

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With all the evidence that's been forthcoming - overwhelming evidence we might add, it's obvious that the FBI is complicit in manufacturing a false narrative to frame a duly elected President.  S

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5 minutes ago, Becker said:

Who - TonyClifton and the rest of the 8 year olds?

Do you have a bias towards young people with a opinion that's different from yours.Then on top of it you throw more insults.

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Didn't vote.  This isn't an A or B thing at this point.  It's also not just about FBI/DOJ.  The baseline question is did Trump collude or not.

 

Investigative bias is real, because it involves humans.  Bias in an investigation is real too.  I've felt it and had to check myself a few times.  Not saying that's the case here, but also not deluding myself to think FBI agents and DOJ personnel are immune and above it all.

 

At the same time, wrt collusion, taking Trump's life history, character and personality into account, I think it's entirely plausible that he would be down with this kind of intrigue.  And this can lead to all sorts of ideas and they can (and do) take on a life of their own in the media industry, cause it's juicy.

 

Do I think he actually did it though?  No.  I don't like him but I don't think he's "that" stupid.

 

I'm not convinced, however, that members of Trump's staff/family didn't dance around the edge of that campfire. 

 

Otherwise, internet boiler rooms, trolls and robo-voice Youtube propaganda vids by Russians and Iranians, aren't a secret.

 

I'm still interested to see if Manafort will provide some new wrinkles, or outright revelations.  In the absence of that, it's about time to wrap this thing up.

 

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24 minutes ago, 55Jay said:

Investigative bias is real, because it involves humans.  Bias in an investigation is real too.  I've felt it and had to check myself a few times.  Not saying that's the case here, but also not deluding myself to think FBI agents and DOJ personnel are immune and above it all.

 

At the same time, wrt collusion, taking Trump's life history, character and personality into account, I think it's entirely plausible that he would be down with this kind of intrigue.  And this can lead to all sorts of ideas and they can (and do) take on a life of their own in the media, cause it's juicy.

 

Do I think he actually did it though?  No.  I don't like him but I don't think he's "that" stupid.

 

I'm not convinced, however, that members of Trump's staff/family didn't dance around the edge of that campfire. 

 

Otherwise, internet boiler rooms, trolls and robo-voice Youtube propaganda vids by Russians and Iranians, aren't a secret.

 

I'm still interested to see if Manafort will provide some new wrinkles, or outright revelations.  In the absence of that, it's about time to wrap this thing up.

 

Very well put and honest 

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29 minutes ago, TonyClifton said:

Apt.  He isn't there either.  He's been fired.  I hope that scumbag rots in prison.  I'll wait.

What about the the Prince of Darknest, Creepy Comey! He goes into the Oval office for his first intel briefing with the POTUS. Deliberately doesn't tell him there was a op research sponsored by the GOP and later sponsored by the DNC and HC with the help of the rather cheeky Mr. Steele who hated PT more than Stzrock."It wasn't my goal to tell him"he said to ABC Stoppolopus after his  book interview! Don't want to let on that there could be a bad apple in the transition team,hey Comey and that it might ruin your insurance policy .

The top officials of some of the Intel have been bad people for many years .Conniving low life 

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The top officials of some of the Intel have been bad people for many years .Conniving low life

And the Press used to care about what the spooks did....those were the days......

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Stay Tune the Truth will out...  Some of you will be surely surprised, some of you will be angry, and some of you will feel vindicated.  The Truth is sometimes just like medicine very bitter pill to swallow, but good for your well being...  

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Stay Tune the Truth will out...  Some of you will be surely surprised, some of you will be angry, and some of you will feel vindicated.  The Truth is sometimes just like medicine very bitter pill to swallow, but good for your well being...  

Ooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Stay Tune the Truth will out...  Some of you will be surely surprised, some of you will be angry, and some of you will feel vindicated.  The Truth is sometimes just like medicine very bitter pill to swallow, but good for your well being...  

Tell that to the lefties ! They are still in denial! As a result -TDS

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18 minutes ago, riclag said:

ell that to the lefties ! They are still in denial! As a result -TDS

Stop with the lapels Bot Right and Left have enough baggage to sink a ship or a Nation. I want to know if there was collusion by anyone- and if  Trump knew or facilitated it- he needs to go. On the other hand if the left or Dems facilitated  false accusations they need to be held accountable.

 

The American political system is broke- completely compromised and needs to be changed.  There is only one person who can do it- Bernie Sanders.  The rest of them are sycophants who will sell their soul to the devil.

 

Money and Power- whether it's the USA; the World at large or  Thailand. It's no wonder people have lost faith and a demagogue like Trump can be elected.

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28 minutes ago, Thaidream said:

Stop with the lapels Bot Right and Left have enough baggage to sink a ship or a Nation. I want to know if there was collusion by anyone- and if  Trump knew or facilitated it- he needs to go. On the other hand if the left or Dems facilitated  false accusations they need to be held accountable.

 

The American political system is broke- completely compromised and needs to be changed.  There is only one person who can do it- Bernie Sanders.  The rest of them are sycophants who will sell their soul to the devil.

 

Money and Power- whether it's the USA; the World at large or  Thailand. It's no wonder people have lost faith and a demagogue like Trump can be elected.

 

Sanders may become president if he doesn't die of old age.

But changing the political system (yes, probably needed) but he hardly has the clout to do that.

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Stop with the lapels Bot Right and Left have enough baggage to sink a ship or a Nation. I want to know if there was collusion by anyone- and if  Trump knew or facilitated it- he needs to go. On the other hand if the left or Dems facilitated  false accusations they need to be held accountable.

 

The American political system is broke- completely compromised and needs to be changed.  There is only one person who can do it- Bernie Sanders.  The rest of them are sycophants who will sell their soul to the devil.

 

Money and Power- whether it's the USA; the World at large or  Thailand. It's no wonder people have lost faith and a demagogue like Trump can be elected.

Honorable first paragraph ????

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1 hour ago, melvinmelvin said:

But changing the political system (yes, probably needed) but he hardly has the clout to do that.

He's no Hugo Chavez.  I lived in Caracas in the 80's into the 90's.  A lovely country full of lovely people who are warm friendly and when they tell you that my home is your home, they mean it.  And then came Bernie .. er ... Hugo.  And look at it now.  My friend of 35 years, Pablo, can't get medicine for his daughter.  No one dares need a hospital.  It's a horror now.  And you want Bernie to do to the USA what Hugo did for Venezuela.  Shame on you.

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2 minutes ago, TonyClifton said:

He's no Hugo Chavez.  I lived in Caracas in the 80's into the 90's.  A lovely country full of lovely people who are warm friendly and when they tell you that my home is your home, they mean it.  And then came Bernie .. er ... Hugo.  And look at it now.  My friend of 35 years, Pablo, can't get medicine for his daughter.  No one dares need a hospital.  It's a horror now.  And you want Bernie to do to the USA what Hugo did for Venezuela.  Shame on you.

are you pissed or smth?

where did I say anything about I want B for president?

I said that he may become president . . .

 

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2 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

are you pissed or smth?

where did I say anything about I want B for president?

I said that he may become president . . .

 

How in the hell would he become President unless supported by the people?  You fooled me, as you seemed quite enthusiastic about the prospect.  Where did I read you incorrectly?

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Is he fired yet? Will this go down as the "Monday Morning Massacre"? 

  Current breaking news ,Resigned not fired!Try the lemonade the koolaid is tainted

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37 minutes ago, riclag said:
55 minutes ago, pegman said:

Is he fired yet? Will this go down as the "Monday Morning Massacre"? 

  Current breaking news ,Resigned not fired!Try the lemonade the koolaid is tainted

Dead Man Walking...

 

But it will not stop the witch hunt.

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18 minutes ago, Basil B said:

 

Dead Man Walking...

 

But it will not stop the witch hunt.

What witch hunt?

 

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If the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election is, as President Trump would have it, the “single greatest Witch Hunt in American history,” it is also a witch hunt that is turning up an awful lot of alleged and confessed witches. As of writing, special counsel Robert Mueller’s team has filed scores of charges against 19 people, five of whom have pleaded guilty to at least one criminal count.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/04/10/trumps-witch-hunt-is-led-by-republicans-he-appointed/

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13 minutes ago, TonyClifton said:

Better to give that <deleted> a new place to sleep.  There's a Federal Prison not far from the White House.

Hey TC ,Is it remotely possible  that you could be persuaded to turn on the Admin by other Career Professionals in the Top FBI and DOJ even if you were republican, be honest now! 

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7 minutes ago, TonyClifton said:

I'm not sure what you mean by "Admin."

Administration. Let say you fill posts  with your people but prior administrations people are still there,co- mingling , career people .Do you think it's remotely possible these new Trump people could be persuaded to change their opinion,or act against the PT

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Administration. Let say you fill posts  with your people but prior administrations people are still there, career people .Do you think it's remotely possible these new Trump people could be persuaded to change their opinion,or act against the PT

Washington needs a huge enema.

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