Big Joke: Thai police team have been to England to interview woman who claims rape on Koh Tao

[Crash999]

24 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

Great. And you say they’re pushing an agenda? What are you doing? 

Not sure what their agenda is but they are definitely biased in what they choose to say about issues on the islands. 

 

A reputable source of info should present all available facts. Not just those which support one side or another. 

[rkidlad]

33 minutes ago, Crash999 said:

Not sure what their agenda is but they are definitely biased in what they choose to say about issues on the islands. 

 

A reputable source of info should present all available facts. Not just those which support one side or another. 

You understand how newspapers and the media work, right? 

 

A girl has alleged she was raped. She’s been dismissed and she’s kept going. Now it seems we are learning more. This is what happens when people do their jobs properly. 

[jimmynewbie]

The apologists are out in force today, blaming the girl, blaming the messenger, so <deleted> sad.

When will you blame the idiots living on death island causing all the media attention.

Are you all preparing for a rape did happen announcement?

[Crash999]

1 hour ago, rkidlad said:

You understand how newspapers and the media work, right? 

 

A girl has alleged she was raped. She’s been dismissed and she’s kept going. Now it seems we are learning more. This is what happens when people do their jobs properly. 

So do you believe that it’s good and helpful for Samui Times and others to present one side of the story to try and draw readers to a specific conclusion?

 

The girl wasn’t dismissed. The police said there’s no evidence. There’s a clear difference. 

 

[rkidlad]

Just now, Crash999 said:

So do you believe that it’s good and helpful for Samui Times and others to present one side of the story to try and draw readers to a specific conclusion?

 

The girl wasn’t dismissed. The police said there’s no evidence. There’s a clear difference. 

 

It doesn’t matter what I think about tabloid journalistic ethics. I want the real story. The truth. That won’t change media bias. 

 

Yes, the police said there’s no evidence and then threatened to arrest her and have her blacklisted. They also arrested several people for sharing the story. I’d say they have it in their minds that the rape didn’t happen. 

[IslandLover]

8 hours ago, AleG said:

Among other things, money, it sells "news".
The moral panic surrounding Koh Tao is in large part the result of the people behind the Samui Times, one of which is very active in this thread, pushing an agenda.  They manufacture controversy and then profit from it.

I hope you are not referring to me, AleG?  I have no connections to the Samui Times and am not pushing an agenda - but you certainly are and it's plainly obvious from your post what it is.  ????

[HAKAPALITA]

Ive been there once, Btits should have sent Napoleon there, St Helenas rather nice.

[bannork]

49 minutes ago, jimmynewbie said:

Hardly, 14 deaths in 6 years and many of them suspicious, evidence says a lot more than your constant apologist garbage

What evidence?

[CharlieH]

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[smokie36]

15 hours ago, AleG said:

Among other things, money, it sells "news".
The moral panic surrounding Koh Tao is in large part the result of the people behind the Samui Times, one of which is very active in this thread, pushing an agenda.  They manufacture controversy and then profit from it.

 

Newspapers are in the business of selling advertising space and the Samui Times makes money from the ads of local businesses on the islands.

 

It would have made more by leaving this story alone....none of the businesses want to see less tourism as news of a rapist and murderer on the loose is printed and fed to the world's media.

 

Also understandable to see locals and foreigners working in Koh Tao not wanting to see this....but the truth is what it is.....there have been terrible crimes committed on that island and it is happening time and again which is plain to see.

[frank83628]

3 minutes ago, RonniePickering22 said:

 

Newspapers are in the business of selling advertising space and the Samui Times makes money from the ads of local businesses on the islands.

 

It would have made more by leaving this story alone....none of the businesses want to see less tourism as news of a rapist and murderer on the loose is printed and fed to the world's media.

 

Also understandable to see locals and foreigners working in Koh Tao not wanting to see this....but the truth is what it is.....there have been terrible crimes committed on that island and it is happening time and again which is plain to see.

thats the problem, they are not happening or been committed time and time again, a death that wouldnt be much of headline is spun into a sensational fantasy from the samui times and their death island posse, there hasnt been any evidence given to prove anything they claim and they omit details and facts that disprove their BS, and are also preying on grieving parents and putting ideas in their heads and abusing others online that dont agree with them...what a nice bunch they are!!

[smokie36]

27 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

thats the problem, they are not happening or been committed time and time again, a death that wouldnt be much of headline is spun into a sensational fantasy from the samui times and their death island posse, there hasnt been any evidence given to prove anything they claim and they omit details and facts that disprove their BS, and are also preying on grieving parents and putting ideas in their heads and abusing others online that dont agree with them...what a nice bunch they are!!

 

I'm not sure how you sensationalise the rape and murder of a young woman and the murder of her friend on a paradise island when they are there to have fun and enjoy themselves.

 

If there were conclusive evidence pointing to the certainty that the two Burmese committed the crime beyond two forced confessions since retracted no one would be questioning it now.

 

The current rape allegation is clearly taken seriously enough to send officers to the UK to hear her story so let's wait and see what they have discovered.

[The manic]

11 hours ago, Crash999 said:

There’s also a lot of sour grapes there. 

 

Funny how with Thailand after some people leave they get so upset that they have to attack the country at every turn. It’s like dealing with a jilted ex-lover. 

A good insight into the Thai bashers on this forum.  I have a feeling many, especially Pattaya bashers, have never been to Pattaya.

[The manic]

7 hours ago, bannork said:

What nonsense you write-  you call Koh Tao death island yet there has only been one double murder in 4 years on an island with between 400,000 to 600,000 visitors a year.

 

 

100 murders in E london, rapes, stabbings and acid burnings make KT a haven of calm and safety. 

[metisdead]

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[Crash999]

10 hours ago, jimmynewbie said:

Hardly, 14 deaths in 6 years and many of them suspicious

They’re suspicious because people are trying to make them suspicious. 

 

A young woman dies and some people call it mysterious and unexplained. Nevermind that on her Twitter she bragged about taking drugs and alcohol. That important detail is usually left out by the conspiracy theorists. 

 

Take a look in the farang deaths website how many foreigners have died on Samui alone in the past two years alone. Pattaya is even worse. 

 

If KT is death island then those places are slaughterhouses. 

[Crash999]

6 hours ago, RonniePickering22 said:

 

Newspapers are in the business of selling advertising space and the Samui Times makes money from the ads of local businesses on the islands.

 

It would have made more by leaving this story alone....none of the businesses want to see less tourism as news of a rapist and murderer on the loose is printed and fed to the world's media.

We wouldn’t be taking about Samui Times without all this manufactured drama and controversy. It’s one of countless small websites and blogs out there. 

 

Can you name withiut looking the biggest Phuket and Chiang Mai websites? Probably not as they aren’t nearly as sensationalist. 

 

It’s also more than just money as such websites don’t make a fortune. It’s about power, control, and a personal agenda. 

[smokie36]

1 hour ago, Crash999 said:

We wouldn’t be taking about Samui Times without all this manufactured drama and controversy. It’s one of countless small websites and blogs out there. 

 

Can you name withiut looking the biggest Phuket and Chiang Mai websites? Probably not as they aren’t nearly as sensationalist. 

 

It’s also more than just money as such websites don’t make a fortune. It’s about power, control, and a personal agenda. 

 

You really couldn't be further from the truth.

 

Actually its about truth and justice.

[rkidlad]

1 hour ago, Crash999 said:

They’re suspicious because people are trying to make them suspicious. 

 

A young woman dies and some people call it mysterious and unexplained. Nevermind that on her Twitter she bragged about taking drugs and alcohol. That important detail is usually left out by the conspiracy theorists. 

 

Take a look in the farang deaths website how many foreigners have died on Samui alone in the past two years alone. Pattaya is even worse. 

 

If KT is death island then those places are slaughterhouses. 

They're suspicious because they're suspicious. One suspicious case can be written off. Several suspicious cases are the very definition of 'suspicious'. 

 

Trick me once........

[bannork]

14 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

They're suspicious because they're suspicious. One suspicious case can be written off. Several suspicious cases are the very definition of 'suspicious'. 

 

Trick me once........

No, what you've described is the onset of paranoia.

[rkidlad]

19 minutes ago, bannork said:

No, what you've described is the onset of paranoia.

No, what I've described is suspicious circumstances. 

 

Why would I be paranoid about an island far away from me that I'll never ever visit again?

[rkidlad]

13 minutes ago, JLCrab said:

On ThaiVisa/Forum, 'suspicious' is code word for:

 

'They were murdered'.

Not at all. Suspicious can mean 'not investigated properly' or 'swept under the carpet'. 

 

Also, this is a thread about a girl alleging rape. You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who could spin rape into murder. 

 

The sensible ones among us just wanna see a proper investigation done. 

[metisdead]

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[Oziex1]

On 10/5/2018 at 4:18 PM, yorkieb said:

There hase already been a report in the uk this week that the girl has admitted in an interview with uk press that no rape occured and she was mistaken.

Is this story being confused with the other case where a young Brit woman admitted she was too drunk to remember what had happened to her the night before?

[Oziex1]

"Surachate denied that the alleged British victim had been blacklisted by Thai authorities from entering the Kingdom and vowed to bring justice to all concerning sides."

 

Don't worry I don't think she will be returning any time soon.

 

 

[Crash999]

On 10/9/2018 at 8:35 AM, rkidlad said:

They're suspicious because they're suspicious. One suspicious case can be written off. Several suspicious cases are the very definition of 'suspicious'. 

 

Trick me once........

Any death can be suspicious if one keeps asking more questions and refuses to believe the answers. That’s the unfortunate case with KT, especially with the agenda being pushed by Samui Times that tricks a lot of people into believing disinformation. 

 

As I mentioned, Samui and Pattaya are much worse but no one is calling Samui death island. 

[Crash999]

On 10/9/2018 at 8:21 AM, RonniePickering22 said:

 

You really couldn't be further from the truth.

 

Actually its about truth and justice.

I believe it’s about truth and justice from some of the well-intentioned posters here as they sincerely believe what they have read about such cases. 

 

But unfortunately they’ve been fed a pack of lies by truly shady people. 

[rkidlad]

1 minute ago, Crash999 said:

Any death can be suspicious if one keeps asking more questions and refuses to believe the answers. That’s the unfortunate case with KT, especially with the agenda being pushed by Samui Times that tricks a lot of people into believing disinformation. 

 

As I mentioned, Samui and Pattaya are much worse but no one is calling Samui death island. 

Yes, it’s all on the Samui Times. But it was The Times Newspaper who recorded the girl saying she tried to report the rape on Kho Pangan but the police officer there refused to do so. Samui Times fault? It must be......

[Crash999]

1 minute ago, rkidlad said:

Yes, it’s all on the Samui Times. But it was The Times Newspaper who recorded the girl saying she tried to report the rape on Kho Pangan but the police officer there refused to do so. Samui Times fault? It must be......

What the Times reported and her interview was objective and factual. 

 

Look at ST’s first article by comparison. They posted about a rape and posted photos of a man they suggest was the rapist, one who they said was shown holding a hoe at the scene of the murders. This was completely untrue, it was a different person. 

 

ST was immediately jumping to the conclusion that not only was she raped, not only was it a Thai, but also it one was one of the people who they think was involved in the murders. They immediately linked it to their murder conspiracy. 

 

ST has a history of doing this and they don’t retract or correct stories. That creates a huge amount of confusion when people Google to get info on these cases. 

[rkidlad]

Just now, Crash999 said:

What the Times reported and her interview was objective and factual. 

 

Look at ST’s first article by comparison. They posted about a rape and posted photos of a man they suggest was the rapist, one who they said was shown holding a hoe at the scene of the murders. This was completely untrue, it was a different person. 

 

ST was immediately jumping to the conclusion that not only was she raped, not only was it a Thai, but also it one was one of the people who they think was involved in the murders. They immediately linked it to their murder conspiracy. 

 

ST has a history of doing this and they don’t retract or correct stories. That creates a huge amount of confusion when people Google to get info on these cases. 

This thread is about an alleged rape of a young English girl. Not the murder of Hannah and David. Go and discredit news sources on the relevant threads.