Chaturon, red shirts jumping to Thai Raksa Chart

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Chaturon, red shirts jumping to Thai Raksa Chart

By The Nation

 

 

Key figures in the Pheu Thai Party including Chaturon Chaisang and red-shirt leaders will today switch to its offshoot, the new Thai Raksa Chart party, an inside source said yesterday.
 

Joining Chaturon are Virakarn Musikapong, Nattawut Saikua, Korkaew Pikulthong and Weng Tojirakarn, who are said to be ready to apply today for membership in Thai Raksa Chart.

 

The source, speaking on condition of anonymity, said they were leaving Pheu Thai because new election arrangements could leave it with fewer-than-expected seats in the Lower House.

 

If Pheu Thai wins a large number of constituencies in the election currently scheduled for February 24, it might have no seats available for party-list MPs. That is prompting some former Pheu Thai party-list MPs to migrate to other parties in the hope of securing places in Parliament.

 

 

Thai Raksa Chart, seen as a sister party to Pheu Thai, has introduced as members and executives several “heirs” to politicians from the Shinawatra camp.

 

The party yesterday welcomed new members including former golf hero Thongchai Jaidee and former beauty queen Nahathai Lekbumrung.

 

Thongchai, who applied for party membership yesterday, said he wanted to participate in politics and would later discuss his role with its executives.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30358803

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-11-19

[zzaa09]

More jumping ship.

Shouldn't surprise. 

 

The new redshirts.

 

[PatOngo]

Great Pointing...….but what are they pointing at?

 

[geriatrickid]

42 minutes ago, zzaa09 said:

More jumping ship.

Shouldn't surprise. 

 

The new redshirts.

 

Not  conventional jumping of ship. You did not comprehend the article. They are moving to a sister political party to ensure that they will be able to get party list  seats that would otherwise be denied.

[Phuketshrew]

23 minutes ago, PatOngo said:

Great Pointing...….but what are they pointing at?

To the trough?

[hansnl]

1 hour ago, zzaa09 said:

More jumping ship.

Shouldn't surprise. 

 

The new redshirts.

 

Thereby showing loud and clear, they are in politics for themselves and NOT for the people who vote for them.

 

Or, and that might be an overwhelming reason, ordered to do so by.........

Edited November 19, 2018 by hansnl

[NemoH]

1 hour ago, hansnl said:

Thereby showing loud and clear, they are in politics for themselves and NOT for the people who vote for them.

 

Or, and that might be an overwhelming reason, ordered to do so by.........

Isn't that what politics is all about ?

[scorecard]

3 hours ago, PatOngo said:

Great Pointing...….but what are they pointing at?

 

Their god - money?

[scorecard]

2 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

Not  conventional jumping of ship. You did not comprehend the article. They are moving to a sister political party to ensure that they will be able to get party list  seats that would otherwise be denied.

 

Sure, understand that, but another analysis is that they don't really care what banner* they are under as long as it's under the same paymaster / payday.

 

* perhaps a more appropriate word should be 'manifesto' but I have strong doubts they would even know or care what that means.

 

The golfer guy - "Thongchai, who applied for party membership yesterday, said he wanted to participate in politics and would later discuss his role with its executives."

Good luck with that - just be ready to vote yes or no as instructed and keep your mouth shut. 

Edited November 19, 2018 by scorecard

[PatOngo]

3 hours ago, PatOngo said:

Great Pointing...….but what are they pointing at?

 

The projected trajectory of their bank accounts should they be luckeee enough to win! 

[lincolnshire poacher]

2 hours ago, Phuketshrew said:

To the trough?

Trough in the sky ?

[ratcatcher]

3 hours ago, PatOngo said:

Great Pointing...….but what are they pointing at?

It's what all politicians do...............Do you get the point?

 

 

Edited November 19, 2018 by ratcatcher

[GarryP]

22 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

Sure, understand that, but another analysis is that they don't really care what banner* they are under as long as it's under the same paymaster / payday.

 

* perhaps a more appropriate word should be 'manifesto' but I have strong doubts they would even know or care what that means.

 

The golfer guy - "Thongchai, who applied for party membership yesterday, said he wanted to participate in politics and would later discuss his role with its executives."

Good luck with that - just be ready to vote yes or no as instructed and keep your mouth shut. 

Surely, the idea behind this is to get as many seats as possible for Pheu Thai and its sister parties to form a coalition with like minded parties to stop pro-military parties from forming the next government. Is that a bad thing to do? Not in my books it isn't. 

[Baerboxer]

7 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

More jumping ship.

Shouldn't surprise. 

 

The new redshirts.

 

 

Changing ships in the same fleet, controlled by the same Admiral though.

 

This lot know they'd never be directly elected as individuals and rely on being given a party list seat. Edging their bets to ensure they get their place at the trough if their clan wins.

[Baerboxer]

3 hours ago, GarryP said:

Surely, the idea behind this is to get as many seats as possible for Pheu Thai and its sister parties to form a coalition with like minded parties to stop pro-military parties from forming the next government. Is that a bad thing to do? Not in my books it isn't. 

 

Of course, trying to fit in with the new system so they can still get their party list seats without having to actually do anything. 

 

Yep, sure will be a bad thing if Thaksin and his cronies connive a way to get control, get thieving and get working on his and little sister's amnesties again. The whole outrageous cycle will simply start again.

 

Look at Nat as an example btw. Never elected as a "Red shirt Leader" but mysteriously appointed; never elected to parliament but given a party list seat by the boss. Great example of cronyism.

 

Like minded - more like "do you wanna be in my gang or theirs" mentality.

[GarryP]

21 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Of course, trying to fit in with the new system so they can still get their party list seats without having to actually do anything. 

 

Yep, sure will be a bad thing if Thaksin and his cronies connive a way to get control, get thieving and get working on his and little sister's amnesties again. The whole outrageous cycle will simply start again.

 

Look at Nat as an example btw. Never elected as a "Red shirt Leader" but mysteriously appointed; never elected to parliament but given a party list seat by the boss. Great example of cronyism.

 

Like minded - more like "do you wanna be in my gang or theirs" mentality.

So would you have it the other way and agree with the gerrymandering and blatant electioneering on the part of the junta and its proxies? What is sauce for the goose...... So surely, PT and even the Dems have the right to do this. Let the votes count and be a reflection of what the people really want. 

 

Can't you accept it if PT legally regains control through the election? Regardless how self-serving their interests are in getting elected, if they win the most seats from the election and can establish a government, why can't you accept that? It is not as if the other side of the divide want to win for purely altruistic reasons. 

 

<deleted> can the country do to get out of the vicious cycle? Surely, it needs to start with elections (which should be fair) and the army should have no role whatsoever? The army does not represent the people and never has in this country.     

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

Look at Nat as an example btw. Never elected as a "Red shirt Leader" but mysteriously appointed; never elected to parliament but given a party list seat by the boss. Great example of cronyism.

BB talking about election is so refreshing. Anyway, lots of untruth to be pointed out. Nat is the Secretary General of UDD (not red shirts) and it’s an appointee position. He was a Parliament MP through party list no different from Ahbisit. 

[ramrod711]

12 hours ago, webfact said:

Key figures in the Pheu Thai Party including Chaturon Chaisang and red-shirt leaders will today switch to its offshoot, the new Thai Raksa Chart party, an inside source said yesterday.

Apparently the new Thai Raksa Chart motto will be: "Bangkok will be a sea of fire". It has a certain appeal for the Pheu Thai alumni

[Kasset Tak]

More Thaksin cronies, if they get to power in the election... then Thailand will be thrown back to where it was just before the coup with more rampant corruption than ever and more "reforms for the poor" that will only line the pockets of the Shinowatras and their friends!

[ramrod711]

4 hours ago, GarryP said:

<deleted> can the country do to get out of the vicious cycle? Surely, it needs to start with elections (which should be fair) and the army should have no role whatsoever? The army does not represent the people and never has in this country.   

The ideal way to get out of this vicious cycle would be to not allow anyone who has previously been in office to run again. I don't want to see Chalerm and the rest of that crew again. Surely we have all seen enough of the ineffective Democrats as well, break out the new broom and sweep the lot of them out.

[GarryP]

1 hour ago, ramrod711 said:

The ideal way to get out of this vicious cycle would be to not allow anyone who has previously been in office to run again. I don't want to see Chalerm and the rest of that crew again. Surely we have all seen enough of the ineffective Democrats as well, break out the new broom and sweep the lot of them out.

Hadn't thought of that. But would it work? Assuming they don't argue that their constitutional rights have been taken away from them, what is to stop them acting as puppet masters and fielding proxies? 

[zzaa09]

27 minutes ago, GarryP said:

Hadn't thought of that. But would it work? Assuming they don't argue that their constitutional rights have been taken away from them, what is to stop them acting as puppet masters and fielding proxies? 

To which Constitution version do you speak of?

 

[bannork]

4 hours ago, Kasset Tak said:

More Thaksin cronies, if they get to power in the election... then Thailand will be thrown back to where it was just before the coup with more rampant corruption than ever and more "reforms for the poor" that will only line the pockets of the Shinowatras and their friends!

The acronym of Thai Raksa Chart is ท from Thai   ษ from Raksa  ช from Chart

so we get ทษช  and hey! what can that be an acronym for? Yes, you've guessed it folks-

Thaksin Shinawatra ทักษิณ ชินวัตร 5555

[zzaa09]

1 hour ago, bannork said:

The acronym of Thai Raksa Chart is ท from Thai   ษ from Raksa  ช from Chart

so we get ทษช  and hey! what can that be an acronym for? Yes, you've guessed it folks-

Thaksin Shinawatra ทักษิณ ชินวัตร 5555

Damn Conspiracies.

And hidden in plain sight, as well!!!

 

????

[DrTuner]

They are doing it wrong. For a proper heil you need to keep the palm open. With all the McAdolfs in town one would think they've got it nailed by now.