Are you planning for your “ End life”

[MadMuhammad]

I haven’t made any end of life plans but I’m well on the way to ending it prematurely 555

 

Hopefully I’ll stick around for a while yet though ????

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, murraynz said:

but i think, once we get to 70yrs old, we need to make some preparation.

I don't know anyone in Thailand that made it to 70 years old.

I made my plan at 60 years old, and that plan was not to care about what happens after I'm dead.

[Surasak]

"Are you planning for the end of your life"?

Yes, I've decided I'm not going to be there.????

[The Theory]

2 hours ago, soistalker said:

This is the beat way not to "accidentally" fall from your balcony.

Im more concern about long term food poisoning.  ????

[nickmondo]

dont use the word FARANG.

refer the specific nationality of the person you are referring to.

its bad enough the Thais call us this.

 

[MuuKondiao]

On 12/26/2018 at 9:46 PM, JAFO said:

Agree with you Swissie,

One thing good though, there are numerous ways to assist oneself when the time comes. One does not have to do a swan dive off a balcony in Pattaya or BKK to call it. Seems messy and desperate. 

 

There are very pleasant ways to exit (without the mess and burden to clean up crews) when as you stated above feel you have lived a fulfilled life and the time is right. 

 

Like what? Can you elaborate - whom do you see to help arrange a pleasant way out?

[orchidfan]

One of my main concerns is putting in place instructions regarding my Thai wife...as my legal spouse..receiving the portion of my Oz pension to which she's entitled.

This requires a bit of work  like opening an Oz bank account in her name, getting her a Tax File number and having the relevant documents "certified" (embassy??) so that the pension trustees are satisfied that she is, and has been, my wife for many years.

So when I kick the bucket she will receive a % of my current pension for the rest of her days.

The Commonwealth Superannuation Corp have an online Pdf form one can fill in BUT it only allows for your widow to be an Oz citizen, living in Australia!

No allowance for expats living full time overseas and married to a foreign national! ! There must be many thousands of us in this situation in many countries overseas!

 

[Boon Mee]

8 minutes ago, MuuKondiao said:

Like what? Can you elaborate - whom do you see to help arrange a pleasant way out?

Yes, if anyone has a good idea, please share.

For myself, been feeling a tad depressed since the 2016 general election and there's no relief in sight.

[vogie]

Yes I told my wife "I'm leaving everything to you", she said "you always do you idle bugger"

[billd766]

3 hours ago, soistalker said:

If you are married to a thai woman, or thinking about it, you should be preparing for your death. Never ever let the woman know your net worth. Convince her that you are receiving a pension every month that stops when you die. And buy the condo in your name, naming your children or someone ba k home as the beneficiary.

This is the beat way not to "accidentally" fall from your balcony.

What a load of rubbish.

 

You sit on too many bar stools and live from gossip.

 

Not EVERY Thai wife is like that.

 

I don't have a condo nor does my family back in the UK expect anything from my death. Every thing I leave behind  goes to my Thai wife and son.

 

My Thai wife knows about my pensions and roughly how much she will have from them when I die. I have created a folder on my PC and done a hard copy explaining who to contact when I die.

 

I have a bank account in my name as does my wife and we have had a joint account for at least 15 years simply because I love and trust my wife.

If you have no love or trust in your wife (assuming that you have one) then you must have a sham marriage dominated by you.

[billd766]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

I don't know anyone in Thailand that made it to 70 years old.

I made my plan at 60 years old, and that plan was not to care about what happens after I'm dead.

 

I am 74 and I have friends who are in their 70s and one who is 82.

 

I have other friends in their 30s, 40s, 50s and 60s.

 

I made my plans a few years ago and I should update them yearly. 

[soalbundy]

On 12/26/2018 at 5:03 PM, ToddinChonburi said:

OK what are the best options for making a will ?

You can get one done for next to nothing at the Ampoer, I've done it so that I own nothing except my bank account and this I have left my partner and son. Let the dead bury the dead.

[natway09]

Well spoken Fitto

[tpthai2]

For those who may wish to consider it:

 

"The Peaceful Pill Handbook"  will detail

all alternatives.

[NCC1701A]

i live in a neighborhood surrounded by Thais. I think when the word gets out i am dead, the house will be striped to the bone.

[billd766]

10 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

i live in a neighborhood surrounded by Thais. I think when the word gets out i am dead, the house will be striped to the bone.

I also live in a Thai village and I have no doubt that when they hear of my death the will coming to the house, not to strip it to the bone but to help my wife and son however they can.

 

It must be a far different neighbourhood than yours, unless of course you are joking.

[lanng khao]

6 hours ago, vogie said:

I have discussed this with my wife, I only said to her last night "I want to be cremated", she said you'll have to wait untill tomorrow, they are closed right now.

Yours must be on the same line as mine, when I asked her if she wanted to bury me, or make fire, she said both, I don't want to take any chances. 

[Lupusthai]

2 hours ago, MuuKondiao said:

Like what? Can you elaborate - whom do you see to help arrange a pleasant way out?

I googled a little bit...The most attractive way in my opinion is the Carbon-monoxide-method: Choose a cool day, put 2 already burning Thai-charcoal-ovens into the bedroom, take a sleeping pill, open a nice bottle of wine (or whatever you prefer) and start a favorite movie on your TV ( i'll choose "Harold & Maude" ).

After max. 1,5 hrs. you should be back 'home' - painless, nice looking with a vivid rosy face and without any mess for the people picking up your remainings.

Don't forget to put signs on door and windows: "Danger - toxic gas inside" not to harm anybody who finds you...

[khunPer]

On 12/26/2018 at 7:42 AM, georgegeorgia said:

Im only 50 so hopefully i have another 30 years before i leave this earth but those of you who are 80 plus , or even over 75 ,  have you planned for your end of life, Wills, funeral etc ,or are you avoiding this?

Even at age 50, or younger, something can happen – especially in Thailand's traffic, but also some folks past 40 have risk of a stroke – so you should also get your planning in order, if not already done.

 

I had my home country planning made up some years before I left at age 57 – that be a Last Will covering any assets left in the home country, and general information about funeral – and when moving to Thailand, a few years later, yes actually too late, I made a Last Will for my assets here, including funeral wishes, and I updated my home country's Last Will, here-under stating that assets I might leave in Thailand are covered by a Thai Last Will.

 

I still plan to live for at least another 30-years – I'm only 69 by now – but as it's fairly impossible to tell the future, it's never too early to have these things in order. And remember, you can at any time update your Last Will, if needed.

 

On 12/26/2018 at 7:42 AM, georgegeorgia said:

and can i ask those farangs who have married a thai lady but have kids in your farang Country whether you are leaving them something in your Will or made arrangements with them about your death.,

 

Are you planning to remain in a Thailand when and if you get sick and plan to have a funeral?

how have you planned this ?

I don't have any children in my home country, but I have so far one here, so both my luk khrueng and the mother, my lovely girlfriend, are part of my Will.

 

I hope that I will be able to remain in Thailand; however you never know what might change, but that's "my planning". Also because I don't have any close family left in my home country, and care for elderly has a bad reputation; in a worst case scenario at least the weather is better here.

 

How I had planned it? Apart from my Last Will, I really haven't, but I have a spoken agreement with my Thai girlfriend, that I take care of her now, and she'll take care of me, when I get old. The only bad thing is, that she mention that she might get old before me...  I use to say, that "one shall always be worth more alive than dead in Thailand", so that could be a good reason to be taken care of...???? i.e. my small governmental retirement pension and a tiny lifelong working-life pension lasts for my life only.

 

I wish to be cremated, and whatever gonna happen after I've left my physical body is up to the relatives, and what they feel will be best for them only – which I've stated in both of my Last Wills – i.e. don't make anything for me, because I'll not be joining the party, I've hopefully already moved on, there's enough earthly ghosts and spirits here already.

????

[Jip99]

2 minutes ago, khunPer said:

Even at age 50, or younger, something can happen – especially in Thailand's traffic, but also some folks past 40 have risk of a stroke – so you should also get your planning in order, if not already done.

 

I had my home country planning made up some years before I left at age 57 – that be a Last Will covering any assets left in the home country, and general information about funeral – and when moving to Thailand, a few years later, yes actually too late, I made a Last Will for my assets here, including funeral wishes, and I updated my home country's Last Will, here-under stating that assets I might leave in Thailand are covered by a Thai Last Will.

 

I still plan to live for at least another 30-years – I'm only 69 by now – but as it's fairly impossible to tell the future, it's never too early to have these things in order. And remember, you can at any time update your Last Will, if needed.

 

I don't have any children in my home country, but I have so far one here, so both my luk khrueng and the mother, my lovely girlfriend, are part of my Will.

 

I hope that I will be able to remain in Thailand; however you never know what might change, but that's "my planning". Also because I don't have any close family left in my home country, and care for elderly has a bad reputation; in a worst case scenario at least the weather is better here.

 

How I had planned it? Apart from my Last Will, I really haven't, but I have a spoken agreement with my Thai girlfriend, that I take care of her now, and she'll take care of me, when I get old. The only bad thing is, that she mention that she might get old before me...  I use to say, that "one shall always be worth more alive than dead in Thailand", so that could be a good reason to be taken care of...???? i.e. my small governmental retirement pension and a tiny lifelong working-life pension lasts for my life only.

 

I wish to be cremated, and whatever gonna happen after I've left my physical body is up to the relatives, and what they feel will be best for them only – which I've stated in both of my Last Wills – i.e. don't make anything for me, because I'll not be joining the party, I've hopefully already moved on, there's enough earthly ghosts and spirits here already.

????

 

 

Should your girlfriend become your wife, just remember marriage invalidates any Wills.

[khunPer]

1 minute ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

Should your girlfriend become your wife, just remember marriage invalidates any Wills.

Thanks, but we have no intentions, life is more easy without too much paperwork...????

[Jip99]

4 minutes ago, khunPer said:

Thanks, but we have no intentions, life is more easy without too much paperwork...????

 

 

I wasn't trying to marry you off khun Per ????(I am in the same situation) - just a note that any existing Wills are invalidated upon marriage.

Edited December 29, 2018 by Jip99

[rumak]

On 12/28/2018 at 8:47 AM, Henryford said:

I bought a condo on the 20th floor, sorted.

just go outside first.....plenty of young ladies willing to "assist"  .   ( be sure to have a thick envelope visible)

[Thingamabob]

Mind your own business. I don't need you to remind me of my responsibilities.

[rumak]

georgie georgie....   first a post about TV members financial situations.   Now one about planning on "life's end".     I am wondering whether the next one will be  " does your SS # end in 143698 ....if not how does yours differ? "     bound to be a few on here that will spill the beans.    Seems to me at 50 you have too much time on your hands.  Obviously you must not live in Thailand or you would have other things in your hands.

 

Edited December 29, 2018 by rumak

[kokopelli]

4 hours ago, Surasak said:

"Are you planning for the end of your life"?

Yes, I've decided I'm not going to be there.????

Me too, I plan to die.

[metisdead]

An offensive troll post and a reply has been removed. 

[kokopelli]

5 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I don't know anyone in Thailand that made it to 70 years old.

I made my plan at 60 years old, and that plan was not to care about what happens after I'm dead.

Does that mean I am dead along with many of my friends?????

[Sailor42]

7 hours ago, fittobethaied said:

Before retiring I managed several funeral homes and cemeteries in the US and met with over 3500 families that had lost loved ones to death. Most people do not have a plan in place and have not prepared a Last Will and Testament, and I can tell you first hand of the horror stories that I have experienced with these families. In my opinion the most cruel thing a man can do is refuse to plan and leave a mess for the family to wade through after he is gone. No matter what you have done in your life that you think is worthy, it will all be forgotten and your legacy will be that you were a total "ass" for not thinking ahead about taking care of your family and lessening their burden. Many of them will despise you forever. For God's sake leave a packet of instructions so that your next-of-kin can settle your estate.

 

I have spent days and weeks preparing a packet of detailed instructions for my wife. I have a Thai Will for my estate in the Kingdom, a Will for my estate in the US and I have prepared a Living Will. My detailed instructions are updated annually because passwords change, websites such as banks will change format over time and government forms will change. This packet is nearly one inch thick, but it is absolutely necessary for me to give my wife a step-by-step set of instructions. Don't expect that your Thai wife will be able to figure this stuff out on her own, and God forbid she should have to ask the advice of friends or a lawyer. All the sharks will be standing in line to get their share of the feed, and your wife will be left with much less than you anticipated.

 

Have a heart and do the right thing. The most loving thing you can do for your family is to prepare them for the inevitable burden of settling your affairs once you are gone.

As a long-term Financial Adviser specialising in assisting retiring and retired people in Australia for 30 years in a holistic sense, I couldn't agree more with my learned friend above. You must, repeat must, take the time to craft (and annually check and update if necessary) Wills and other documentationregarding your desires as you approach and eventually pass through the Pearly Gates. If you don't, then you may very well die in ways you would not choose, being a complete disaster to your loved ones along the way, Not only that, but your financial Estate may well be fought over by a pack of ravenous wolves, and end up not providing ongoing support and sustenance to those you wished and intended to support. And guess who everyone will blame? You will be remembered forever as a complete Bastard, even though that was far from your intention.

 

You must take charge and do the necessary administration NOW! Then you can relax and truly enjoy our LOS!

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, kokopelli said:

Does that mean I am dead along with many of my friends?????

Do I know you?