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Brazil's president-elect plans decree allowing wider gun ownership

 

Brazil's President-elect Jair Bolsonaro leaves the transition government building in Brasilia, Brazil December 11, 2018. REUTERS/Adriano Machado

 

SAO PAULO (Reuters) - Brazil's far-right President-elect Jair Bolsonaro said on Saturday he plans to issue a decree allowing all Brazilians without criminal records to own firearms, welcome news to many core supporters who want him to loosen Brazil's strict gun laws.

 

Throughout his campaign, Bolsonaro had pledged to dismantle Brazil's current gun legislation, which presents various bureaucratic and legal obstacles for people seeking to purchase firearms. That message appealed to many Brazilians who want to use guns for self-defense amid sky-high levels of violent crime.

 

"By decree, we plan to guarantee the ownership of firearms by citizens without criminal records," Bolsonaro, who takes office on Jan. 1, wrote on Twitter on Saturday.

 

He did not provide additional details and it was not immediately clear what mechanisms Bolsonaro would have at his disposal to carry out such a decree, or what specific measures the decree would contain. Brazil's Congress is already discussing measures to loosen gun control laws.

 

Gun manufacturers are among those that stand to benefit from such moves. Shares in Brazilian gun maker Taurus Armas SA have climbed some 88 percent year-to-date amid expectations that Bolsonaro would win the election and follow through on promises to liberalize gun laws.

 

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-12-30

[Baerboxer]

I hope more countries follow suit. Law abiding citizens should have the right to protect themselves against criminals. Britain doesn't allow its citizens such rights, has more CCTV coverage than any other nation but it's police can't deal with the rising violent crime. Soft liberal punishments, over stretched police on the ground, a focus on some crimes at the expense of others, and a real reluctance to get involved with minorities for fear of political admonishment, means the UK is now a dangerous place for it's own citizens.

[Srikcir]

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

I hope more countries follow suit. Law abiding citizens should have the right to protect themselves against criminals. Britain doesn't allow its citizens such rights, has more CCTV coverage than any other nation but it's police can't deal with the rising violent crime. Soft liberal punishments, over stretched police on the ground, a focus on some crimes at the expense of others, and a real reluctance to get involved with minorities for fear of political admonishment, means the UK is now a dangerous place for it's own citizens.

Focusing on Brazil -

Gun violence may well be a national epidemic but, as with income and education, the toll is borne unevenly in a country fractured by class, race, age and gender. In Brazil, as in most countries, homicide is a young man’s disease, and one where both victims and perpetrators are disproportionately black and poor -- a problem that a one-size-fits-all gun law can’t resolve.

Good governance and public trust are key to disarming Rio's dangerous streets.

The nation is already flooded by firearms, no thanks to in part cross-border crime cartels and crooked cops who feed the black market.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-03-09/brazil-s-strict-gun-laws-haven-t-stopped-its-killers

[JingerBen]

Bolsonaro isn't doing this to protect people. He's doing it to encourage the extrajudicial killing of as many of Brazil's criminal underclass as possible.

When that happens it saves the police, the courts, and the jails from doing the jobs they are paid to do.

Edited December 30, 2018 by JingerBen

[Jingthing]

If they go down that route it's really hard to turn back from that. It's their choice. They elected a fascist and now they will reap the consequences.

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[marcusarelus]

21 minutes ago, JingerBen said:

Bolsonaro isn't doing this to protect people. He's doing it to encourage the extrajudicial killing of as many of Brazil's criminal underclass as possible.

When that happens it saves the police, the courts, and the jails from doing the jobs they are paid to do.

If they kill Brazil's criminal underclass doesn't that protect the people who are not the criminal underclass?

[swissie]

FAR WORSE is the fact, that he basically gave the green light for total deforestation of the Amazon Rain-Forest.
= A major supplier of oxigen for the world !!!

[sirineou]

Everyone having guns, what could go wrong with that?

[JingerBen]

1 hour ago, marcusarelus said:

If they kill Brazil's criminal underclass doesn't that protect the people who are not the criminal underclass?

That's an excellent point that I didn't even consider.

Thanks for that little bit of insight.

[simple1]

On 12/30/2018 at 11:37 PM, JingerBen said:

Bolsonaro isn't doing this to protect people. He's doing it to encourage the extrajudicial killing of as many of Brazil's criminal underclass as possible.

When that happens it saves the police, the courts, and the jails from doing the jobs they are paid to do.

Have to take into account the guy represents the far right. Armed citizens can always be organised to form the tools of oppression against opposition / critics. Which countries can actually demonstrate the net benefit of armed citizens to suppress high crime rates? - None?

[Chomper Higgot]

On 12/30/2018 at 1:04 PM, Baerboxer said:

I hope more countries follow suit. Law abiding citizens should have the right to protect themselves against criminals. Britain doesn't allow its citizens such rights, has more CCTV coverage than any other nation but it's police can't deal with the rising violent crime. Soft liberal punishments, over stretched police on the ground, a focus on some crimes at the expense of others, and a real reluctance to get involved with minorities for fear of political admonishment, means the UK is now a dangerous place for it's own citizens.

No mention of the part played by Theresa May ( as Home Secretary ) and later as PM reducing the number of police officers by  21,000?

 

The UK is not, despite your hyperbole, a ‘dangerous place’.

[neeray]

On ‎12‎/‎30‎/‎2018 at 9:06 AM, swissie said:

FAR WORSE is the fact, that he basically gave the green light for total deforestation of the Amazon Rain-Forest.
= A major supplier of oxigen for the world !!!

In the process of deforestation, no doubt some of those guns will be used to kill off the indigenous people who have lived there forever.

[Nyezhov]

2 hours ago, simple1 said:

Have to take into account the guy represents the far right. Armed citizens can always be organised to form the tools of oppression against opposition / critics. Which countries can actually demonstrate the net benefit of armed citizens to suppress high crime rates? - None?

Armed citizens can always be organized to oppose the the oppression.

[Nyezhov]

52 minutes ago, neeray said:

In the process of deforestation, no doubt some of those guns will be used to kill off the indigenous people who have lived there forever.

Yeah the strict gun laws have done a lot to stop that ????

 

But we all know that criminals legally buy their guns in licensed gun stores dont we????????????

 

Hey Bob, we need some money to buy some more Yaba, lets go rob and murder those old folks with the cash. Sounds great Charlie, wheres the gun? Oh the cops took it from me last week. All right, well lets head down to Dukes Guns and Ice Cream and buy another, I have a coupon from Groupon.????????

[bristolboy]

1 hour ago, Nyezhov said:

Armed citizens can always be organized to oppose the the oppression.

They can also be organized to be instruments of it. As in the case of the United States.

[metisdead]

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