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28 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I'd like them not to try and talk to me, that's how I treat them, and can report back your theory generally doesn't work.

I suppose all our experiences are different.

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2 minutes ago, nausea said:

If you come to TVF you're mostly desparate (excluding those who come here for visa advice), you're either outside the country (longing to be here) or living here and have nothing better to do. I came here cos I was sick, bed-ridden, and it was a way to pass the time. A person with a life does not spend a lot of time on TVF, believe me.

It's a good place to hide from the sun.

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28 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Virtually all the animosity that I've felt in Thailand has come from friend's wives. They can be jealous bitches. If someone else's husband has more status than their husband, be it looks, personality, wealth, jai dee, age, or whatever, the knives are out.

Not in my experience.

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That is a lie , I did not start a thread about punching a girlfreind in the face , let along brag about it .
  You got fooled by the old bottle swapping trick and you are a liar .
(I am not being abusive , I am stating facts , Marcus lied about me starting a thread about punching a girl in the face), 
Probably his age and forgets things, don't be too hard on him.

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There's a lot more than 100,000 foreigners living in Thailand.

 

This is an old wiki, but in 2010, there was 2.5 million foreigners living in Thailand, and I am sure that doesn't take into account the hundreds of thousands living here on tourist visas. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Thailand

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2 minutes ago, roo860 said:

Probably his age and forgets things, don't be too hard on him.

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Agree, but you must admit that it's beyond the pale to punch a girl in the face.

 

Also, I've never seen the bottle swapping trick but a ladyboy once showed me how to change a bottle of Sangsom and a bottle of M150 into a bottle of JD.

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1 hour ago, Samui Bodoh said:

Hi All

 

I have been a member of TVF for several years now, and I am still a bit shocked at the low opinion that TVF members have of other TVF members in particular and other Thai expats in general.

 

Over the years, I have read here that other expats are 'criminals', the 'dregs of society', 'negative', 'prone to break the law', the 'worst of the worst', 'Thai-bashers', 'leeches', 'low-life from other countries who couldn't make it at home', Etc, Etc, Etc; I could probably fill an entire book with all the vitriol.

 

Why is this?

 

Personally, I am both well-educated and well-off (or, at least well-off enough) and I don't break any laws or cause trouble; objectively-speaking I am the kind of immigrant countries want. I don't really know of any law-breaking on the part of my friends and/or acquaintances. I don't really know of any of my friends and/or acquaintances treating their wives/GFs badly, even when they don't have the best of a relationship. I don't really know of any of my friends and/or acquaintances causing trouble or disrupting Thai society, yet they (and all expats) get slammed on TVF regularly. Yes, there is the occasional miscreant, but I have read that there are over 100,000 foreigners living in Thailand, so you have to expect a few, but not to the level sprinkled through TVF.

 

Is it the anonymity afforded by TVF to slag off other people? A human desire to lash out at others without a good reason? The ability to speak without consequence? The lack of visual, discernible reaction(s)? The fulfillment of one's day-dreams to 'give someone hell'? Am I simply not meeting the bad ones? Is it simply me, or do others see the glee in people's words when they are attacking others? Do you personally know some of these 'law-breakers' and/or 'bad people'?

 

My view is that Thailand's expats are generally well-off, well-behaved, cause few problems, and are (for the most part) an asset to the Kingdom.

 

Agree? Disagree? Why? 

Interesting post. I will follow it.

 

Personally I know a couple of law breakers and bad people. But as long as they leave me alone I leave them alone.

And even if I wanted to do anything against the bad once, what would I do? Go to the next police station and report them? I don't think that is a good idea.

 

If you think you don't know any of these people maybe think again. A long time ago in a country far away I had no idea about drugs. And I would have sworn that I didn't know anybody with drug experience. And then I met a nice girl (at least at that time I thought she is nice) with drug problem. So what should I do? So I asked some of my innocent friends if maybe they know someone who knows someone who knows about drugs. The reply was shocking to me. I knew a couple of people who were (ex) heroin and cocaine users. I just didn't know. And I didn't think I, the good guy, would know such people.

There is a good chance you know a couple of bad guys - but you don't realize it.

 

Back to TV: There are positive and negative people everywhere. And a few smart people and lots of idiots. I think TV is not much different in that perspective.

In some forums, i.e. the motorcycle section, seem to be lots of helpful people. In others, like the IT forum are a few experts, many who think they are experts, and some idiots. But as far as I see they are all harmless.

Here in this forum it is what at least I expect. Think about that idiot with the stupid smile at the end of the bar. What do you expect would he say if you would ever talk to him? Read TV and you get your answer...

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4 minutes ago, Leaver said:

There's a lot more than 100,000 foreigners living in Thailand.

 

This is an old wiki, but in 2010, there was 2.5 million foreigners living in Thailand, and I am sure that doesn't take into account the hundreds of thousands living here on tourist visas. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Thailand

There's a big difference between foreigners and farangs. There are 2 million immigrant Muslims alone in Thailand.

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A lot of this attitude stems from the "I'm more Thai than a Thai" complex. 

 

For some reason, so many here try so hard to be more Thai than every other farang.  I laugh at the ones with Thai tattoos that have no knowledge of the tattoo's real meaning. You can't really get citizenship here, so that retirement visa in the passport will still only give you the same rights as a tourist with a tourist visa. 

 

Also, many here think they know everything Thai, and everything Thailand, most of which they have learned the hard way, I would suggest, or possibly through a bar girl/s. I freely admit I'm always learning here, and I have no problem listening, rather than speaking. 

 

There's not a great deal of humility out there among the expats.  Everyone thinks they are smarter and richer than the next guy, and my girl is different, and that won't happen to me, the the Thai Government would never do this or that.  ????

 

The expat community here is an interesting one.   

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14 minutes ago, Leaver said:

I laugh at the ones with Thai tattoos that have no knowledge of the tattoo's real meaning. You can't really get citizenship here, so that retirement visa in the passport will still only give you the same rights as a tourist

Mine says "just visiting".

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2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

.... of course you must be right, everyone fails, ...........

It's inevitable, all life is failure else you would never die.

Only the length of time and the ways of failure are different.

 

If you're really lucky, you die quickly and unexpectedly before you realise/reach your point of failure.

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some posts and responses removed.

 

Keep it civil and dont get personal please.

 

7) You will respect fellow members and post in a civil manner. No personal attacks, hateful or insulting towards other members, (flaming) Stalking of members on either the forum or via PM will not be allowed.

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1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

Most people I meet are quite normal, intelligent and can enjoy a well balanced conversation with

There are two options:

a) you meet only few people, maybe in selected places, which makes it more likely that they are intelligent.

b) You don't recognize intelligence. Because by definition 50% of people have lower than average intelligence...

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1 hour ago, possum1931 said:

Your last sentence. I have only met three obvious bad expats, and I have been here for 13 years, and met many of them and known some for a few years who are all decent. Have never met any whose wife I disliked.

Maybe a lot has to do with your attitude to them. Try treating them the way you would like them to treat you.

I went out to a club with an expat and after a few drinks he took off his wooden leg and started dancing with the go go dancers on stage.  Another time one of the charming fellows urinated off the back of a tuk tuk.  Another time an older fellow pooped in a trash can on Soi Buakhow across the street from Noi's bar.  How many do you need?  The Irish taxi driver who tried to kill the groom at a wedding reception? 

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2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

There are two options:

a) you meet only few people, maybe in selected places, which makes it more likely that they are intelligent.

b) You don't recognize intelligence. Because by definition 50% of people have lower than average intelligence...

c) Because those characteristics which are undesirable are easy to spot & avoid.... 

Quite often you can judge a book by its cover.

 

That said, there are a few characters on here who’s opinions are comically idiotic. I’d like to meet them just to see if they are equally moronic in real life or is it just their trolling forum persona....

 

 

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