Brexit deadlocked again: British parliament fails to find an alternative

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

And he could have voted for Barnier. 

And just how could he do that?

[welovesundaysatspace]

9 minutes ago, nauseus said:

And just how could he do that?

I heard you have to draw a cross on a ballot paper. 

[nauseus]

16 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

I heard you have to draw a cross on a ballot paper. 

Old news. Barnier no longer holds elected office. Bye.

[bamboocore]

5 hours ago, nauseus said:

Old news. Barnier no longer holds elected office. Bye.

Is there a reason we Europeans shouldn't put our best people against you, when negotiating new trade deals and also the Brexit outcome?

 

We Europeans do like expertees. We like to support the collective knowledge we have gained over the years and decades. 

 

You Brexiteers love to give your power to the people who yells the loudest, I guess. 

 

Well, that's not how we do politics. We like to think before we act. Too bad, you vile action doesn't work in our domain. 

[malagateddy]

Is there a reason we Europeans shouldn't put our best people against you, when negotiating new trade deals and also the Brexit outcome?
 
We Europeans do like expertees. We like to support the collective knowledge we have gained over the years and decades. 
 
You Brexiteers love to give your power to the people who yells the loudest, I guess. 
 
Well, that's not how we do politics. We like to think before we act. Too bad, you vile action doesn't work in our domain. 

Please explain " vile action "

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[vogie]

"It used to be said that there are many forms of Brexit but only one form of remain. The opposite is true. In fact the only options being debated by Parliament are varying forms of Remain." Vote Brexit Party. Change politics for good @brexitparty_uk

[nauseus]

5 hours ago, bamboocore said:

Is there a reason we Europeans shouldn't put our best people against you, when negotiating new trade deals and also the Brexit outcome?

 

We Europeans do like expertees. We like to support the collective knowledge we have gained over the years and decades. 

 

You Brexiteers love to give your power to the people who yells the loudest, I guess. 

 

Well, that's not how we do politics. We like to think before we act. Too bad, you vile action doesn't work in our domain. 

No reason but that's not the point here.

[transam]

5 hours ago, bamboocore said:

Is there a reason we Europeans shouldn't put our best people against you, when negotiating new trade deals and also the Brexit outcome?

 

We Europeans do like expertees. We like to support the collective knowledge we have gained over the years and decades. 

 

You Brexiteers love to give your power to the people who yells the loudest, I guess. 

 

Well, that's not how we do politics. We like to think before we act. Too bad, you vile action doesn't work in our domain. 

Really, like taking Greece onboard.....????

[welovesundaysatspace]

10 hours ago, nauseus said:

Old news. Barnier no longer holds elected office. Bye.

You asked a question. You got an answer. You don’t like it because it shows you’re wrong. Fine. 

[welovesundaysatspace]

49 minutes ago, vogie said:

"It used to be said that there are many forms of Brexit but only one form of remain. The opposite is true. In fact the only options being debated by Parliament are varying forms of Remain." Vote Brexit Party. Change politics for good @brexitparty_uk

Utter nonsense, but fine — that’s how Brexiteers are defeating themselves. 

[evadgib]

5 hours ago, bamboocore said:

Is there a reason we Europeans shouldn't put our best people against you, when negotiating new trade deals and also the Brexit outcome?

 

We Europeans do like expertees. We like to support the collective knowledge we have gained over the years and decades. 

 

You Brexiteers love to give your power to the people who yells the loudest, I guess. 

 

Well, that's not how we do politics. We like to think before we act. Too bad, you vile action doesn't work in our domain. 

'You Brexiters' being Europeans in their own right; therefore...

Edited April 18, 2019 by evadgib

[nauseus]

14 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

You asked a question. You got an answer. You don’t like it because it shows you’re wrong. Fine. 

Send the source data for you ballot paper then. 

[nauseus]

13 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Utter nonsense, but fine — that’s how Brexiteers are defeating themselves. 

That very statement is nonsense.

[evadgib]

This isn't a complete surprise but I nonetheless appreciate his effort & note that it isn't yet over : 

 

Edited April 18, 2019 by evadgib

[welovesundaysatspace]

2 hours ago, nauseus said:

Send the source data for you ballot paper then. 

Maybe this one here? Source

[nauseus]

28 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Maybe this one here? Source

What I thought. Not elected.

[welovesundaysatspace]

34 minutes ago, nauseus said:

What I thought. Not elected.

Post a source for your claim. 

[thaibeachlovers]

If their employment depended on finding a solution, there would be one by next week.

[nauseus]

The page linked shows a great letter from John Redwood to the Attorney General with questions about the wonderful withdrawal agreement. More than just a few concerns there (all without the backstop proposal):

 

https://facts4eu.org/news/2019_apr_redwood_questions_attorney_general 

[aright]

2 hours ago, nauseus said:

The page linked shows a great letter from John Redwood to the Attorney General with questions about the wonderful withdrawal agreement. More than just a few concerns there (all without the backstop proposal):

 

https://facts4eu.org/news/2019_apr_redwood_questions_attorney_general 

No doubt about it, it's a black hole Brexit.

It's not a bad deal it's an atrocious deal!  

[nauseus]

25 minutes ago, aright said:

No doubt about it, it's a black hole Brexit.

It's not a bad deal it's an atrocious deal!  

I don't know how anyone can describe it as a "deal" really. 

 

It is a punishment for daring to try and leave. Simples.

[welovesundaysatspace]

11 minutes ago, nauseus said:

I don't know how anyone can describe it as a "deal" really. 

 

It is a punishment for daring to try and leave. Simples.

It’s the only deal you get. It’s better than no deal. It’s that one or endless limbo (or no Brexit). That’s the reality. Even if you don’t like it. 

Edited April 19, 2019 by welovesundaysatspace

[aright]

11 minutes ago, nauseus said:

I don't know how anyone can describe it as a "deal" really. 

 

It is a punishment for daring to try and leave. Simples.

Precisely!

The government, the civil service, the entire political, academic, corporate and media establishment have been trying to undermine the referendum vote and stop us from leaving. The government have been working to that narrative and so has produced an agreement to serve that end. They see leaving the EU as a damage limitation exercise not an opportunity to be embraced. They simply do not trust themselves to run an independent sovereign nation and after the past two years I don't either.

[nauseus]

6 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

It’s the only deal you get. It’s better than no deal. It’s that one or endless limbo (or no Brexit). That’s the reality. Even if you don’t like it. 

Well I disagree with you, of course and as always. No deal looks to me more and more like the best and only way. 

[welovesundaysatspace]

3 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Well I disagree with you, of course and as always. No deal looks to me more and more like the best and only way. 

Like I said, let’s stick to the reality. There is no majority for a no deal Brexit. 

[nauseus]

2 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Like I said, let’s stick to the reality. There is no majority for a no deal Brexit. 

Well, that could change.

[aright]

17 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Like I said, let’s stick to the reality. There is no majority for a no deal Brexit. 

There was no majority in the referendum for Remaining either and look how the government and many of you responded to that

[welovesundaysatspace]

3 hours ago, aright said:

There was no majority in the referendum for Remaining either and look how the government and many of you responded to that

The majorities in parliament matter. Let’s see what those will be. 

[aright]

52 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

The majorities in parliament matter. Let’s see what those will be. 

 

What has happened to “the decision is yours, and yours alone. Not Parliament’s but yours”. That meant us the voters, or so we were told. 

It's the ultimate Remainers hypocrisy Parliament matters Joe Public doesn't, as is their strategy to water down 52/48 to 0/100 and their shameful volte face after their endorsement of Article 50. They are complicit in seeking a status quo which is contrary to  British tradition , more in line with EU tradition.

In the last 2 years there has been blood on the boots of many but it is not on the boots of voters.

 

[welovesundaysatspace]

2 minutes ago, aright said:

 

What has happened to “the decision is yours, and yours alone. Not Parliament’s but yours”. That meant us the voters, or so we were told. 

It's the ultimate Remainers hypocrisy Parliament matters Joe Public doesn't, as is their strategy to water down 52/48 to 0/100 and their shameful volte face after their endorsement of Article 50. They are complicit in seeking a status quo which is contrary to  British tradition , more in line with EU tradition.

In the last 2 years there has been blood on the boots of many but it is not on the boots of voters.

 

Like I said before, come back to reality. Parliament is sovereign and always has been. Referendums are non-binding and have always been.