Do you believe in God and why

[Lacessit]

52 minutes ago, CMNightRider said:

We are in the "end times" but not at the end yet.  Perhaps you should read the Bible from start to finish.  It will only take you about 70 hours.  When we die, we will all stand before Jesus.  

 

According to the Bible, if we deny Him, He will also deny us.  Matthew 7:13,14 "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it.  Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it."

 

 

 

 

 

 

Seems to me there's some fairly vindictive interpretations of the Bible in your posts. Your God doesn't appear to have room for love and mercy. Or perhaps that is you.

I have read the Bible from cover to cover. It uses belief as a substitute for rational explanation of natural phenomena which science has explained in more enlightened times.

 

“You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, burning bushes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories, and you say that we are the ones that need help?" –Mark Twain

[Odysseus123]

8 minutes ago, ballpoint said:

 

That always gets me.  So, we're told this all powerful god fellow has been around for eternity, but he's been sitting about in the dark until one day he decides to have a bit of light.  And, where was he living for all that time before he created the heavens anyway?

 

Then, sometime later, he sacrifices his only son, all the time knowing he's just going to resurrect him a few days later.  Bit of a cop out isn't it?

So ..what you are really saying is that God got a visa to Thailand,sat in a dark bar in Pattaya until someone switched the lights on...told his son Isaac in Oz to stop bothering him and resurrected himself on ThaiVisa?

Edited April 16, 2019 by Odysseus123

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Religions are just tale books used by some dodgy people to empower themselves and suppress or enslave others


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[stephen tracy]

On 4/14/2019 at 7:16 PM, GinBoy2 said:

I struggle with this

 

What I would say however, that religion, whether or not you believe as an adult, as a child it provides you with a moral compass, which at least for me, has served me well through my life

Fair enough. Although I've never required a deity to understand what is morally questionable. It's fairly straight forward in most cases. As in, would I want someone to hurt me in any way, shape or form? No. So I've always taken it as a given that others feel the same, therefore I wouldn't hurt them either. 

[notmyself]

2 minutes ago, stephen tracy said:

Fair enough. Although I've never required a deity to understand what is morally questionable. It's fairly straight forward in most cases. As in, would I want someone to hurt me in any way, shape or form? No. So I've always taken it as a given that others feel the same, therefore I wouldn't hurt them either. 

 

The Golden Rule is the principle of treating others as one's self would wish to be treated. It is a maxim that is found in many religions and cultures.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Rule

 

It says 'rule' but it's actually an observation on human behaviour.

 

[stephen tracy]

On 4/14/2019 at 11:16 PM, transam said:

You been there...?  

 

Do you know anyone that has been there..?

Yeah, it's in Cheang Wattana

[stephen tracy]

On 4/15/2019 at 2:00 AM, Lacessit said:

There is an interesting statistic in relation to science and Muslims. There are 15 million Jews in the world. They have produced over 200 Nobel Laureates in what I would call the hard sciences - chemistry, physics and mathematics.

There are 1.8 billion Muslim adherents on the planet. They have achieved just two Nobel prizes in the same fields. Draw your own conclusions.

Well, to be fair, during the Islamic Empire sciences, medicine, art, literature architecture etc flourished. This was while in the Christian west even basic hygiene was virtually non-existent. Of course, that was a different time. Muslim societies seem to have regressed dramatically since then.  Nobel is a relatively new thing in the grand scheme.

[55Jay]

 

[sweatalot]

3 hours ago, yodsak said:

 

Read more than a small biased book. Question more. Research. Plenty evidence he existed. Killed by Pilate.

Also  mentioned by Pliny and Tacitus,  2 hi-so Roman politicians .

Pliny writes of the christians ''pig headed obstinacy'' 

Tacitus calls their religion a destructive superstition.  [ not wrong there ]

 

No evidence he was the son of god, performed miracles , or rose from the dead though.

 

mentioned because they read the fiction called bible? or " new testament"?

that doesn't prove anything - only to those who want to believe (not caring if true)?

 

 

 

[Ctkong]

8 hours ago, lvr181 said:

Does buddhism have a god? ???? Or is buddhism a way of life?

Buddhism is not only a way of life but also a philosophy about self enlightenment. From what I know, Buddhism expounded that we create the spiritual world we live in by our actions. If we do good, we create a heaven in our mind. If we do bad, we create our own hell. I personally believed that because of our actions in our daily life, we create an environment in our body that resonates with other people with similar vibrations. And when we die, we will automatically resonates towards that frequency which may denote the spiritual world. This is essentially our fundamental self.  

[DaRoadrunner]

No one seems able to agree on this subject as none have proof.

 

At least we have proof of the existence of Hell on Earth.... Thai Immigration.

[notmyself]

8 hours ago, lvr181 said:

Does buddhism have a god? ???? Or is buddhism a way of life?

 

Buddha was supposedly born out of a slit in his mothers side after she was impregnated by a flash of light. 

[sweatalot]

34 minutes ago, notmyself said:

 

Buddha was supposedly born out of a slit in his mothers side after she was impregnated by a flash of light. 

yeah - that's an ivention of those who wanted to make him divine (after his death).

It is not true and not important.

Important is what he teaches. And that is deep and has nothing to do with blind believe. What the institutions made of it is quite a different story.

Edited April 16, 2019 by sweatalot

[notmyself]

30 minutes ago, sweatalot said:

yeah - that's an ivention of those who wanted to make him divine (after his death).

It is not true and not important.

Important is what he teaches. And that is deep and has nothing to do with blind believe. What the institutions made of it is quite a different story.

 

Yep. For some there is no question it's a religion while for others it's a way of life, a way of thought. I could go into its Hindu and far eastern animistic roots but some may find it offensive so better I keep it to myself.

[GinBoy2]

Religion is one of those weird things.

 

I not very devout, an Easter & Christmas mass kinda guy, much to the distress of my long deceased  Mom.

 

But having any sort of belief in something greater than you, at least for me gives life some purpose.

 

Your religion of choice, or as in Buddhism which has no deity, that's up to you.

 

Curiously my Thai wife, since there is no temple here, goes the local Catholic church, without me I might add, but it seems to give her piece of mind

Edited April 16, 2019 by GinBoy2

[joecoolfrog]

9 hours ago, mauGR1 said:

Colours don't exist for the blind.

Why not go the whole hog and worship the Easter Bunny as well , at least his fans dont slaughter each other over procedural matters.

[mauGR1]

3 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

Why not go the whole hog and worship the Easter Bunny as well , at least his fans dont slaughter each other over procedural matters.

You are barking to the wrong tree, what are you on about ?

Pls put down the bottle and get a grip.

[joecoolfrog]

9 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:

Hmm..let us examine a few wars of the 20th century-presumably most of the posters here were born prior to 2001.

 

The Boer War?

The Philippines Insurrection?

The Ist World War?

The 2nd Word War?

The Korean War?

The Vietnam War?

Desert Storm?

 

I think not.

Im sorry , did I give the impression that all wars were down to religion , no thought not , pathetic deflection.

Do you consider cancer trivial because Malaria is historically the bigger killer ?

[joecoolfrog]

3 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

You are barking to the wrong tree, what are you on about ?

Pls put down the bottle and get a grip.

Says the man who worships an invisible sky daddy lol.

[mauGR1]

Just now, joecoolfrog said:

Says the man who worships an invisible sky daddy lol.

Mate, sorry but you've lost the plot, get some help asap.

[joecoolfrog]

On 4/15/2019 at 2:13 AM, mauGR1 said:

No, it's not.

Many scientists know that "intelligent design" is quite likely, only there is no way , so far, to prove it, or disprove it.

That is a complete fabrication.

[gunderhill]

2 hours ago, Ctkong said:

spiritual world

more vagueness, again no evidence.

[joecoolfrog]

23 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

Mate, sorry but you've lost the plot, get some help asap.

 

23 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

Mate, sorry but you've lost the plot, get some help asap.

I find most pseudo intellectuals resort to silly insults when their spurious arguments are laid bare.

[gunderhill]

1 hour ago, notmyself said:

but some may find it offensive

NO, you should never be afraid  to offend, the worlds  full of this "taking offence "  rubbish today.

[mauGR1]

1 minute ago, joecoolfrog said:

That is a complete fabrication.

I have my opinions, which may be different tomorrow, if you don't like it, so be it

[gunderhill]

Go back to Roman times and "Mars" was a god along with many others.

Mars, wev'e been there its dead as a  dodo and all gods  will slowly go the same way in time.

Each time science disproves some religious  nonsense that religion changes the rules or says it was an "interpretation" or  "not  literal"

[mauGR1]

3 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

 

I find most pseudo intellectuals resort to silly insults when their spurious arguments are laid bare.

You are right, and i apologize. All the best to you.

[joecoolfrog]

4 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

I have my opinions, which may be different tomorrow, if you don't like it, so be it

So as well as not knowing the definition of logic , you cant distinguish an opinion from a stated fact ...impressive !

[Date Masamune]

No. Not the slightest evidence has ever been shown to prove the existence of any Dieties or supernatural processes.

 

[joecoolfrog]

4 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

You are right, and i apologize. All the best to you.

Its all fun mate.