Jonathan Fairfield Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Trump to Putin - Please don't meddle in U.S. elections By Roberta Rampton OSAKA (Reuters) - President Donald Trump on Friday sardonically asked his Russian counterpart to please not meddle in U.S. elections, appearing to make light of a scandal that led to an investigation of his campaign's contact with the Kremlin during 2016 elections. A two-year investigation into a Moscow-run influence campaign during the election has hung over Trump's presidency, frustrating the Republican president who has said he seeks better relations with Russia. Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin were speaking to reporters in Osaka, Japan, ahead of their first formal face-to-face meeting since a controversial high-profile summit in Helsinki last July. Asked by reporters whether he would raise the issue during their meeting, held on the sidelines of a Group of 20 (G20) summit, Trump said: "Yes, of course I will," drawing a laugh from Putin. Trump then turned to Putin to give the directive twice, as he pointed a finger at the Russian leader. "Don't meddle in the election, please," Trump said. Trump's critics have accused him of being too friendly with Putin and castigated him for failing to publicly confront the Russian leader in Helsinki after U.S. intelligence agencies concluded that Russian operatives had hacked into Democratic Party computers and used fake social media accounts to attack his opponent, Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton. A U.S. special counsel, Robert Mueller, spent two years investigating whether there were any ties between Trump's campaign and Moscow. Mueller found that Russia did meddle in the election but found no evidence that the Trump campaign illegally conspired with it to influence the vote. 2019-06-28T055421Z_1_LOV000L2VLLDB_RTRMADV_STREAM-2000-16X9-MP4_G20-SUMMIT-TRUMP-PUTIN-ROUGH-CUT.MP4 'POSITIVE THINGS' Relations between the two countries have been sour for years, worsening after Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine in 2014 and backed Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in the Syrian war. In a recent television interview, Putin said that relations between Moscow and Washington were "getting worse and worse." Trump has sought to turn the page to work with Putin on issues such as reining in North Korea's nuclear ambitions. On Friday, he emphasised the positive. "It's a great honour to be with President Putin," he told reporters. "We have many things to discuss, including trade and including some disarmament." Trump and Putin had been scheduled to meet at the end of November at the last G20 in Buenos Aires, but Trump cancelled the meeting as he flew to Argentina, citing Russia's seizure of Ukrainian navy ships and sailors. The two spoke informally at the event, and at a lunch in Paris earlier that month. In May, they had their first extensive phone conversation in months. Trump said they talked about a new accord to limit nuclear arms that could eventually include China. "We've had great meetings. We've had a very, very good relationship," Trump said on Friday. "And we look forward to spending some very good time together. A lot of very positive things going to come out of the relationship." In a further attempt to lighten the mood, Trump sought common ground with Putin at the expense of the journalists gathered to catch the leaders at the outset of their meeting. "Get rid of them. Fake news is a great term, isn't it. You don't have this problem in Russia but we do," Trump said. To which Putin responded, in English: "We also have. It's the same." (Additional reporting Maria Vasilyeva in MOSCOW; Writing by Chang-Ran Kim; Editing by Clarence Fernandez, Robert Birsel) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-06-28 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Boon Mee Posted June 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2019 The Democrats are going ballestic over Trump pointing ???? to Putin and telling him not to meddle! 555 2 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TopDeadSenter Posted June 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Boon Mee said: The Democrats are going ballestic over Trump pointing ???? to Putin and telling him not to meddle! 555 I'm not surprised. It just made the ridiculous collusion hoax and saga even more farcical. If that was possible. 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neeray Posted June 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2019 29 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said: I'm not surprised. It just made the ridiculous collusion hoax and saga even more farcical. If that was possible. Farcical ! On the very same day that former POTUS Jimmy Carter suggested that Trump is an "illegitimate President". And he went on to say that "he didn't really win the election". Farcical! Yeah, right. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Proboscis Posted June 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2019 1 hour ago, neeray said: Farcical ! On the very same day that former POTUS Jimmy Carter suggested that Trump is an "illegitimate President". And he went on to say that "he didn't really win the election". Farcical! Yeah, right. Well Trump won the election even though he got 2 million votes fewer then his opponent. How legitimate is that? 3 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BestB Posted June 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2019 Hope Putin told him to stop meddling in Russian affairs or Russian borders , an unpopular view I realise yet Russia only started meddling in US affairs after US created Ukraine fiasco 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Just now, Proboscis said: Well Trump won the election even though he got 2 million votes fewer then his opponent. How legitimate is that? Same as for Bush? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BobBKK Posted June 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2019 Just now, BestB said: Hope Putin told him to stop meddling in Russian affairs or Russian borders , an unpopular view I realise yet Russia only started meddling in US affairs after US created Ukraine fiasco USA meddles EVERYWHERE they all do 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted June 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2019 I really do not mind if you meddle, and I appreciate it, if you help me win by using vicious disinformation, but please be discreet, and do not get caught. It makes me look bad, and then I have to spend years denying your involvement. 6 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted June 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2019 Putin to Trump can you put that in a tweet as I may forget???? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neeray Posted June 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2019 30 minutes ago, Proboscis said: Well Trump won the election even though he got 2 million votes fewer then his opponent. How legitimate is that? I think what Carter is talking about is that he didn't win it fair and square. I believe Carter is suggesting that without Russian interference help, he would not have won. Thus, help from an adversarial nation makes it an illegitimate win. But Trump doesn't care. All that matters to him is that he "won". I doubt that such help will be tendered in 2020. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, tomazbodner said: Trump asks Putin not to meddle in US elections? Of course Trump would never meddle in UK's elections, or try to overthrow Venezuela's or Iranian governments, or those of... pretty much any country US government doesn't like. So what was that statement really? "Listen Vlad, stop meddling in other countries' elections. That's my job!" Also known as "lip service". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 A troll post removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jany123 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 18 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said: Trump then turned to Putin to give the directive twice, as he pointed a finger at the Russian leader. And with a wink and a nod, barely able to conceal a wry grin, said... 18 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said: “Don't meddle in the election, please," Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ramdas Posted June 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) The sooner they get rid of that illiterate clown the better will be for the entire world and at home in the US, I can’t believe he’s still there causing damage in whichever way he can, what a global disaster he is ????????♂️ Edited June 29, 2019 by Ramdas 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptRon2 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 37 minutes ago, jany123 said: And with a wink and a nod, barely able to conceal a wry grin, said... How cute! Very humorous, however to me It brought back bad memories of the Obama statement of being more flexible after the election during his famous hot mike moment. Your great imagination is truly entertaining. However as amusing as your fictitious story is, it can’t even begin to compete with the real life event, or with the entertainment value of Barack’s Blunder! Now that was priceless! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jany123 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, CaptRon2 said: How cute! Very humorous, however to me It brought back bad memories of the Obama statement of being more flexible after the election during his famous hot mike moment. Your great imagination is truly entertaining. However as amusing as your fictitious story is, it can’t even begin to compete with the real life event, or with the entertainment value of Barack’s Blunder! Now that was priceless! 555.... one blunder does not a blunderer make now the trump... well... I can see many a heart broken comedian going hungry when his presidency finally collapses 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 A flame bordering on a personal attack has been removed. Please also note a persons nationality is of no importance on Thai Visa forum, many people from all nationalities participate and have a voice here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb61 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 I keep reading many comments that contributors make with "absolute certainty" that Trump lost the popular vote by 2 million votes. Perhaps, instead of repeating the mush that high paid mockingbirds want us to repeat, it would behoove us to do a little research with open mindedness. Study supports Trump: 5.7 million noncitizens may have cast illegal votes: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/19/noncitizen-illegal-vote-number-higher-than-estimat/ Did Votes By Noncitizens Cost Trump The 2016 Popular Vote? Sure Looks That Way https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/did-votes-by-noncitizens-cost-trump-the-2016-popular-vote-sure-looks-that-way/ Researchers stated that illegal aliens voted over 80% democrat. hummmmmm 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb61 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Keep reading comments from contributors "with absolute certainty" that Trump lost the popular vote by 2 million votes. A bit of research raises interesting questions and issues "if you are open minded". Trump Is Right — Millions Of Illegals Probably Did Vote In 2016. https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-is-right-millions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/ Study supports Trump: 5.7 million noncitizens may have cast illegal votes. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/19/noncitizen-illegal-vote-number-higher-thanestimat/ the so called "fact checkers" snopes and polifacts (left leaning fact checkers) tried to debunk these studies but were debunked themselves. Researchers stated illegal aliens overwhelmingly (80%) vote democrat. Hummmmmmmmmm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 22 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said: President Donald Trump on Friday sardonically asked his Russian counterpart to please not meddle in U.S. elections, Blink blink nudge nudge ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted June 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2019 3 hours ago, jb61 said: I keep reading many comments that contributors make with "absolute certainty" that Trump lost the popular vote by 2 million votes. Perhaps, instead of repeating the mush that high paid mockingbirds want us to repeat, it would behoove us to do a little research with open mindedness. Study supports Trump: 5.7 million noncitizens may have cast illegal votes: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/19/noncitizen-illegal-vote-number-higher-than-estimat/ Did Votes By Noncitizens Cost Trump The 2016 Popular Vote? Sure Looks That Way https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/did-votes-by-noncitizens-cost-trump-the-2016-popular-vote-sure-looks-that-way/ Researchers stated that illegal aliens voted over 80% democrat. hummmmmm Lol. Even the commission appointed by Trump did not find anything! More about the study at the origin of the articles: "In this 2008 survey of 32,800 respondents, 339 identified themselves as non-citizens, and 38 of these non-citizens checked a box that said “I definitely voted” in the 2008 general election or were recorded in the Catalist database as voting in that election" "On the low side, the authors noted that only five non-citizens who said they voted were recorded in the Catalist database as voting. " ???? https://www.justfactsdaily.com/substantial-numbers-of-non-citizens-vote-illegally-in-u-s-elections/ 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 7 hours ago, neeray said: Farcical ! On the very same day that former POTUS Jimmy Carter suggested that Trump is an "illegitimate President". And he went on to say that "he didn't really win the election". Farcical! Yeah, right. Jimmy Carter, a nut who farmed nuts and is not exactly known as a star President! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 6 hours ago, Proboscis said: Well Trump won the election even though he got 2 million votes fewer then his opponent. How legitimate is that? Totally legitimate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropposurfer Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Pwease pwetty pwease, ill let you be my best friend n okay with my toys if you’ll be nice ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usviphotography Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Proboscis said: Well Trump won the election even though he got 2 million votes fewer then his opponent. How legitimate is that? Even if that were true (and as has been noted, we have no ideal how many illegals voted so we don't know if that is even true), it would be as legitimate as a Wimbledon Champion who won the final 1-6, 7-5, 2-6, 6-4, 7-5. The popular vote is not, nor has it ever been, of any relevance in deciding the US Presidency. There is pronounced correlation between popular vote and outcome, just as there is a pronounced correlation in tennis between games won and the outcome of a match, but that is the extent of it. Winning the most games in a match wins you nothing by itself, just as winning the popular vote wins you nothing in the US Presidential race. And if winning games or the popular vote did matter, then the strategy of the competitors would change dramatically. Trump and Hillary both would have run wildly different campaigns than the ones they did and who knows what the outcome of that would have been. Great interview of Putin in the FT the other day, for anybody who is interested. Really highlights how deep Putin's understanding of the modern political world really is: https://www.ft.com/content/878d2344-98f0-11e9-9573-ee5cbb98ed36 Edited June 29, 2019 by usviphotography 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted June 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2019 45's behavior adjacent to Putin is a disgrace. Yes, he still behaves as if he is COMPROMISED by Russia. How else can it be explained? Quote Rather than defend democracy, Trump jokes with Putin WHEN IT comes to American democracy, the attack on the presidential election in 2016 is no joking matter — and no mystery. Russia’s military intelligence service stole campaign emails and leaked them to help candidate Donald Trump, while streams of incendiary social media posts and online ads were paraded before American voters. After all that, Mr. Trump on Friday kissed off the concerns, once again. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/rather-than-defend-democracy-trump-jokes-with-putin/2019/06/28/d162d164-99bb-11e9-916d-9c61607d8190_story.html 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptRon2 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 58 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: Jimmy Carter, a nut who farmed nuts and is not exactly known as a star President! Not only did neeray not include a reference for his source, he also left out the part of the story where Good Old Jimmy called for an investigation into this ( not a quote) I guess since he long ago passed 90 years, we can forgive Mr Carter for forgetting about the Muller Witch-hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted June 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2019 Not only did neeray not include a reference for his source, he also left out the part of the story where Good Old Jimmy called for an investigation into this ( not a quote) I guess since he long ago passed 90 years, we can forgive Mr Carter for forgetting about the Muller Witch-hunt. Was not a witch hunt.Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Becker Posted June 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2019 53 minutes ago, usviphotography said: Great interview of Putin in the FT the other day, for anybody who is interested. Really highlights how deep Putin's understanding of the modern political world really is: https://www.ft.com/content/878d2344-98f0-11e9-9573-ee5cbb98ed36 What?? That's like commending a serial rapist for his deep understanding of the behavioral pattern of women. Putin is a despot and a killer who sends his henchmen around the world to kill opponents of his regime. No wonder his asset in the WH is so in awe of him. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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