Rich Indians to the Rescue as Chinese Tourists Shun Thailand

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38 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

rarely with an indian, in CM I saw a mama san exhorting the girls to sit with two Indian males who had been sitting by themselves for an hour, nobody took any notice, I had two sitting with me.

 

That's becuz you're so  special.

[RichardColeman]

2 hours ago, owl sees all said:

Because the Thai ladies are so accommodating, cheap and will do anything for few baht.

Yes, but not usually 10 for the same price

[Millcx]

4 hours ago, piewarmer said:

The Thai exchange rate gives poor value to tourists, once the rich Indians have had their one visit they will move on to greener pastures, just like the Chinese. I don't know any Thai who has nice things to say about Indian people, they will feel unwelcome, so I don't expect any long term boom.

100% ..... I’m left wondering if these articles are just Daily Mail style writings or True ... The Baht needs to be devalued ... if not then it’s only a matter of time... It’s the Rise and fall 

[bluesofa]

17 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

26 minutes ago, Jimdandy said:

Maybe someone should let those arrogant girls on TF know to stop posting 'No Indians' on their pages.

They are not obliged to accept customers who they don't want. 

Running a GoGo Bar years ago, we too had a sign, which the girls calling customers in held up when appropriate. It said, 'Members only' The reality was it was only shown to Arabs and Indians.

Why? We had a lot of customers who said things like, "If she's been with an Indian or an Arab, I'm not interested in bar fining her."

As 95% of our customers were ferangs, it was purely a business decision.

OK, I'm waiting for the flak...

 

Edited July 8, 2019 by bluesofa
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[Millcx]

1 minute ago, bluesofa said:

Running a GoGo Bar years ago, we too had a sign, which the girls calling customers in held up when appropriate. It said, 'Members only' The reality was it was only shown to Arabs and Indians.

Why? We had a lot of customers who said things like, "If she's been with an Indian or and Arab, I'm not interested in bar fining her."

As 95% of our customers were ferangs, it was purely a business decision.

OK, I'm waiting for the flak...

Don’t think your wrong in anyway

[BobbyL]

Arrrgghh, lovely. The slight aroma of curry will be wafting around the beaches of Thailand for the foreseeable future. 

[BestB]

41 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Just a couple of photos of the big Indian nightclubs in Pattaya. Makes you wonder how they make money being full of 4 guys sharing one drink.

"OR", just maybe its just a myth.

So in your expert opinion because it’s full it means everyone is drinking and spending money ? Or your wife also owns this club so you can confirm as a fact all drinking and all spending money 

[CharlieH]

Numerous posts removed for a variety of reasons.

[Petchou]

All foreigners beggars I have seen in Thailand are westerners.  Never seen an Indian.  It tells lot of reality.  The rest is just hallucinations and prejudices.

[marcusarelus]

10 minutes ago, ThomasThBKK said:

 

Because you can't just go in Wikipedia? Because the tourist numbers don't get published here like once a week? Do you even know anything about the country you live in?

Wikipedia goes on to say that there are 250,000 long-term mainland Chinese; 105,000 Indians, most of them Sikhs and of which 80% hold dual Thai citizenship; 44,000 Japanese, 25,000 Americans; 75,000 Europeans not broken down by nationality; 15,000 Taiwanese; 20,000 South Koreans; 7,500 Australians; 12,000 Arabs; 20,000 Malaysians; 4,000 Singaporeans; 5,000 Filipinos; and 800 New Zealanders. 

https://www.dougsrepublic.com/thailand/foreigners.php

 

The other number I hear quoted is 7 million foreigners living in Thailand.  36,000 does not seem like a big number.  

 

[Lacessit]

3 hours ago, whaleboneman said:

And what would justify extraordinary racism?

Extraordinary bad manners.

[Petchou]

4 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

Running a GoGo Bar years ago, we too had a sign, which the girls calling customers in held up when appropriate. It said, 'Members only' The reality was it was only shown to Arabs and Indians.

Why? We had a lot of customers who said things like, "If she's been with an Indian or an Arab, I'm not interested in bar fining her."

As 95% of our customers were ferangs, it was purely a business decision.

OK, I'm waiting for the flak...

 

It was not a business decision, it was the translation of bigotry of your farang customers and you made it a decision because you believe in same thing.   You said it clearly.  

[Peterw42]

1 minute ago, BestB said:

So in your expert opinion because it’s full it means everyone is drinking and spending money ? Or your wife also owns this club so you can confirm as a fact all drinking and all spending money 

They are somehow making money, so yes, I would presume someone is drinking. Like any business they would be shut if not making money.

[Lacessit]

57 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

rarely with an indian, in CM I saw a mama san exhorting the girls to sit with two Indian males who had been sitting by themselves for an hour, nobody took any notice, I had two sitting with me.

Indians are not well regarded by Thais due to their dark skin. Nearly all Thais make the assumption dark skin = working in the rice fields = poor. I know one Indian guy who is filthy rich, but he still gets the same attitude from light-skinned Thai women. Funnily enough, when I suggested he should try an Issan girl, his reaction was the same.

[Kevbo]

4 hours ago, ChipButty said:

Just recently Ive seen groups of Indians around Rawai I can tell they are not rich Indians cheap charlie tour groups 1 coke and 4 straws 

Even rich Indians do that

[CharlieH]

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[marcusarelus]

Don't know if they still do it but I remember the Indian people from Singapore insisting they were not Indian but Singaporean.  

[Baerboxer]

17 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

Running a GoGo Bar years ago, we too had a sign, which the girls calling customers in held up when appropriate. It said, 'Members only' The reality was it was only shown to Arabs and Indians.

Why? We had a lot of customers who said things like, "If she's been with an Indian or an Arab, I'm not interested in bar fining her."

As 95% of our customers were ferangs, it was purely a business decision.

OK, I'm waiting for the flak...

 

 

It was a sensible business decision.

 

When I lived in India I attended one Rotary club meeting where the speaker was a lady from an Indian NGO talking on prostitution. The numbers of prostitutes in India dwarfs the numbers of ones in SEA. And a very large proportion were HIV positive. She said other STD's were rampant. A big user of sex workers were lorry drivers in India who spread diseases as they traveled around. 

The sex industry in India was well hidden at that time, before "escorts" advertising on the net became common. I never met one single sex tourist and only know of one Westerner who used sex workers regularly.

 

Why risk 95% of your clientele to accommodate customers who aren't wanted by your workers?

[OtinPattaya]

Nothing against the Indians, but the only thing ,and I mean the only thing, that makes life possible for the eastern  Indians in Thailand is the very proximity. Beyond that they are in farang hell. Imagine, for one instant, that an eastern Indian, or an Australian, for that matter, has to travel 30 hours just to get to the LOS.  , 

[d2b2]

5 hours ago, WinnieTheKhwai said:

Good.  However TAT needs to promote specific regions, it's not good enough if Indians only ever visit Pattaya and Phuket.  

Oh please do keep the tourists confined there

[bluesofa]

13 minutes ago, Petchou said:

19 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

Running a GoGo Bar years ago, we too had a sign, which the girls calling customers in held up when appropriate. It said, 'Members only' The reality was it was only shown to Arabs and Indians.

Why? We had a lot of customers who said things like, "If she's been with an Indian or an Arab, I'm not interested in bar fining her."

As 95% of our customers were ferangs, it was purely a business decision.

OK, I'm waiting for the flak...

It was not a business decision, it was the translation of bigotry of your farang customers and you made it a decision because you believe in same thing.   You said it clearly.  

You can't seem to separate business from racism. Looking after the majority of paying customers interests doesn't have to equate to my personal opinion, whether they said for racists reasons or not. It's nothing to do with being PC.

There is no law in Thailand concerning racism, as to who has to be admitted to premises.

 

One point I forgot to add: In our monthly staff meetings, the dancers in the past asked if they had to go with an Indian who wanted to bar fine them. The girls wanted to be able to refuse as they said the Indians body odour was really bad.

I didn't make that up to justify my post in case you might be going to say that, I simply forgot to mention it originally.

[bkk6060]

28 minutes ago, Petchou said:

All foreigners beggars I have seen in Thailand are westerners.  Never seen an Indian.  It tells lot of reality.  The rest is just hallucinations and prejudices.

What about all the: you are a very lucky man...

dudes in Bangkok?

India I think.

Not begging but scamming....

Edited July 8, 2019 by bkk6060

[Pedrogaz]

Interesting. I have seen a lot if Indians in Pattaya, not the tailors, but tourists....groups of men in their 30s wandering around. 

They will change Pattaya if they become a permanent tourism group. Hindus and Muslims don't drink alcohol so this won't help the bars. They also have a bad reputation with bar girls for not paying after they have had their fun, or bringing a girl back to the room and finding 5 or 6 men there. Obviously I have no way of knowing whether the rumours a have any truth to them.

[d2b2]

3 hours ago, Dexlowe said:

I think this is a good point. My somewhat casual observation of the Indian tourists in Pattaya is that they stand around in small groups, blocking footpaths and even roads. (They absolutely refuse to get out of the way, leading to accusations of arrogance.) While they seem to be infiltrating every corner of the city, what is noticeable is that there are few to be seen in the shops, not even the 7/11s. My old Indian colleagues tell me that most of their (well-off) friends prefer to go to major western places. Thailand is actually looked down upon. So it looks like the class of Indian tourist coming to Thailand is not going to save the local economy.

Oh the irony. They both look down on each other. 

[CGW]

1 hour ago, marcusarelus said:

Link please or are we supposed to believe a random poster on Thai Visa?

Common knowledge! search yourself then no need to make silly posts disputing facts.

[OtinPattaya]

I have no doubt there are rich Indians in Thailand, but I have serious doubts whether India is going to make up for the Chinese, America, or European apathy. How many Indian restaurants do there need to be in Pattaya? 

[mac1970]

3 hours ago, AJBangkok said:

I dont know if Pattaya and Phuket are the same but Hua Hin gets huge business from the Indian wedding industry, its big money and centered on the 5 star hotels.

Most likely as I have seen none in Hua Hin (night market, shopping mals, restaurants, bars) during last 8 days here. And yes, I don't stay 5 star hotel... 

[nickmondo]

the comedy continues.

The indians will come one time, they wont return.

And, they wont spend money when they are here.

One day this country will appreciate the value of the Western Ex pats and tourists.

But will probably be too late by then......

[Pedrogaz]

3 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

Unacceptable to whom? 

 

My wife doesn't like Indians or Indian food. 

You know my wife is the same....she says doesn't like their smell. Although she doesn't like muslims either but never really gave a reason.

It sounds bigoted to my ears but what's strange is that she is a very loving, well-travelled and open minded woman and doesn't seem to harbour any other grudges or prejudices against other groupings of people, and rarely says a bad word about anyone.

[nickmondo]

10 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

You can't seem to separate business from racism. Looking after the majority of paying customers interests doesn't have to equate to my personal opinion, whether they said for racists reasons or not. It's nothing to do with being PC.

There is no law in Thailand concerning racism, as to who has to be admitted to premises.

 

One point I forgot to add: In our monthly staff meetings, the dancers in the past asked if they had to go with an Indian who wanted to bar fine them. The girls wanted to be able to refuse as they said the Indians body odour was really bad.

I didn't make that up to justify my post in case you might be going to say that, I simply forgot to mention it originally.

your point about body odour is a well known fact mate.

I once mistakingly travelled here with Jet Airlines, or whatever its called, stopping in Mumbai.

For the return trip, I paid more to change my ticket to Finnair.