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Teaching coding to Thai kids good if teachers are equipped for new role – educational economist

 

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(Photo) Dr. Kiat-anant Luankaeo, an educational economist at Thammasat University

 

Teaching of computer programming language in schools is a good idea, but schools, teachers and students must be prepared, otherwise the educational gap between privileged and under-privileged students will widened, according to Dr. Kiat-anant Luankaeo, an educational economist at Thammasat University.

 

To begin with, he asked, do the schools have the infrastructure or the staff needed to teach coding to their students?

 

Noting that the nature of under-privileged students is that they need closer attention than the privileged students, he questioned who would perform this role, adding that the Singaporean model, which the Education Ministry wants to apply in Thailand, cannot be applied in its entirety and has never been trialed here.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/teaching-coding-to-thai-kids-good-if-teachers-are-equipped-for-new-role-educational-economist/

 

 

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a Thai educational economist.  that's perfect! 


the teacher is the solution.  not reading.  not student's discussing and thinking.  not just coding up a simple "hello world!" program and then going off on your own like Woz, Zuck, Gates and Musk [who are just as famous as avid book and journal readers than as being billionaires? hello?] and a few tens of millions of my generation did in the USA.  no.  we need more better and better teachers.  and money and benefits for teachers.  that will solve the problem!

yet decentralization for instance has not been a topic since....... and which would be tons better than teaching C++ as a 3rd language and English as a 4th language.... and as for English it is mostly written English and grammar because it is a lot easier to mark up multiple choice quizzes and call them final exams and then take off for a week or two earlier..... but decentralization, yeah I know it's a tongue twister.... jeeeez... has not even been much a topic since the same weekend protests started against...... oh, that is completely unrelated.  okay, I got it.  better and better teachers. 

 

insanity is defined as repeating the same thing over and over again without any success as it is intended to play out.  but we are not any better in the west.  need an example?  it's about "fossil fuels".  not air travel and tourism which we divide by all 7,800 million of us so that it's "only 2 percent"..... but that is not how social and political things work.  but economist experts, the world over, must use numbers and charts to say what they want to say. our scientists too.  it is one planet, so we divide by all 7,800 million of us.  but that is not...... reality.  how the "real world" works.  yet if you do any serious reading on your own, you can discover what is and is not nonsense.  on your own.  and that is where the culture thing comes in, yes? 

 

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4 hours ago, Damrongsak said:

Please, teach kids basic math, logic, reasoning and abstract concepts. 

Coding can help with that if not enhance that, but teachers will have to be trained, and that will take years.  f(;;){

}  takes time to learn.

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49 minutes ago, WeekendRaider said:

a Thai educational economist.  that's perfect! 


the teacher is the solution.  not reading.  not student's discussing and thinking.  not just coding up a simple "hello world!" program and then going off on your own like Woz, Zuck, Gates and Musk [who are just as famous as avid book and journal readers than as being billionaires? hello?] and a few tens of millions of my generation did in the USA.  no.  we need more better and better teachers.  and money and benefits for teachers.  that will solve the problem!

yet decentralization for instance has not been a topic since....... and which would be tons better than teaching C++ as a 3rd language and English as a 4th language.... and as for English it is mostly written English and grammar because it is a lot easier to mark up multiple choice quizzes and call them final exams and then take off for a week or two earlier..... but decentralization, yeah I know it's a tongue twister.... jeeeez... has not even been much a topic since the same weekend protests started against...... oh, that is completely unrelated.  okay, I got it.  better and better teachers. 

 

insanity is defined as repeating the same thing over and over again without any success as it is intended to play out.  but we are not any better in the west.  need an example?  it's about "fossil fuels".  not air travel and tourism which we divide by all 7,800 million of us so that it's "only 2 percent"..... but that is not how social and political things work.  but economist experts, the world over, must use numbers and charts to say what they want to say. our scientists too.  it is one planet, so we divide by all 7,800 million of us.  but that is not...... reality.  how the "real world" works.  yet if you do any serious reading on your own, you can discover what is and is not nonsense.  on your own.  and that is where the culture thing comes in, yes? 

 

 

The most important lessons learned in Thai schools are Kreng Jai and how to graap (pay obesiance)

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26 minutes ago, justin case said:

why teach coding, when they cannot even teach descent english

EXACTLY!

Do the step that you can.

It is amazing to see incompetence leading with "progressive" teaching ideas when all the educational system is IMO one of the lowest...

The future is NOT becoming a programmer but to have communication skills! So English should be THE priority to keep Thailand on top of South East Asia.

Look, even after 40 years of top holiday destination, how little Thais are having a decent English to communicate with guests and customers...

How do we communicate in business on Global Market?

In English!

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32 minutes ago, justin case said:

why teach coding, when they cannot even teach descent english

Because there is not a 'they' and 'them'. Some, just some, Thai teachers are remarkably good at teaching coding.

 

Excluding a modern subject from the curriculum, because some older folks are still stuck in the they and them generalizations, is ridiculous of course.

 

Also, English is arguably the most boring subject in school. What do kids actually learn? And why?

 

Coding, as taught everywhere in the world, might be the incentive for kids to master this boring language. Learn by using a language.

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4 minutes ago, Pesche said:

EXACTLY!

Do the step that you can.

It is amazing to see incompetence leading with "progressive" teaching ideas when all the educational system is IMO one of the lowest...

The future is NOT becoming a programmer but to have communication skills! So English should be THE priority to keep Thailand on top of South East Asia.

Look, even after 40 years of top holiday destination, how little Thais are having a decent English to communicate with guests and customers...

How do we communicate in business on Global Market?

In English!

Communicating with machines yes!

Lets all start to understand the AI revolution that us upon us. The world will be divided in those who can and those who cannot communicate with machines.

 

Coding is the language to do so.

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I have first year kids that are illiterate, and I really mean illiterate as they don't know ABC or even the Thai alphabet... I teach in college, so that means that those students have passed primary and high school and still has not learned how to read and write!!!
So, coming with ideas like teaching coding might be great for some students, but there is really a need to take care of all students first!

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5 hours ago, LazySlipper said:

In a nutshell, no.

A few years ago the PM decided that schools had to dedicate one hour a day in after school programs at the end of the day to help the kids relax and become better students. There has never been a follow up on this, nor has it ever been implemented. 

 

Now, they want incompetent Thai teachers to become programming teachers, while they can't even use or understand English. I am always in awe of all these brilliant ideas that the top brass come up with in the MOE. 

Majority of the 'Top Brass' are ignorant and uneducated in a proper way themselves owing to the 'no fail' system and/or 'bought' status they endow themselves with !

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3 minutes ago, SoilSpoil said:

A lot of students are better than their teachers, but are taught/drilled not to speak up. 

I have two Thai Niece's who are much brighter than their teachers and both speak and understand good English.   However; they say they dare not use it in class as the 'English Teacher' cannot understand them properly so tells them to be quiet !

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"coder" was sometime in the 90's when software development was made by single lines of code. It's completely changed with the advent of libraries, freely downloadable from online repositories. These days you actually need a brain to connect the dots instead of hacking hex codes into an assembler.

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