Does your daughter plan to ride further distances? If not, the Yamaha Grand Filano ABS should be fine.

39 minutes ago, metempsychotic said:

good lord, i weigh usually between 63-65. 67 on a very bad week.

200 kg on a scooter!

Shocking indeed. But I cannot help it.

 

120kg for me and 80kg for my wife. Plus the shopping items. This whole thread is about the possibility to move that all safely on a scooter and the consensus was "Yes". From what I see in the streets this seems indeed feasible using a 300cc and exchange the shockers for something more weight supporting.

6 minutes ago, jackdd said:

Does your daughter plan to ride further distances? If not, the Yamaha Grand Filano ABS should be fine.

My daughter and myself will have a look at the Grand Filano. Thanks. Personally I think it is always good to have some storage space without having to wear a Rucksack. My wife and myself did ride a Suzuki Burgman 125 in Switzerland (when we were still slimmer as now), and this one had huge storage capacity. Absolutely suitable for shopping.

Yamaha Euro spec sheet of 292cc Xmax 300: https://cdn2.yamaha-motor.eu/prod/product-assets/2018/XMAX300/Factsheets/2018-XMAX300_en.pdf

 

27.6 horsepower (20.6 kW) at 7250 rpm, and 21.4 foot-pounds (29.0 Nm) torque at 5750 rpm.

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https://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-reviews/honda/2018-honda-forza-ar180968.html  says the 279cc Forza has  24.8 horsepower at 7,000 rpm and 20 lb-ft torque at 5,750.

14 hours ago, Damrongsak said:

Yamaha Euro spec sheet of 292cc Xmax 300: https://cdn2.yamaha-motor.eu/prod/product-assets/2018/XMAX300/Factsheets/2018-XMAX300_en.pdf

 

27.6 horsepower (20.6 kW) at 7250 rpm, and 21.4 foot-pounds (29.0 Nm) torque at 5750 rpm.

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https://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-reviews/honda/2018-honda-forza-ar180968.html  says the 279cc Forza has  24.8 horsepower at 7,000 rpm and 20 lb-ft torque at 5,750.

Thank you very much. Looks like the back suspension (there are no shockers, only a swing) cannot be exchanged for something more weight supporting. The seat height is 795 mm, I guess no chance that my wife, 148 cm tall, could ride it safely.

23 hours ago, moogradod said:

Sadly, Nmax for daughter not feasible, cannot wait for the 2020 model.

Maybe need indeed to wait for the new NMax and find some transport solution for in between. This is such a shame that the PCX does not offer ABS while even being more expensive. Generally I am always surprized with what the design teams come up. They constantly miss it to produce a bike with all desirable features (like ABS, low seating position, large storage space, max. possible power etc. etc.).

8 hours ago, moogradod said:

Thank you very much. Looks like the back suspension (there are no shockers, only a swing) cannot be exchanged for something more weight supporting. The seat height is 795 mm, I guess no chance that my wife, 148 cm tall, could ride it safely.

There are aftermarket shocks for the Xmax. Not sure about available spring rates.  https://bikerzbits.com/yss/yamaha/xmax-300-shock-absorbers/

A few days ago they announced that the old NMAX model is now also available in red, so probably it will still take a while before the new NMAX will be released