Is tourism in Thailand set to get worse before it gets better?

[HLover]

3 minutes ago, Yinn said:

No, I am the witch.

 

But caucasion welcome to thailand. Not need angle.

 

Only some guy TVF think “Thailand” not want caucasions tourist.

More than 95% normal tourist have the lovely time.

 

The sex tourist is always will be lonely. Money not buy love. They always be scam. They believe it.

 

100 million + tourist coming in the next three years. Will be busy. We prepare now. Billions baht.

95 million people will love it.

 

 

Everybody welcome Thailand. Have a good time.

Well said, except for the money and love part. ????

[rickudon]

19 minutes ago, WeekendRaider said:

air travel by commercial jet emits 285 grams of carbon for every kilometer for each passenger that "flies" thru the sky...  God [which animals can't see or smell, at all, same as with Co2..... wink wink]  only intended fowl to fly in the sky.  not the things he made in his own image. 

and it is 14 grams per kilometer traveled in a train.  285 versus 14.  so Thailand is going to bet the farm [literally, or rice paddy and pigs] on the air travel version of tourism.... not the train one.  another great decision!  probably a good one, but only for a limited time.  God has a plan.    

  

Rather high figures. Ryanair claim 66 grams per kilometre, and a Boeing 737 is claimed 108 grams. It all depends on load fact and distance travelled - longer flights tend to be more efficient. It is often more efficient to fly than drive a car on a long trip. Using a train in Thailand is the slowest way to travel! (and a limited network and schedule).

[Max69xl]

19 minutes ago, Yinn said:

No, I am the witch.

 

But caucasion welcome to thailand. Not need angle.

 

Only some guy TVF think “Thailand” not want caucasions tourist.

More than 95% normal tourist have the lovely time.

 

The sex tourist is always will be lonely. Money not buy love. They always be scam. They believe it.

 

100 million + tourist coming in the next three years. Will be busy. We prepare now. Billions baht.

95 million people will love it.

 

 

Everybody welcome Thailand. Have a good time.

100 million tourists in 3 years, that's ~20 million less than TAT predicts. Look at the numbers this year because of the strong baht. If it gets even stronger,you will not see even 80-90 million tourists in 3 years.

[Yinn]

The tourist spread more now.

 

Before just Bangkok, pattaya, phuket,

then Hua hin, then Samui, then Koh Phangan, koh Tao, then Krabi, Ko Chang, then Kaolak ๆ, also have Sukhothai, Ayutthaya, Kanchanaburi is more popular.

So many good place. 

The thai go more place also. Cheap air ticket, airasia, vietjet, nok, etc. 

 

Also other country coming. Because the economy up,up up. India, Russia and China= more than half the world population. All not more than 4-5 hour fly time. 

 

Sorry for who WANT thailand to lose tourism. Not happen. Sure. Dissapoinment.

 

Not understand why you want thailand fail so much.

 

if this graph wrong one, where is your graph? How you know the number? Because you say to each other on TVF so much you believe right?

 

 

 

 

[Yinn]

11 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

100 million +

 

11 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

100 million tourists in 3 years, that's ~20 million less than TAT predicts. 

“+” means “more than”

[baansgr]

42 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

Just another whiner! Who asked you to come here? Or, you're maybe sitting in a sofa somewhere in the UK. 

Thats the kind of attitude that is why tourism is in demise in Thailand. TAT actually ask tourists to come here with massive advertising campaigns around the world...same as any other countries tourism board. However holidays should be relaxing in a clean safe friendly welcoming environment

[baansgr]

1 hour ago, HLover said:

Maybe your just a mark?

There in lies the problem....tourists are looked upon as a "mark"....of course each country seeks the tourist $ but most appreciate and respect that....seriously, tell me what does Thailand have to offer as a tourist destination.......we all know why it became popular but leave that aside...it offers nothing to anyone

[cmsally]

22 minutes ago, Yinn said:

 

“+” means “more than”

How many years of experience do you have in the tourism industry Yinn ??

[Yinn]

21 minutes ago, baansgr said:

Thats the kind of attitude that is why tourism is in demise in Thailand. TAT actually ask tourists to come here with massive advertising campaigns around the world...same as any other countries tourism board. However holidays should be relaxing in a clean safe friendly welcoming environment

 

 

So good. 

[Yinn]

1 hour ago, Fex Bluse said:

He may already work for the government. 

It's clear there are few cheerleaders on the forum.

You stay Fex.

5555555

 

 

[Creasy]

Yinn. The Hub of Graphs

[cmsally]

A few TAT videos and graphs are hardly good evidence for increasing tourism.

In fact I don't think tourism is much of a consideration in the scheme of things. Just consider the fact that Chinese pay for a 30yr lease , then pay rent on top of that and then building costs on top of that. You seriously think they can recuperate their money within 30 years. Looks more like a way to get around the financial restrictions on cash transfers from mainland China. It looks more like tourists are just a pawn in the game .

The problem for the Thais is when the Chinese don't find them useful any more or the whole Chinese system crashes.

[Kwasaki]

3 hours ago, Mitkof Island said:

Yea with menu prices ten times more than what Thais pay. Sukhothai has turned into just another over rated tourist slum. I won,t be returning.

Well there ya go and the same goes everyone else just check on your mobile phone and follow that instead of asking people but that is too difficult.

New Sukhothai is rubbish in my experience time has destroyed it, Old Sukhothai is different but you can still end up in a rubbish place if you don't ask local people, it is being ruined by tourism as well. 

 

If only Thai people came here and no tourists come here that would be great and hopefully things will be nice again like 10 years ago or so.

[Orton Rd]

2 hours ago, HLover said:

Maybe your just a mark?

That's no excuse is it?

[Rimmer]

Off topic post attempting to hijack the topic has been removed

[Yinn]

12 minutes ago, cmsally said:

A few TAT videos and graphs are hardly good evidence for increasing tourism.

Very beautiful advitesement, win the prize.

make me want to travel thailand more.

you like it? 

 

 

12 minutes ago, cmsally said:

Just consider the fact that Chinese pay for a 30yr lease ,

Good.

12 minutes ago, cmsally said:

then pay rent on top of that

Very good.

12 minutes ago, cmsally said:

 

and then building costs on top of that

Wonderful!! Good deal.

 

 

12 minutes ago, cmsally said:

You seriously think they can recuperate their money within 30 years.

Up to them. I not care. 

Then we get the free building!

 

 

12 minutes ago, cmsally said:

 

The problem for the Thais is when the Chinese don't find them useful any more or the whole Chinese system crashes.

If not use we get the money AND the building! 

 

Not think Chinese system will crash. Chinese are very clever financial.

 

with the normal rent place, only about 3-6% return.

but if holiday rent, it 10-25%. 

If 10% for 30 year, will be ok.

[Orton Rd]

21 minutes ago, cmsally said:

A few TAT videos and graphs are hardly good evidence for increasing tourism.

In fact I don't think tourism is much of a consideration in the scheme of things. Just consider the fact that Chinese pay for a 30yr lease , then pay rent on top of that and then building costs on top of that. You seriously think they can recuperate their money within 30 years. Looks more like a way to get around the financial restrictions on cash transfers from mainland China. It looks more like tourists are just a pawn in the game .

The problem for the Thais is when the Chinese don't find them useful any more or the whole Chinese system crashes.

The Thai/Chinese are the backbone of the Thai economy, they know how to do business, without them the country would be worse than Myanmar 20 years ago. The new Chinese immigrants somehow get around immigration and right to buy housing obstacles, they might be obnoxious but the Chinese know how to get things done and how to circumvent the bureaucratic idiocy here.

[Yinn]

Just now, Orton Rd said:

The Thai/Chinese are the backbone of the Thai economy, they know how to do business, without them the country would be worse than Myanmar 20 years ago. The new Chinese immigrants somehow get around immigration and right to buy housing obstacles, they might be obnoxious but the Chinese know how to get things done and how to circumvent the bureaucratic idiocy here.

Welcome back Orton!

[Orton Rd]

Thank you, UK mai sanuk, mai mee pleng Thai!

[cmsally]

8 minutes ago, Yinn said:

Very beautiful advitesement, win the prize.

make me want to travel thailand more.

you like it? 

 

 

Good.

Very good.

Wonderful!! Good deal.

 

 

Up to them. I not care. 

Then we get the free building!

 

 

If not use we get the money AND the building! 

 

Not think Chinese system will crash. Chinese are very clever financial.

 

with the normal rent place, only about 3-6% return.

but if holiday rent, it 10-25%. 

If 10% for 30 year, will be ok.

The whole propping up of the economy through Chinese investment and money channeling is looking rather similar to the Canadian scenario; there are many articles on how money was laundered through Vancouver real estate.

It is a bit sad that you do not care and can only see the dollar signs. Unfortunately that reflects many peoples attitudes and is why many places have become less than desirable to visit or live in.

[kingofthemountain]

2 hours ago, Yinn said:

More than 95% normal tourist have the lovely time.

That's why we call it ''happy ending''

[kingdong]

31 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

The Thai/Chinese are the backbone of the Thai economy, they know how to do business, without them the country would be worse than Myanmar 20 years ago. The new Chinese immigrants somehow get around immigration and right to buy housing obstacles, they might be obnoxious but the Chinese know how to get things done and how to circumvent the bureaucratic idiocy here.

Like the Russians used to 10 years ago,where are they now?

[kingdong]

6 hours ago, CGW said:

- they now have one of the strongest currency's in the world - 

Like they did in 1997?

[Max69xl]

2 hours ago, Yinn said:

 

“+” means “more than”

Then the numbers will be even worse in 3 years. Get it? 

[HLover]

1 hour ago, Orton Rd said:

That's no excuse is it?

Not an excuse, just a possible reason.

[HLover]

2 hours ago, baansgr said:

what does Thailand have to offer as a tourist destination

And what is that?

[Max69xl]

2 hours ago, cmsally said:

How many years of experience do you have in the tourism industry Yinn ??

In my opinion no clue what so ever if he/she believs what TAT predicts. 

[CharlieH]

Off topic posts and replies removed.

 

Stay on topic please.

[Destiny1990]

Seems the plan to boost tourism is : To Hope that they will come..

[ivor bigun]

Although we live on the outskirts of Pattaya and drive in often ,for the first time in ages we walked along beach road,i was suprised at how few tourists were actually around, the main ones were just a group of Chinese going into a Chinese restaurant,but none of the usual throng of westerners. Weny into Mikes ,it was deserted.

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