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Gulf War veteran, 55, was killed by a single punch from a bouncer in Thailand who claimed he tried to leave go-go bar without paying his bill


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1 hour ago, SymS said:

I think one of the problem is they lure customers saying it's free to look, and then charge them when they leave even if they did not order anything. Saw a YouTube video about this a while ago.

True

but now with internet the words spread and you can't do it for longtime

the Mandarin (The gogo in the case) is closed since a while and half of the

gogo of walking street are closed or for rent\sale.

In the same time the Windmill a gogo, not even on the main street

is full everyday, the farang management do an excellent job here and

nobody is ripped off and everybody is more than happy here. Win\win

and long term vision.

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13 minutes ago, Huckenfell said:

This  shows just how corrupt the Thai judiciary are. The video clearly shows the victim trying to get way, so how can the brutal bouncer claim "self defense"    The PM needs to take these events into more consideration if he wants  tourists to feel safe, as it is clearly not the case at the present.

Shows nothing of the sort. Shows him backing off then throwing a punch when confronted about his bill.

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a go go bar or karoki bar is well known for overprice drinks and bills.happens everywhere a few cases in cnx a few yrs ago.maybe he did not know  and the wrong bar too.who knows the end results  was not good for him.i happens in instanbul too,many years ago similar tricks  and huge bill ,not pay a couple of heavy men force u to pay then they go to there embassy and complain about the night before.first time tourist lost they shirt and i saw the bars  knew the score never went in when i lived there

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12 hours ago, sanemax said:

Yes it is .

Try looking at the news from other countries and you will see similar things happening 

A few years back when I was over in Glasgow, four Eastern Europeans were walking in the opposite direction towards me. and all were shouting at me in their own language, I move away to the outside of the pavement to let them pass.

 

One made a move towards me quickly shouting violently, I was watching the situation, and very quickly, I ran round him and just kept running, luckily I was a fast runner, but nothing like that has ever happened to me in Thailand.

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14 hours ago, donnacha said:

That he tried calling 911 just minutes before the attack suggests that he was the victim of a billing scam. As certain parts of their tourism industry collapse, desperate bars seem to be resorting to this stuff more frequently, and asking for evermore ridiculous amounts.

These thugs are a tiny minority that ruin it for the vast majority of decent people. Sadly, in Thailand, the entire society is structured along those lines too.

I no longer expect any common sense from the authorities in Thailand, but a smart country that did not take its tourism industry for granted would crack down hard on this stuff. Each of these reports in the victims' home countries sends a deeply negative message about Thailand, reversing millions of dollars of "Amazing Thailand" marketing. Look at that photo, he looks like a decent, happily married guy and is a veteran to boot. This story, including the shameful Thai court verdict, will run in almost every American newspaper and news channel, ten of millions of people will hear about this. These incidents are expensive for Thailand.

On entry, I would give every tourist a welcome card containing 24hr emergency numbers manned by competent English / Mandarin / Korean speakers. Hell, I would even offer an "Emergency Button" app that would instantly send their location to the local police.


 

That an ex military guy throws a punch in the air without being close to hitting someone, suggest to me he was very very drunk.

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13 hours ago, CNXexpat said:

I lived for 50 years in Hamburg, where the famous St. Pauli district and the Reeperbahn is. Many normal bars and clubs and also a red light district. I have NEVER EVER heard about a case like that. NEVER. But I heard many times that it happens in Thailand. 

I lived in the red light area in Amsterdam and it happens all the time. Seen enough videos from the UK where it happens too.

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14 minutes ago, raccos21 said:

Damn this place is really gone crazy.

The place is as usual, and it's what you do with it

i come in Pattaya since 20 years, i live here full time since 2 years

and never had a problem with a fight. I have just been lucky?

The only few fights i have seen it was drunks foreigners looking for troubles.

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4 hours ago, Momofarang said:

My CV looks a little bit like that, so I have now to accept that any pack of uncivilized, uneducated, drugged up Thai thug  is entitled to beat me to death?

Where is your proof the bouncer was drugged up? You can clearly see from the missed punch of the westerner he was drunk like a skunk.

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1 hour ago, DannyCarlton said:

He wasn't knocked out because of the punch, hardly connected. He fell over and banged his head hard on the ground due to the bouncer carrering into him and him being drunk.

How did hitting the back of his head which is the part of it that hit the ground when he fell account for the damage to the right frontal lobe which is the injury that the coroner claimed to have killed him.

 

You actually see a blow delivered by the Thai bouncer connecting with the front part of his head. The right frontal lobe is situated at the front of the head.

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