What would you say if your condo management company...

[zappalot]

What would you say if your condo management company would announce an exchange of light tubes like this (they did not exchange any for about half a year, after complaints mounting up they try to show some action):

 

A) Good work

B) Kick them (incl. the proud on this action committee) out   (would be my choice, but yeah, I am just a farang and 95% of the Thai co-owners do not care,  no matter how bad the work)

C) This is Thailand

[Gumballl]

Why are they not using LED lights?

 

Why not do the job yourself? Stop whining.

[zappalot]

2 minutes ago, Gumballl said:

Why are they not using LED lights?

 

Why not do the job yourself? Stop whining.

They call the police if you start fixing jobs by yourself... Stop giving stupid advice...

[zappalot]

And: the problem is not the light tubes (@Gumball: how do you see they are not LED???). They last a few days, weeks if lucky. Then they are off again. The problem is the wiring or the fixture. But these morons do not understand this...

[richard_smith237]

5 minutes ago, zappalot said:

8 minutes ago, Gumballl said:

Why are they not using LED lights?

 

Why not do the job yourself? Stop whining.

They call the police if you start fixing jobs by yourself... Stop giving stupid advice...

 

Your condo comity would call the Police on you for changing a light bulb ????

[Ventenio]

I would ask, "read ThaiVisa, everyone knows not to buy a condo in Thailand."  enjoy LOS, thanks for playing and paying

[zappalot]

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Your condo comity would call the Police on you for changing a light bulb ????

Since the right thing is not to exchange the light bulb but to search the faulty part in the system they would. When we started to fix/check other parts of the building they did. We were in luck to turn down the CCTV cameras first so they catched us turning down the CCTV camera but not what we actually did in the particular floor. So to help yourself is a bad advice in our building...

[zappalot]

3 minutes ago, Ventenio said:

I would ask, "read ThaiVisa, everyone knows not to buy a condo in Thailand."  enjoy LOS, thanks for playing and paying

We paid 1.8 Mln for 90 m2, rent it out for in avg. 20,000/month plus utilities, 8 years brought us back about 80% of the investment, still have the apartment, so yeah...

[Ron jeremy]

53 minutes ago, zappalot said:

We paid 1.8 Mln for 90 m2, rent it out for in avg. 20,000/month plus utilities, 8 years brought us back about 80% of the investment, still have the apartment, so yeah...

Sounds like yet another great building! Thai quality for sure! Can't even get the lights to work! With the 100,000 for sale at the moment, should be no problem selling this gem! Look at the condos for sale on soi arunthai, hundreds and hundreds of units unoccupied, have been for years, can't begin to give them away, but any owner will tell you what a great investment they made.

just like going to a casino, nobody has ever lost!

[Pravda]

Looks like a super loso building from the pictures you posted. You get what you pay for. Room probably under 1 million. 

[zappalot]

11 minutes ago, Ron jeremy said:

Sounds like yet another great building! Thai quality for sure! Can't even get the lights to work! With the 100,000 for sale at the moment, should be no problem selling this gem! Look at the condos for sale on soi arunthai, hundreds and hundreds of units unoccupied, have been for years, can't begin to give them away, but any owner will tell you what a great investment they made.

just like going to a casino, nobody has ever lost!

Since we rent out with airbnb we can show a nice record, I guess your mentioned soi arunthai condos can mostly NOT show a 8 year record of steady 10% ROI/year

Edited November 29, 2019 by zappalot

[Ron jeremy]

2 minutes ago, zappalot said:

Since we rent out with airbnb we can show a nice record, I guess your mentioned soi arunthai can mostly NOT show a 8 year record of steady 10% ROI/year

Show us the records, we're waiting h, how can the renters find the condo when the lights don't work?

do u supply flashlights to the guests?

i can imagine the reviews of the place. ????????????????????????????????

Edited November 29, 2019 by Ron jeremy

[zappalot]

1 minute ago, Ron jeremy said:

Show us the records, we're waiting 

how much do you pay me to get them together? I certainly do not waste my time, you know. Since we do not intend to sell (new monorail beside the building is under construction and to open in 2 years) I do not care what people think or what they believe  ????

[Ron jeremy]

4 minutes ago, zappalot said:

how much do you pay me to get them together? I certainly do not waste my time, you know. Since we do not intend to sell (new monorail beside the building is under construction and to open in 2 years) I do not care what people think or what they believe  ????

Is your condo on the dark Side?????????????????

beside the monorail, that will bring in the Chinese and Indians that are going to save pattaya, and rent your condo! Good luck with your Thai investment.

[AlexRich]

What exactly is your complaint? It’s not that clear to be honest. If the lighting is off replacing the bulbs make sense?

[zappalot]

59 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

What exactly is your complaint? It’s not that clear to be honest. If the lighting is off replacing the bulbs make sense?

Reading helps.

As explained before the problem are not the bulbs. They will be off again within a week or so. After 25 years it seems that some problems with the cables or the light fixture.

 

So it does not make sense at all to exchange A) if the problem is actually B)

 

The management is hiring, they are searching exactly people like you... 555

[Pravda]

Looks exactly like something Chinese or Indian would buy.... for half a price what you paid for.

 

So, 10% return on investment for a subpar 1 million baht Condo is 100,000 baht a year? It's okay I guess if you are bored pensioner on high income and have nothing else to do.

 

 

[zappalot]

8 minutes ago, Pravda said:

Looks exactly like something Chinese or Indian would buy.... for half a price what you paid for.

 

So, 10% return on investment for a subpar 1 million baht Condo is 100,000 baht a year? It's okay I guess if you are bored pensioner on high income and have nothing else to do.

 

 

As stated before: reading helps. Just commenting without reading through the facts of the posts does not really make sense.

And how do you know how the building looks if you have not seen any pictures of it? 

 

There are lots of condominium buildings in Bangkok with a high price tag, looking good at first sight. But if you look around you even find in the hi-so buildings plenty of problems no one cares about. So to say if you buy cheap you get problems and if you buy expensive you won't is utmost nonsense.

[Lacessit]

3 hours ago, zappalot said:

We paid 1.8 Mln for 90 m2, rent it out for in avg. 20,000/month plus utilities, 8 years brought us back about 80% of the investment, still have the apartment, so yeah...

I have lost count of the number of posters who claim to have made vast sums on capital gains and rental returns on condos in Pattaya and Bangkok. Many seem to be making fortunes from behind a keyboard.

Funny we don't hear about defaulting tenants, vacancy periods and trashed apartments from these financial geniuses. Or condos that take years to liquidate.

There does seem to be a disconnect between such acumen, and bitching about maintenance of lighting systems.

[Pravda]

31 minutes ago, zappalot said:

As stated before: reading helps. Just commenting without reading through the facts of the posts does not really make sense.

And how do you know how the building looks if you have not seen any pictures of it? 

 

There are lots of condominium buildings in Bangkok with a high price tag, looking good at first sight. But if you look around you even find in the hi-so buildings plenty of problems no one cares about. So to say if you buy cheap you get problems and if you buy expensive you won't is utmost nonsense.

 

Yes. And? 

[chickenslegs]

Q: How many condo board meetings does it take to get a light bulb changed?

A: This topic was resumed from last month's meeting, but is incomplete pending resolution of some action items. It will be continued at the next meeting...

[zappalot]

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I have lost count of the number of posters who claim to have made vast sums on capital gains and rental returns on condos in Pattaya and Bangkok. Many seem to be making fortunes from behind a keyboard.

Funny we don't hear about defaulting tenants, vacancy periods and trashed apartments from these financial geniuses. Or condos that take years to liquidate.

There does seem to be a disconnect between such acumen, and bitching about maintenance of lighting systems.

With airbnb guests pay upfront - there is no defaulting

With airbnb there is an insurance - never, with 5 apartments in this building, needed it - no trashed apartment (yet)

Yes a few days between guests going and the next coming - does not mean the average income is going down since the actual rent is a bit higher than 20,000...

20,000 a fortune? OMG, i pitty you ????

[zappalot]

7 minutes ago, Pravda said:

 

Yes. And? 

better keeping quiet instead of posting sth. irrelevant to the actual thread. Bored?

Edited November 29, 2019 by zappalot

[zappalot]

let me show this collage, a modern and bright 45 m2 studio apartment in a 30th floor with fantastic view, 1 mln. Baht (+tax at LD and 100,000 Baht to renovate it): no problem at all to get at least 12,000 Baht/mth. via airbnb, never more then 4 or 5 days between at least 30 day stays...

If you can not believe that you can find guests for such an apartment then good you are not in the real estate business...

[Gumballl]

6 hours ago, zappalot said:

They call the police if you start fixing jobs by yourself... Stop giving stupid advice...

Buffalo dung!

Edited November 29, 2019 by Gumballl

[Lacessit]

9 hours ago, zappalot said:

With airbnb guests pay upfront - there is no defaulting

With airbnb there is an insurance - never, with 5 apartments in this building, needed it - no trashed apartment (yet)

Yes a few days between guests going and the next coming - does not mean the average income is going down since the actual rent is a bit higher than 20,000...

20,000 a fortune? OMG, i pitty you ????

I was referring to the nebulous capital gain, not the rent. However, if you want to twist what I said to imply I am a pauper, so be it. 80% of my assets are not in Thailand.

I'm wondering what insurance you have against being hauled off to much less salubrious accommodation, along with cockroach sandwiches. Because AFAIK airbnb is illegal in Thailand.

[zappalot]

36 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

 not the Because AFAIK airbnb is illegal in Thailand.

You should urgently check your sources of information - to much fake news out there...

 

Airbnb legal/illegal	Stay < 30 days	Stay > 29 days
Condo	Illegal	Legal
House with 4 or less bed rooms	Legal	Legal

[Lacessit]

22 hours ago, zappalot said:

You should urgently check your sources of information - to much fake news out there...

 

Airbnb legal/illegal	Stay < 30 days	Stay > 29 days
Condo	Illegal	Legal
House with 4 or less bed rooms	Legal	Legal

You did say in a former post you were referring to apartments. Post#24. Excuse me if I am confused by your frame of reference. Although you are also saying stays are never less than 30 days, which IMO is not the average for an airbnb customer.

[richard_smith237]

On 11/29/2019 at 8:06 PM, zappalot said:

I do not care what people think or what they believe  ????

 

 

On 11/29/2019 at 5:52 PM, zappalot said:

What would you say if your condo management company....

 

Au contraire Rodney..... Asking others what they would say most definitely implies you do care what others think and believe !!!

[1FinickyOne]

On 11/29/2019 at 6:44 PM, Ventenio said:

I would ask, "read ThaiVisa, everyone knows not to buy a condo in Thailand."  enjoy LOS, thanks for playing and paying

just a small amt of due dilligence will yield information on which is a good and well managed building... or you can blame an entire nation.