Customers in Pattaya’s famous bars and nightclubs down a whopping 40%

[Mark mark]

“The days of Europeans visiting Pattaya in large numbers are over”, Mr Damrongkiet said.

 

… Yes, things are Changing and Re Bars in Thailand, probably for a long time now, like well since I first Started Visiting them in Cowboy, back in the 80's .... …  Like I think that it has been slowly changing down Gears, re Bars since then. … Like first there was the final acceptance of the REAL existence of HIV Aids .... and well the whole tourist Society has been slowly Changing also ! ... Like bars have been going down, (And putting their Prices UP !!! ???) …. but beer Gardens, which are Less Claustrophobic … are Coming up !!! … Like You like Sex ! but not Alcohol, Noise and smoke ? Well go to a beer Garden. Or well even take a look for Nice Girls, reading news Papers, … in the dark, outside of Robinsons or other Classy Places ! ??? … and Cut with the chase, and probably save yourself, … and the Woman !!! a LOT OF money !!!

 

And then there is the Danger of Alcohlism, which well, takes Hundreds and HUNDREDS of men down, from ALL races in this Country I think. .... Well probably Thousands !!! ... But well that is another story, ... Right ... re why people are not going to"Bars" any more ! ? ...

 

 

… Like at risk of being Pulled d/t Off Topic, I can tell you that in the 80's the Clock tower Square, in That really Great Multi Cultural, and very Interesting … AND ! Friendly Place, Melaka on the Straits, Just South West of KL, in their main square, the Clock tower Square, back in the 80's ... there would have been 2 to 300 White Foreigners, on any day, and sometimes even more !... about 10 Asian tourists, ... and about 150 Malays trying to give them rickshaw rides, or sell them something !!!

 

NOW, ... NOW !!! … There would be about 300 Mainland, and other Chinese, … and they DO, do it in Shifts !!! … Like the tourist buses that take them there, have their parking up areas !!! all over the Center of the town !!! ... and maybe 5 White western Tourists !!!  … If you are Lucky ? …. But still the same 150 Malays, …  trying to sell them something !!! Like REAL Tourism ??? … Like, things have Changed ? … And am I upset as I walk past every day when I am there, ... NO, it's their Turn !!! Right. (Along with the Russians ! ??? Right ?) 

[Pattaya46]

6 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Customers in Pattaya’s famous bars and nightclubs down a whopping 40% //

But of course the article doesn't give any name of these places... 

 

This night it would have just be impossible to add 67% people

in places like Insomnia Disco who was nearly at its maximum capacity !

 

Looks like another BS article with an agenda that I can't understand... 

[atyclb]

bar patronage is down 40% but the business already compensated that by by increasing the average bargirl weight by 40%

[geisha]

Everywhere is dead here, the malls, massage , restaurants , bars.

only the markets are doing well, especially the night market at jomtien, tho the stalls close about 10 pm. That said, there were 15 tour buses parked on jomtien second road this morning ,after Rompo . Maybe they’re parking here instead of Pattaya ???

[Thian]

4 hours ago, phantomfiddler said:

The mathematical formula is quite simple. The number of paying Farang customers wishing to come here to spend money on the nightlife scene will be inversely proportional to the number of Indian groups roaming the streets looking for prey. I already know of condo pools where Farangs no longer use their swimming pool due to "Asians" washing their underwear in said pools with a bar of soap, I guess a cleaner substitute for the Ganges. And it,s going to get worse ????

That's the same as western girls wearing bikini all day and swim with it back in the hotel....????

[Benmart]

5 hours ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

The death knell of Pattaya was promoting it as a family resort; high profile raids by police and army in places such a WS; and the Thai Tourist Authority getting involved.  It is noticeable that petty crime has risen since the army take over.

Crime statistics seem to be a hidden topic hereabouts. Does the RTP even publish an annual or semi-annual crime statistics report for the public? I wonder if the RTP has a Uniform Crime Reporting System or Crime Analysis Program at the local level. Has anyone ever seem a police patrol district map in the "news"? Seemingly,  no dedicated patrol units; seemingly, no motorized traffic units; seemingly, no radar units and no speed limits that are enforced from years of driving here. The "seemingly" list goes on and on.

[tabarin]

1 hour ago, looking for LIFE insurance said:

Not Pattaya but Bangkok yesterday.  Sitting in traffic 13:00 on Sukhumvit with Soi 22 on my left hand side.

I witnessed 2 police stop a tourist walking down the sidewalk to check his passport.  finished with him, they turned around and stop 2 tourist on a scooter and frisked them down.

I not know if pattaya is the same but if I go on vacation to a country and they want to arbitrarily stop & frisk me, I will never return.

Thats not the vibe I want when I go on vacation.

Would be very unusual to happen in Pattaya but it is really normal for Thong lor police to do these days. The worst area imo (thong lor police area).
I would not want that vibe during a holiday or normal life, one of the reasons I left Bangkok 2 years ago (they once even tried to put drugs in my cigaret pack + stole 2k baht from my wallet during the search).

[jacko45k]

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Who is John Nash? Did I miss something?

A US Economist and Mathematician who won a Nobel prize, portrayed in the film 'A Beautiful Mind'

[NoshowJones]

5 hours ago, notasmartassknowitallfarag said:

“You reap what you sow”

 

All those western tourists you took for granted with shocking service, hand out expectations, price increases, assults, greediness, infatuation with Chinese tourists and your governments decision to not devalue the baht have lead to this. 

You missed out visa issues like immigration making it so hard for the under fifties to stay here in the longer term etc.

[yogi100]

6 hours ago, Fancyzancy said:

Any discounts on hotel rooms ? NO!!!

They should start there.

As well as the pretties shouldn't turn down older Farang.  Were the bread and butter!!!

They certainly were. Not any more.

[Franko666]

Yep, Chinese and Indian visitors up, Euro and Aussie visitors down, there’s the answer right there.

However the upside is Beach Road pros are booming.

[NoshowJones]

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Years ago, many Western tourists came here, and were willing to spend hundreds of thousands of baht, while on vacation here. Also, there were tens, if not hundreds of thousands of ex-pats, many of whom spent 100,000 baht or more per month. Where did all that revenue go? Why are those people gone, baby gone? Who, or what drove them out? 

 

The authorities here have only themselves to blame, for the massive collapse of the tourism market. I am not referring to the tens of millions who fill up the airports, and clog the streets, but bring little in the way of revenue. But rather middle class tourists, and wealthy tourists who used to frequent this nation, and have not come back for a dozen valid reasons. Talk about biting off the hand that feeds you. 

 

 

"Talk about biting off the hand that feeds you". Yes, Thailand is certainly a third country run by people with a third world mentality.

[30la]

6 hours ago, rooster59 said:

 

Mr Damrongkiet said there are 40 percent less tourists visiting such venues compared to the same period last year.

Don't take me seriously please, I'm just trying to do a bit of irony, TAT is constantly communicating growing numbers ...
Well, this is clear, Pattaya is a 1st class destination for families who certainly do not visit the nightlife!
Maybe it's time for you to adapt, make rides, bumper cars and other attractions for children!
40% are also missing customers to all other businesses!

[yogi100]

5 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

Prayuth said 4 years ago that the red light image on Thailand would be changed....hence the "family resort" comments....seems to be working!

But not quite in the way he expected it to.

[NoshowJones]

4 hours ago, Yinn said:

up to them right? 

 

You go do it. 

Maybe a lot of the older farang should do more about their appearance, slimming down a bit and not covering themselves in tattoos, also be more mindful about what they wear when dating Thai girls.

[SupermarineS6B]

Ooooh, i wonder why ?   I think a few months on the assault course for the whole of immigration should be a good start.....  Couldn't run a bath.........

[NoshowJones]

4 hours ago, mikebell said:

I'm 77 and never been turned down - of course I am a hansum man.

Bet you have a thick wallet. ????

[spidermike007]

6 minutes ago, 30la said:

Don't take me seriously please, I'm just trying to do a bit of irony, TAT is constantly communicating growing numbers ...
Well, this is clear, Pattaya is a 1st class destination for families who certainly do not visit the nightlife!
Maybe it's time for you to adapt, make rides, bumper cars and other attractions for children!
40% are also missing customers to all other businesses!

Pattaya has a variety of attractions for the family. It is a huge city and the three blocks lining the beach in Central Pattaya represents a tiny fraction of the city. Pattaya has a few tracks for carting that are outstanding. All levels. Tennis. Bowling. Movie theaters. Sailing. Alot for the kids to do. 

 

This drop in tourism has little to do with adult entertainment. It is about 10-20 enormous blunders the government and the hapless immigration authorities have made, and it is too late to fix that. Gone baby gone. 

[DannyCarlton]

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

t is about 10-20 enormous blunders the government and the hapless immigration authorities have made

Name one.

[Caine]

6 hours ago, notasmartassknowitallfarag said:

“You reap what you sow”

 

All those western tourists you took for granted with shocking service, hand out expectations, price increases, assults, greediness, infatuation with Chinese tourists and your governments decision to not devalue the baht have lead to this. 

Plus the nightmare of trying to get a suitable visa. Rumour has it they're closing the consultants in the UK. If that comes to fruition they can kiss my butt goodbye, after 20 years wintering here and spending serious money. Thailand not the only country where the sun shines.

[Chongalulu]

2 hours ago, GeorgeCross said:

3 hours ago, Leaver said:

Sounds like now is the best time to buy a cheap bar.  ????????

 

well an investor would say "only buy when its cheap.."

 

but he'd also say "and the overall trend is up"

The other adage when you buy what is dropping and you think cheap is to 'catch a falling knife'. 

[Baerboxer]

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Years ago, many Western tourists came here, and were willing to spend hundreds of thousands of baht, while on vacation here. Also, there were tens, if not hundreds of thousands of ex-pats, many of whom spent 100,000 baht or more per month. Where did all that revenue go? Why are those people gone, baby gone? Who, or what drove them out? 

 

The authorities here have only themselves to blame, for the massive collapse of the tourism market. I am not referring to the tens of millions who fill up the airports, and clog the streets, but bring little in the way of revenue. But rather middle class tourists, and wealthy tourists who used to frequent this nation, and have not come back for a dozen valid reasons. Talk about biting off the hand that feeds you. 

 

 

 

They just can't and/or won't see it and admit it.

 

That would be a massive loss of face. So best to blame the world economy or farangs being stupid and not appreciating they have to pay more and more and more. 

 

Good look with Indians. Most countries don't go out of their way to welcome Indian tourists, for very good reasons.

[spidermike007]

3 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Name one.

Huh? Are you serious? How about the two year campaign Big Joke waged against foreigners? How about little Ouds continued campaign of hatred and ignorance? How about the administrations unwillingness to tackle public safety, traffic safety, air quality, scamming, corruption, visa policy, etc. I could go on for days. You must be baiting me. You cannot possibly be serious. 

[phuketlive]

What a surprise, strong baht but they dont change their prices...

[TPI]

6 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

"...As well as the pretties shouldn't turn down older Farang.  Were the bread and butter!!!"

 

Actually, you aren't the bread and butter.

 

You are the lard...

 

 

Cruel cruel you too will get old?

[NoshowJones]

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Who is John Nash? Did I miss something?

Is he not a Reggae "music" singer from the sixties?

[Garbol56]

5 hours ago, starky said:

Amazingly even though exaggerated TAT tourists numbers nor Thai tourism itself depends on the washed desperates or cheap Charlie looky- loos that congregate in a 2 bit over rated brothel town. 

And your point is?????

[Chivas]

No one should be suprised. Great swathes of Pattaya deserted by midnight in November. Most quiet I've ever seen it. The Thais have cooked the Golden Goose.

There is sadly no recovery from this. The last 12 months people have been relocating and visiting many for the first time Cambodia, Vietnam and Philippines (me first time shortly)

There is nothing left in Pattaya. If 25 years ago it rated 10/10 in value fun entertainment smiles than today is 2/10 and one of those points relates to hot weather year around

Its over......

[aspenbkk]

im usually in pattaya now but i wondered my landlady there in the past had asked me for to leave a deposit of 13000 baht this time but i think  that was in case i did not get in the country because i had been there 4 times this year already and i gather she would keep the money if i was refused entry. After seeing people on here being refused  i decided to go to the philippines and vietnam to spend my money and both were full of many whites chinese some indians not the usual you see in pattaya holding hands walking spending nothing . i spent far less in both drinking and eating everyday like i did in pattaya and bkk enjoying my self feeling at ease not worrying about being scammed in bars or by women , philippines is better than it was 5 years ago the guys drug policies has cleaned up the streets or get shot so they have disappeared and i honestly did not see

1 problem while here and they chinese were not like in pattaya everywhere . So now plenty other places to go 

as pattaya has sunk 40% down that shows what white people have said we spend the money in bars and restos not chinese or indians or russians i have been going there 20 years and saw how it was going over the last 3 years so no surprise and it is saying it is getting worse so its up to the thais to tackle their goverment about tourist issues now .  

[NoshowJones]

3 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

A large Leo on Soi Buakhao is 70 baht, most bars sell only small beers

So that will be a small Leo for 35 Baht? ????