Frenchman who allegedly locked Thai workers in cage accused of donations scam

[gamesgplayemail]

On 12/24/2019 at 10:25 AM, darksidedog said:

Marvelous Thailand. If your first accusation against a farang has no merit, just keep throwing the mud. There is so much stupidity in this. Prosecuted for euthanising dogs with rabies? What should he do? Kick them out on the street to infect others?

If people want to donate and he has been looking after hundreds of dogs with the money, I see no problem.

 

Thank you for being the only one with a brain here !

 

 

[Redline]

11 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Did you have a work permit and was there an official foundation?

At the time it was through Chiang Mai University, but they later shut the program down 

[gamesgplayemail]

17 hours ago, DennisE said:

What is the name of the Facebook page? I can’t find it. Anyone know how many dogs as well? I’m only two hours away and I’m hearing that the shelter might be vacant still with several dogs in it who will starve if no one helps. If anyone at least knows the name of the Facebook page please let me know or private message me. I’m seriously considering helping but I need to gather a little more information first. I’m trying to see if I can put a plan together for helping at least in the short term. 

https://thesoundofanimals.com/

https://www.facebook.com/thesoundofanimals/

https://www.facebook.com/groups/363288774041914/

 

 

 

 

[gamesgplayemail]

15 hours ago, DennisE said:

That might be the case there’s obviously something wrong one way or the other. But if I know there’s a kennel full of dogs two hours away from me who could be potentially starving I feel a little bit of an obligation to help but according to the animal whistle blower organization they have it covered. We go out there in that area occasionally so we still might check it out. 

 

Why do you keep talking ? Just go ! you are 2 hours away from the shelter !!!

 

 

[DennisE]

18 minutes ago, gamesgplayemail said:

 

Why do you keep talking ? Just go ! you are 2 hours away from the shelter !!!

 

 

Well I actually was going to and before doing so I was going to collect more information about what’s currently going on out there which I also did by talking to the people who are on the ground out there involved and apparently they do have the dogs covered for now. So it’s not necessary they aren’t starving as people claimed they were. 

[DennisE]

But they are going to need help eventually because I’m sure after all this the donations are probably gonna dry up. I wouldn’t donate money to them after this came out which unfortunately no one knows if there’s any truth to it. Usually the truth is somewhere in the middle in situations like this. I was just concerned about the dogs. 

Edited December 25, 2019 by DennisE

[DennisE]

30 minutes ago, gamesgplayemail said:

https://thesoundofanimals.com/

https://www.facebook.com/thesoundofanimals/

https://www.facebook.com/groups/363288774041914/

 

 

 

 

Yes I know I got all their information last night thanks. I already spoke to the people who are out there on the ground and apparently they have it covered at least for the short term. I saw they posted that letter this morning on Facebook. 

Edited December 25, 2019 by DennisE

[DennisE]

1 hour ago, gamesgplayemail said:

 

who not totally insane would reply to a team of idiots who are not even journalists and know nothing about reporting.

maybe the guy didn't pay you enough to stop reporting this total nonsense ? how much do you need ?

 

 

 

Exactly!! Thank you. I have no idea what he did or didn’t do but if I was him I’d stay quiet and talk to an attorney only. ThaiVisa would be the last thing on my mind if I were him lol. 

[Just Weird]

2 hours ago, DennisE said:

The point is it’s simple to give an injection.

In the context of this thread that is not the point!  The point is that he euthanized 22 dogs, illegally!   

[DennisE]

Well they are apparently taken care of for now but their future is now very uncertain because of all this stuff and I doubt the donations will continue after this. So it’s a shame regardless of what happened. 

[DennisE]

2 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

In the context of this thread that is not the point!  The point is that he euthanized 22 dogs, illegally!   

So you say you saw that happen then? 

Edited December 25, 2019 by DennisE

[Just Weird]

2 minutes ago, DennisE said:

So you say you saw that happen then? 

No, obviously I didn't!  But I did read the OP which stated that he had been charged with that offence, maybe you should have read that also!  Jesus...

Edited December 25, 2019 by Just Weird

[DennisE]

I’m just concerned about the dogs I have no clue what he did or didn’t do. The question is did he cause this mess or was it one of the people working with him I guess. The most important question now is what will happen to these dogs now? 

[DennisE]

2 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

No, obviously I didn't!  But I did read the OP which stated that he had been charged with that offence, maybe you should have read that also!  Jesus...

Right, so because you read it on the internet that automatically makes it true? 

[DennisE]

Don’t believe everything you read. I’m more concerned about the dogs that are still out there alive than whatever may or may not have already happened.

[Just Weird]

Just now, DennisE said:

Right, so because you read it on the internet that automatically makes it true? 

No, everything that is read on the internet is not "automatically true" but there are some reports that carry a certain amount of credibility.

 

What I read on the internet was a report with confirmation from the police that he had been charged with the offences and the case was going to the public prosecutor.    What reason is there to doubt the veracity of that?

[DennisE]

1 minute ago, Just Weird said:

No, everything that is read on the internet is not "automatically true" but there are some reports that carry a certain amount of credibility.

 

What I read on the internet was a report with confirmation from the police that he had been charged with the offences and the case was going to the public prosecutor.    What reason is there to doubt the veracity of that?

Well probably the fact that all we know about it is mostly just Facebook rumors and we have no idea if he did anything wrong. I’m sure something happened obviously people are very angry with him which is really the only thing about the situation that is 100% clear the fact that people are angry with him. 

[Just Weird]

3 minutes ago, DennisE said:

Don’t believe everything you read. I’m more concerned about the dogs that are still out there alive than whatever may or may not have already happened.

Good for you. 

 

While you're showing so much concern for "the dogs that are still out there alive" perhaps you should also bear in mind your own words, "Don’t believe everything you read"!   Are you actually doing something about it or is your concern just token concern to make you feel good?

[DennisE]

All I care about here really is what’s going to happen to the dogs now? People luckily have the ability to speak up for themselves but unfortunately animals do not. 

[Just Weird]

3 minutes ago, DennisE said:

Well probably the fact that all we know about it is mostly just Facebook rumors and we have no idea if he did anything wrong. I’m sure something happened obviously people are very angry with him which is really the only thing about the situation that is 100% clear the fact that people are angry with him. 

The charges already brought against him are not Facebook rumours, try reading the OP properly.  The fact that the case is going to the public prosecutor is evidence that his euthanising offence is not a rumour!

[DennisE]

But according to the people out there they have it covered for now at least I’m more concerned about what will happen to them in the long run. Plus because of this <deleted> I doubt the shelter will be in operation much longer. Very unfortunate for the animals. Now it’s Christmas Day time to get out of the house for a while. 

[DennisE]

2 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

The charges already brought against him are not Facebook rumours, try reading the OP properly.  The fact that the case is going to the public prosecutor is evidence that his euthanising offence is not a rumour!

Right going to the prosecutor for consideration but the investigation is still ongoing. 

[Just Weird]

2 minutes ago, DennisE said:

All I care about here really is what’s going to happen to the dogs now? People luckily have the ability to speak up for themselves but unfortunately animals do not. 

So are you actually doing something about your concern or is it just hot air and a token concern to make you feel good?

[Just Weird]

Just now, DennisE said:

Right going to the prosecutor for consideration but the investigation is still ongoing. 

Right.  So, as I said, not a Facebook rumour!

[DennisE]

2 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

So are you actually doing something about your concern or is it just hot air and a token concern to make you feel good?

Dude there are a lot of dogs out there that are probably pretty much screwed because of this maybe not yet because I spoke to the people who are out there and they are taking care of the dogs for now. But when the money eventually dries up and it will I hope they have a plan for that as well for the long term. Merry Christmas 

[DennisE]

2 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

Right.  So, as I said, not a Facebook rumour!

He’s still living out there man ???? he hasn’t been arrested it is mostly all rumors as of now at least. 

[blackcab]

Defamatory posts and replies to them have been removed.

 

Please do not repeat your previous accusations.

[Just Weird]

1 minute ago, DennisE said:

...I hope they have a plan...

Thought that was all it was!

[DennisE]

In fact most of my conversation with them is on their Facebook page. 

[DennisE]

Don’t be so quick to judgment.