Narrow gap between govt supporters and rivals could trigger conflict: poll

[webfact]

Narrow gap between govt supporters and rivals could trigger conflict: poll

By The Nation

 

Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit (Left), Prayut Chan-o-cha (Right)

 

A new poll points to ominous signs for the government as their supporters are now 34 per cent while their opponents are 36.6 per cent.

 

CEO of Super Poll Noppadon Kannika said that the smaller gap might indicate a coming conflict between them.

 

Super Poll revealed that the number of politically silent supporters has decreased significantly from 56.1 per cent in April during the election period to 55.5 per cent in July, 46.0 per cent in September, 43.7 per cent in October, 49.0 in November and 29.4 percent in January 2020.

 

Most of the government’s supporters are people who disagree with the opposition and get benefits from the new measures of the government while the opponents believe that they are benefiting from nepotism, are corrupt and useless.

 

Noppadon added that according to a Social Media Voice survey via Net Super Poll, 7.27 million Thai people have communicated via social media about the opposition's anti-government Run Against Dictatorship campaign, on former premier Thaksin Shinawatra and Future Forward Party leader Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit.

 

The survey shows the government's failure to rally its supporters as only 589,224 people had communicated on supporting the government's Trail Running campaign.

 

Emotional management is the key to motivate collective behaviour, which is used by the opposition, but the government’s approach is rational focus, Noppadon said.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30380167

 

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[Thaiwrath]

38 minutes ago, webfact said:

while the opponents believe that they are benefiting from nepotism, are corrupt and useless.

Couldn't have summed up the government better myself, if I tried !

Edited January 5, 2020 by Thaiwrath

[RichardColeman]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Narrow gap between govt supporters and rivals could trigger conflict

That the gap between head and tank wheel ? 

[yellowboat]

One only needs to see how the top tier has benefitted from military rule and how the humble Thai must toil with a lackluster economy.  cha cha will cling to power while cowardly avoiding debate.  He will throw tantrums and probably worse as his rule becomes threatened.  What super polls call "conflict" is a natural, healthy occurrence in a free society .  The military however will attempt to vilify it.  The EEC and other such projects seem to be poorly defined seem to have little benefit for the country as a whole.  A questioning populous is sorely needed now if Thailand will ever thrive again.  

[spidermike007]

Very, very difficult for the public to continue supporting a government that is responsible for a significant economic slide, decimating the tourism industry (of which millions of Thais derive their livelihood), and showing a total unwillingness to address vital issues such as air quality, traffic safety, public safety, reform of the horribly incompetent police, reform of the dreadfully racist and xenophobic immigrations services, human slavery, illegal fishing, and countless other areas that affect the average person. The army is beyond useless to the people, and is a do nothing administration. Of course they are unpopular. Generally, they are despised by the people. And for good reason. 

[nobodysfriend]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Emotional management is the key to motivate collective behaviour

and Thanathorn seems to manage this much better than Prajut ... the younger Generation can identify itself with Thanathorn , but with Prajut ...? Prajut symbolizes more suppression than progression , business is not good for many Thais , and that because of his failed policies . And the ridiculous immigration rules ...

Edited January 6, 2020 by nobodysfriend

[30la]

Thailand without a coup cannot exist!

[miamiman123]

It’s the economic reality that increasing cost of living for regular Thais will widen this gap...until a spark sets it off. 

[dinsdale]

The gap probably reflects the actual 'election' result if not more. Not the farcicle result. 

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

CEO of Super Poll Noppadon Kannika said that the smaller gap might indicate a coming conflict between them

Wait for the SME's to start folding this year, taking down the upper middle classes then you will start to see changes made. The poor have never made it into the minds of the elite, but when the middle class starts to lose everything the game changes !

[AhFarangJa]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Very, very difficult for the public to continue supporting a government that is responsible for a significant economic slide, decimating the tourism industry (of which millions of Thais derive their livelihood), and showing a total unwillingness to address vital issues such as air quality, traffic safety, public safety, reform of the horribly incompetent police, reform of the dreadfully racist and xenophobic immigrations services, human slavery, illegal fishing, and countless other areas that affect the average person. The army is beyond useless to the people, and is a do nothing administration. Of course they are unpopular. Generally, they are despised by the people. And for good reason. 

+1 .....Very well put Sir.....

[Mark mark]

"Super Poll revealed that the number of politically silent supporters has decreased significantly from 56.1 per cent in April during the election period to 55.5 per cent in July, 46.0 per cent in September, 43.7 per cent in October, 49.0 in November and 29.4 percent in January 2020."

 

29.4 % in January 2020 !!! Can you believe that ? Did they get the figures wrong ????

 

....  I wonder if the fact that people are starting to loose their jobs now, has any thing to do with it, ... (Well around here in Ayuttahya at least, where I now can see it happening, starting from just before Christmas.) like I suspect YES. .... Like employed people are busy, and have no time or motivation to Protest, .... Unemployed people have a LOT of time to think about it, ...  and then start to get pretty upset I would imagine, .... like "Where IS their daily money going to come from" !!!

 

 

(... And this is also an International problem, in a less obvious sort of way, for most ordinary people, d/t the fact that most peoples wages have been stagnant for at least the last 10 years, ... and prices have been continuing to go up.)

Edited January 6, 2020 by Mark mark
Added Timing

[colinneil]

Well folks, sadly the Thailand we once knew has gone, never to return unless/ until, this crowd of ++++++++ are gone, and the army learn their place is defending the country not messing it up by trying to govern it.

[rtco]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Most of the government’s supporters are people who disagree with the opposition and get benefits from the new measures of the government while the opponents believe that they are benefiting from nepotism, are corrupt and useless.

That's spot on ...

[SupermarineS6B]

Spidermike007's hit it right on the head, unfortunately once the little man put the yellow suit on followed by the pink one we all know his ideas of himself have gone well beyond his station, and this guy will not be removed cleanly. I'm hoping that the "Man" that should be at the helm but isn't due to his long term holiday commitments will remove the little tick and reinstate the popular man from the north, thus enabling the holiday to continue with a decent Cptn at the helm.........It's needed and it would work, sadly though i can see bloodshed on the way, all for the good of the people of course...........     Jesus i'm glad i live in Malaysia now.........

[newatthis]

And one wonders why the government, through its lackeys, are going to close done the FFP.  Sadly, the FFP is learning that the PTP is a "fair weather" friend or just plain cowardly.

[Enoon]

 

Once again "The Nation" airbrushes PTP, the largest opposition to the government, out of the picture.

 

The truth is that the real opposition to the brutal, base, collectivist, political mentality that informs both PTP, playing the role of the "Communists", and the PPP government, playing the "National Socialists"........is the genuinely progressive, modernising, Liberal, Democratic idealism of FFP.

 

PTP and PPP are two "sects" of the same "religion" (both appealing to potential supporters who share a similar mentality) who see each other as "heretics".

 

Both their leaderships hate and detest what the rise of FFP portends.

 

An ocean of difference separates them both from FFP.

 

If PTP were in power, and PPP the majority of the opposition, it would still be FFP who were treated as the real enemy, by the the PTP government.

 

 

 

Edited January 6, 2020 by Enoon

[SupermarineS6B]

2 minutes ago, Baggy said:

And they wonder why Expats/Farangs leave , why the tourist numbers are reducing, why people are afraid to visit.

"Afraid"........dead right....... what a great tourist situation...... Madness..........

[SupermarineS6B]

4 minutes ago, madmitch said:

You do realise that article is over 5 years old don't you? There was a different king then.

Ooops, yeah different King, same Army.......In a bid to get back on Phuket’s beaches after being expelled by the Army-backed beach clean-up, the small operators have banded together in an appeal to HM King Bhumibol.

 

[scorecard]

3 hours ago, yellowboat said:

One only needs to see how the top tier has benefitted from military rule and how the humble Thai must toil with a lackluster economy.  cha cha will cling to power while cowardly avoiding debate.  He will throw tantrums and probably worse as his rule becomes threatened.  What super polls call "conflict" is a natural, healthy occurrence in a free society .  The military however will attempt to vilify it.  The EEC and other such projects seem to be poorly defined seem to have little benefit for the country as a whole.  A questioning populous is sorely needed now if Thailand will ever thrive again.  

Seems to me that when the 'gov't loses a bit more ground and the opposition gains more groundand is scorong higher than the gov't (all comin soon) then Api... will likely find a reason to step in in some form.  What follows is hard to predict but IMHO two (or more) outcomes:

 

- Api... / the army will insist they have no choice but to step in.

- Even harsher / even more immoral activities directed by the gov't / Api... to gain control.

 

Why, because the senior army brotherhood and their families believe it's their right and those at the bottom should be quiet and do as they are told. 

 

 

Edited January 6, 2020 by scorecard

[tifino]

the only narrow gap to worry about

- is the closing one, when the two get too close to each other! 

 

the ruling party will deal with any narrowing-gap-on-paper

Edited January 6, 2020 by tifino

[Burma Bill]

Quote:-

 

"could trigger conflict"

For conflict, read coup!!

[malibukid]

4 hours ago, yellowboat said:

One only needs to see how the top tier has benefitted from military rule and how the humble Thai must toil with a lackluster economy.  cha cha will cling to power while cowardly avoiding debate.  He will throw tantrums and probably worse as his rule becomes threatened.  What super polls call "conflict" is a natural, healthy occurrence in a free society .  The military however will attempt to vilify it.  The EEC and other such projects seem to be poorly defined seem to have little benefit for the country as a whole.  A questioning populous is sorely needed now if Thailand will ever thrive again.  

sounds like a certain president

[NanLaew]

There was going to be an opposition motion to censure the government last month. Nothing of the sort happened.

 

An opposition MP did say that he would be filing individual motions of no-confidence against certain cabinet members. Nothing of the sort happened.

 

Does anyone else see a (never changing) trend here?

[Matzzon]

oppps! The natives are restless.

[Fred white]

Another coup in the near future

[ThomasThBKK]

37 minutes ago, rhyddid said:

We do want another Thaksin, for sure not the majority of Thais.

Let's forget "wining" Falangs, this government did a lot of good things that  seem to be forgotten, Cannabis, Plastic Bag, reduce the gap between the poor and the middle class, we can go on for long, Thailand does not deserve another tycoon CEO good only in marketing and to enrich more his investments.

Spot on to the present government, even if i will not have voted them, we have to admit that is the best Government Thailand ever got.

.

LOL. You must be stoned.

 

https://www.aseantoday.com/2019/01/thailands-wealth-inequality-is-the-highest-in-the-world-what-does-this-mean-for-upcoming-elections/

[Mavideol]

4 hours ago, AhFarangJa said:

+1 .....Very well put Sir.....

and +2, couldn't have find better way to put it

[Mavideol]

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Very, very difficult for the public to continue supporting a government that is responsible for a significant economic slide, decimating the tourism industry (of which millions of Thais derive their livelihood), and showing a total unwillingness to address vital issues such as air quality, traffic safety, public safety, reform of the horribly incompetent police, reform of the dreadfully racist and xenophobic immigrations services, human slavery, illegal fishing, and countless other areas that affect the average person. The army is beyond useless to the people, and is a do nothing administration. Of course they are unpopular. Generally, they are despised by the people. And for good reason. 

and +2, couldn't have find better way to put it

[Scot123]

6 hours ago, Bannoi said:

And thats just the Uk Government question is would it have been any better if Jeremy Corbyn have won?

What rubbish. GB just had a real election and BoJo won hands down with a massive majority. The British Government have the backing of the majority of the country. Marxist Corbyn is over thank God.