snoop1130 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 British woman faces jail for posing as a boy to lure girls into sex Gemma Watts, a British woman who pledged guilty for posing as a teenage boy to sexually groom young girls, is pictured in this handout photo obtained January 9, 2020. Metropolitan Police/Handout via REUTERS WINCHESTER, England (Reuters) - A young British woman who posed as a teenage boy to deceive potentially dozens of young girls into having sexual contact with her will be sentenced on Friday and may face a jail term. Gemma Watts, 21, created an online persona as Jake Waton, a 16-year-old boy, and used social media to strike up relationships with girls as young as 14. Police described her male alter ego as very believable. Watts pleaded guilty in November to seven charges relating to four victims aged 14 and 15, although police believe she was a prolific predator and that there are likely to be many other unidentified victims. The charges included sexual assault and meeting a child following sexual grooming. Watts, who is on bail, is due to be sentenced at Winchester Crown Court in southern England. She would start her grooming by liking girls' profiles on Snapchat or Instagram, then sending them complimentary messages. Soon she would be calling them "Babe" or other pet names. Her own profile as Jake Waton featured posts about skateboarding and photographs of herself, dressed in baggy sportswear, with her long hair tied up in a bun and hidden under a cap or hood. Having persuaded her victims to meet her, Watts travelled by train to their homes in various parts of England. The girls believed they were in genuine relationships with a teenage boy. In several cases, there were multiple encounters over a period of months. She met the parents of some of her victims and had conversations with them. They too were taken in. Phillipa Kenwright, one of the detectives involved in the case, said the victims were unaware they had been deceived until they were contacted by police, and it had been devastating for them to learn the truth. "It's been life-changing for all of the victims involved," Kenwright told reporters in a briefing ahead of sentencing. "For some of these girls it's one of their first relationships." The case has not previously been made public, and Kenwright said she expected that once the details were in the media, more victims would come forward. She said her personal estimate was that there might be between 20 and 50 unidentified victims. Watts, who left school at 16 and lives with her mother in north London, first came to the attention of the police in April 2018. Despite knowing she was under investigation, she continued her activities as Jake for many more months. Kenwright said Watts had expressed no remorse and given no explanation for her actions. -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-01-10 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TopDeadSenter Posted January 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2020 The mind boggles. Did these girls who were having sex with Gemma not realize that Gemma did not possess a penis? How could they not notice? 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post evadgib Posted January 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2020 Lets hope the sentance will be as per a bloke. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChipButty Posted January 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2020 Same as ladyboys luring men into thinking they are having sex with a woman 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bruntoid Posted January 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2020 Life changing ? Really ? Doesn’t say anywhere sex was involved 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techietraveller84 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, ChipButty said: Same as ladyboys luring men into thinking they are having sex with a woman Except that she's an adult, and her targets were children. Even ladyboys have higher standards. Edited January 10, 2020 by techietraveller84 Neglected to quote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted January 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Bruntoid said: Life changing ? Really ? Doesn’t say anywhere sex was involved What exactly do you understand sexual assault to mean? 3 hours ago, snoop1130 said: The charges included sexual assault 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katana Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 There have been a few of these stories in the news in recent years in the UK. The same modus operandi where the perpetrator initially grooms and seduces the girls onlne before meeting them in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shy coconut Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Bluespunk said: What exactly do you understand sexual assault to mean? Sexual assault has many forms, it doesn't have to be physical, it can be verbal for instance. It is certainly not exclusively "going all the way" with someone. Given that none of the victims knew that she was a female suggests that she kept her clothes on. If I befriended someone, male or female and without consent gave their bottom a squeeze, even if we were both fully clothed, that could be construed as sexual assault. Edited January 10, 2020 by shy coconut 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uesnyc Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Verbal assault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyTheMook Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Good Lord! Gives a totally new meaning to 'hide the sausage'.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post silver sea Posted January 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Bruntoid said: Life changing ? Really ? Doesn’t say anywhere sex was involved 10 hours ago, Bluespunk said: What exactly do you understand sexual assault to mean? 4 hours ago, shy coconut said: Sexual assault has many forms, it doesn't have to be physical, it can be verbal for instance. It is certainly not exclusively "going all the way" with someone. Given that none of the victims knew that she was a female suggests that she kept her clothes on. If I befriended someone, male or female and without consent gave their bottom a squeeze, even if we were both fully clothed, that could be construed as sexual assault. There’s a fuller report in the Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jan/10/woman-gemma-watts-posed-boy-sexually-assault-girls-police And here is the report in the Daily Mail: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7872547/Woman-21-posed-16-year-old-boy-sexually-assault-50-girls.html One of the charges admitted was penetration. Maybe that was with a finger or a toy. The victims are children aged 13 and 14 years old. They were also vulnerable; they had already suffered abuse and bullying and had low self esteem. They thought that they were in a relationship with a teenage boy who cared about them. When they discovered it was an adult woman, of course they would feel confused and that it was a “life changing event”. Gemma Watts is 21 years old, and has no previous convictions, and yet she was jailed for 8 years and the judge made her “subject to an indefinite Sexual Harm Prevention Order and told her she would be on the sex offenders' register for life as well as being barred from working from any children or vulnerable people.“ This sentence is a reflection of the seriousness of the offences and the age and vulnerability of the victims. Remember these are 13 and 14 year old children! Edited January 11, 2020 by silver sea 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, shy coconut said: Sexual assault has many forms, it doesn't have to be physical, it can be verbal for instance. It is certainly not exclusively "going all the way" with someone. Given that none of the victims knew that she was a female suggests that she kept her clothes on. If I befriended someone, male or female and without consent gave their bottom a squeeze, even if we were both fully clothed, that could be construed as sexual assault. That would be because it is. No consent equals assault. All sexual assaults should be viewed as serious offences and punished for the affect on those assaulted. Edited January 11, 2020 by Bluespunk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Has anyone actually seen this person with their pants down? Wouldn't it be a hoot if it really is a boy! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted January 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, bendejo said: Has anyone actually seen this person with their pants down? Wouldn't it be a hoot if it really is a boy! Not really, no. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 14 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said: The mind boggles. Did these girls who were having sex with Gemma not realize that Gemma did not possess a penis? How could they not notice? I must have missed it. But I read carefully. Where does it say they were "having sex with Gemma"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I do not want her in prison telling other dykes how to do online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermik Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 22 hours ago, techietraveller84 said: Except that she's an adult, and her targets were children. Even ladyboys have higher standards. Yeah right 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 13 hours ago, Bluespunk said: What exactly do you understand sexual assault to mean? I would have agreed with you a few years ago but these days sexual assault can mean picking your girlfriends nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 She would be right at home here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, car720 said: I would have agreed with you a few years ago but these days sexual assault can mean picking your girlfriends nose. No it doesn’t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 16 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said: Did these girls who were having sex with Gemma not realize that Gemma did not possess a penis? How could they not notice? Been in any Pattaya/Nana plaza bars lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jak2002003 Posted January 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2020 17 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said: The mind boggles. Did these girls who were having sex with Gemma not realize that Gemma did not possess a penis? How could they not notice? They did not have sex with her. They engaged in sexual experimental things like most young people do, and, which most of the parents must have thought were going on, and apparently were happy about if she had been a him. Seems kind of anti lesbian? The problem was the deception and lies and her being an adult (although not many years older then her victims). 16 hours ago, ChipButty said: Same as ladyboys luring men into thinking they are having sex with a woman Not really. Men are adults not underage boys! But, if a man is truly deceived then, yes, it is obviously wrong and not funny and basically sexual assault. 20 minutes ago, car720 said: I would have agreed with you a few years ago but these days sexual assault can mean picking your girlfriends nose. Or wink at someone you like it seems... If they fancy you they will be very happy about it, if not your are sexually assaulting them? If you want to let someone you like know you like them I think its better to write them a formal letter explaining your feelings and a legally draw up summary of sexual things they will allow you to do, requiring both signatures, and a witness. Remember, all those bar girls shouting out to you 'handsome man' are sexually assaulting you! Hope you can get them all arrested and locked up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catoholic Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 18 hours ago, ChipButty said: Same as ladyboys luring men into thinking they are having sex with a woman What planet are you from? Luring men into have sex is much different than a predator deceiving children into performing sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 19 hours ago, snoop1130 said: She met the parents of some of her victims and had conversations with them. They too were taken in. As disturbing as the story itself !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 3 hours ago, jak2002003 said: They did not have sex with her. They engaged in sexual experimental things like most young people do, and, which most of the parents must have thought were going on, and apparently were happy about if she had been a him. Seems kind of anti lesbian? The problem was the deception and lies and her being an adult (although not many years older then her victims). Not really. Men are adults not underage boys! But, if a man is truly deceived then, yes, it is obviously wrong and not funny and basically sexual assault. Or wink at someone you like it seems... If they fancy you they will be very happy about it, if not your are sexually assaulting them? If you want to let someone you like know you like them I think its better to write them a formal letter explaining your feelings and a legally draw up summary of sexual things they will allow you to do, requiring both signatures, and a witness. Remember, all those bar girls shouting out to you 'handsome man' are sexually assaulting you! Hope you can get them all arrested and locked up. Thank God that I am too old to even be able to spell the word sex anymore. I think I would be flattered if some bird said that I was sexually assaulting her right now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak2002003 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, car720 said: Thank God that I am too old to even be able to spell the word sex anymore. I think I would be flattered if some bird said that I was sexually assaulting her right now. Just image approaching a lady in a bar or café and starting up a polite conversation, complementing her and asking if she would like to go out on a date with you….. the next thing the police are around arresting you for sexual assault LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack7106 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 7:08 PM, evadgib said: Lets hope the sentance will be as per a bloke. Unfortunately this did not happen, about as much transparency as the family law court in Australia/NZ/England . Severely weighted towards women – what the <deleted>. Paedophilia is paedophilia????????♂️???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDark Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 6:59 PM, TopDeadSenter said: The mind boggles. Did these girls who were having sex with Gemma not realize that Gemma did not possess a penis? How could they not notice? They probably noticed the lack of dick at some point. Quite like people notice that you have been the first poster to most of the 'news' on this site. Go figure! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 17 hours ago, jak2002003 said: Just image approaching a lady in a bar or café and starting up a polite conversation, complementing her and asking if she would like to go out on a date with you….. the next thing the police are around arresting you for sexual assault LOL. No, that's not how it works. She goes out on the date with you, then has sex with you (her idea), then steals your wallet and 25 years later when you have made some money she sues you for sexual assault and has proof because she has your wallet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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