cleopatra2 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, izod10 said: This tells me they cannot be made Benefits that cannot be reduced or stopped The following benefits cannot be reduced or stopped if you commit benefit fraud: Attendance Allowance Bereavement Support Payment Child Benefit Child Tax Credit Christmas Bonus Disability Living Allowance Graduated Retirement Benefit Guardian’s Allowance Industrial Injuries Constant Attendance Allowance (where a Disablement Pension is payable) Industrial Injuries Exceptionally Severe Disablement Allowance (where a Disablement Pension is payable) Personal Independence Payment State Pension Social Fund Payments War Pension Constant Attendance Allowance War Pension Exceptionally Severe Disablement Allowance War Pension Mobility www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1988/664 This proves such deductions are lawfull 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pumpuynarak Posted March 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2021 9 hours ago, izod10 said: For someone who spent 250 quid on a hoax letter from the DWP,and hoisted it on here,and came on bragging that the state pension was only 20% of his total pension pot,only to be told it was other state benefits he was babbling on about,yes you are the expert Wrong AGAIN, my state pension is 15% of my total income, can you get anything right before you post ? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izod10 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 44 minutes ago, Pumpuynarak said: Wrong AGAIN, my state pension is 15% of my total income, can you get anything right before you post ? It was you years ago stated 1/5 of total pension,stopped posting for a bit,...and then the fake DWP letter costing 250 quid Ill see if I can find it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izod10 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 51 minutes ago, cleopatra2 said: My only response is the label on the tin you are reading is fake. I am neither a frozen pensioner or a pensioner good for you,however,not reading the can,but disqualifying pensions sums it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cleopatra2 Posted March 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, izod10 said: good for you,however,not reading the can,but disqualifying pensions sums it up I have been courteous to provide the actual legislation stating such deductions are lawfull. Thus I request you to provide such legislation that states deductions are not available. Simply referring to guidance issued is only that , guidance and not a statement of law. Edited March 29, 2021 by cleopatra2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izod10 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, cleopatra2 said: I have been courteous to provide the actual legislation stating such deductions are lawfull. Thus I request you to provide such legislation that states deductions are not available. Simply referring to guidance issued is only that , guidance and not a statement of law. Look sunshine here Benefits that cannot be reduced or stopped The following benefits cannot be reduced or stopped if you commit benefit fraud: Attendance Allowance Bereavement Support Payment Child Benefit Child Tax Credit Christmas Bonus Disability Living Allowance Graduated Retirement Benefit Guardian’s Allowance Industrial Injuries Constant Attendance Allowance (where a Disablement Pension is payable) Industrial Injuries Exceptionally Severe Disablement Allowance (where a Disablement Pension is payable) Personal Independence Payment State Pension Social Fund Payments War Pension Constant Attendance Allowance War Pension Exceptionally Severe Disablement Allowance War Pension Mobility It states cannot be reduced or stopped" straight from DWP webite,not guidence There good enough or not? if not tough Statement of law however you want ..this is Legislation DWP style lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, izod10 said: Look sunshine here Benefits that cannot be reduced or stopped The following benefits cannot be reduced or stopped if you commit benefit fraud: Attendance Allowance Bereavement Support Payment Child Benefit Child Tax Credit Christmas Bonus Disability Living Allowance Graduated Retirement Benefit Guardian’s Allowance Industrial Injuries Constant Attendance Allowance (where a Disablement Pension is payable) Industrial Injuries Exceptionally Severe Disablement Allowance (where a Disablement Pension is payable) Personal Independence Payment State Pension Social Fund Payments War Pension Constant Attendance Allowance War Pension Exceptionally Severe Disablement Allowance War Pension Mobility It states cannot be reduced or stopped" straight from DWP webite,not guidence There good enough or not? if not tough Statement of law however you want ..this is Legislation DWP style lol You originally asked where in law was the basis for deductions from the state pension. This information has been provided. You have continually asserted this is incorrect but have not provided anything in law to contradict that such deductions can be made. I can only assume you are being vexatious. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, izod10 said: Look sunshine here Benefits that cannot be reduced or stopped The following benefits cannot be reduced or stopped if you commit benefit fraud: Attendance Allowance Bereavement Support Payment Child Benefit Child Tax Credit Christmas Bonus Disability Living Allowance Graduated Retirement Benefit Guardian’s Allowance Industrial Injuries Constant Attendance Allowance (where a Disablement Pension is payable) Industrial Injuries Exceptionally Severe Disablement Allowance (where a Disablement Pension is payable) Personal Independence Payment State Pension Social Fund Payments War Pension Constant Attendance Allowance War Pension Exceptionally Severe Disablement Allowance War Pension Mobility It states cannot be reduced or stopped" straight from DWP webite,not guidence There good enough or not? if not tough Statement of law however you want ..this is Legislation DWP style lol This is technically incorrect. A person can be imprisoned for benefit fraud. Any state pension entitlement is revoked during the period of imprisonment. Yet this guidance states that the entitlement cannot be stopped. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izod10 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, cleopatra2 said: This is technically incorrect. A person can be imprisoned for benefit fraud. Any state pension entitlement is revoked during the period of imprisonment. Yet this guidance states that the entitlement cannot be stopped. LOL well I encourage you to inform the DWP author as to his mistake LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, izod10 said: LOL well I encourage you to inform the DWP author as to his mistake LOL The author has not made an error. The mistake is your intepretation. The loss of entitlement would follow from the penalty of a custodial sentence. No benefit sanction penalty would apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izod10 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 minute ago, cleopatra2 said: The author has not made an error. The mistake is your intepretation. The loss of entitlement would follow from the penalty of a custodial sentence. No benefit sanction penalty would apply. Missing one thing sunshine,perhaps there is no jail time for the undermentioned Benefits that cannot be reduced or stopped The following benefits cannot be reduced or stopped if you commit benefit fraud: Attendance Allowance Bereavement Support Payment Child Benefit Child Tax Credit Christmas Bonus Disability Living Allowance Graduated Retirement Benefit Guardian’s Allowance Industrial Injuries Constant Attendance Allowance (where a Disablement Pension is payable) Industrial Injuries Exceptionally Severe Disablement Allowance (where a Disablement Pension is payable) Personal Independence Payment State Pension Social Fund Payments War Pension Constant Attendance Allowance War Pension Exceptionally Severe Disablement Allowance War Pension Mobility It states cannot be reduced or stopped" straight from DWP webite,not guidence There good enough or not? if not tough Statement of law however you want ..this is Legislation DWP style lol Ever thought that as a possibility? lol but still proceed to DWP HQ give the author a bo.llocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, izod10 said: Missing one thing sunshine,perhaps there is no jail time for the undermentioned Benefits that cannot be reduced or stopped The following benefits cannot be reduced or stopped if you commit benefit fraud: Attendance Allowance Bereavement Support Payment Child Benefit Child Tax Credit Christmas Bonus Disability Living Allowance Graduated Retirement Benefit Guardian’s Allowance Industrial Injuries Constant Attendance Allowance (where a Disablement Pension is payable) Industrial Injuries Exceptionally Severe Disablement Allowance (where a Disablement Pension is payable) Personal Independence Payment State Pension Social Fund Payments War Pension Constant Attendance Allowance War Pension Exceptionally Severe Disablement Allowance War Pension Mobility It states cannot be reduced or stopped" straight from DWP webite,not guidence There good enough or not? if not tough Statement of law however you want ..this is Legislation DWP style lol Ever thought that as a possibility? lol but still proceed to DWP HQ give the author a bo.llocking A quick look at the sentencing guidelines show that prison is a possibility for benefit fraud. Even the DWP website states such is a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izod10 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 minute ago, cleopatra2 said: A quick look at the sentencing guidelines show that prison is a possibility for benefit fraud. Even the DWP website states such is a possibility. Not on about website in general lol about this... Benefits that cannot be reduced or stopped The following benefits cannot be reduced or stopped if you commit benefit fraud: Attendance Allowance Bereavement Support Payment Child Benefit Child Tax Credit Christmas Bonus Disability Living Allowance Graduated Retirement Benefit Guardian’s Allowance Industrial Injuries Constant Attendance Allowance (where a Disablement Pension is payable) Industrial Injuries Exceptionally Severe Disablement Allowance (where a Disablement Pension is payable) Personal Independence Payment State Pension Social Fund Payments War Pension Constant Attendance Allowance War Pension Exceptionally Severe Disablement Allowance War Pension Mobility LOL now if you can possibly equate the above to jail time be my guest,if the punishment does not fit the crime,so be it,no crime there Im done with your ridiculous assumptions bottom line I'm not frozen and never will be....there Ive left you a potential flurry of actively,,go for it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoshi Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 hours ago, izod10 said: The following benefits cannot be reduced or stopped if you commit benefit fraud: I think your missing the point. In my friends case, his pension entitlement was not reduced, nor stopped, but deductions were taken from his pension entitlement. He was convicted of benefit fraud by a UK Court and ordered to repay several thousand pounds. As by this time he was only receiving his state pension entitlement, then deductions could only be taken from that source. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izod10 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 5 hours ago, Tanoshi said: I think your missing the point. In my friends case, his pension entitlement was not reduced, nor stopped, but deductions were taken from his pension entitlement. He was convicted of benefit fraud by a UK Court and ordered to repay several thousand pounds. As by this time he was only receiving his state pension entitlement, then deductions could only be taken from that source. So you say,I have been through endless quotations from DWP site,and the dominate theme in penalties is disqualifying penalty. Now this friend of yours must have been in housing benefit fraud or something like. It would not be deducted from that OAP as it leaves hardship to a degree that would not be allowed, its stated he is still receiving other benefits as you state earlier and the increase in state pension for him allowed his other attached benefits to be adjusted. Was it 50 quid a month deductions he complained about,creating hardship ? lol he must be on the bones of his proverbial. Would not be taken fromOAP source,but attached source 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGSan Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 22 hours ago, izod10 said: The following benefits cannot be reduced or stopped if you commit benefit fraud: This probably means only that the amount you get cannot fall below what you are entitled to. But it does allow claw-back of overpayments by reducing future payments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGSan Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 21 hours ago, izod10 said: if the punishment does not fit the crime,so be it,no crime there Not at all! It just means that there is maybe a lesser crime, rather than no crime at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGSan Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 On 3/29/2021 at 3:17 AM, izod10 said: 2.9% increase last few years to pension, about 1.9% after it enters the wallet Why the different percentages? What happens at the wallet entrance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izod10 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, PGSan said: Why the different percentages? What happens at the wallet entrance? tax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangless Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 On 3/30/2021 at 6:11 PM, izod10 said: tax What tax? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izod10 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, fangless said: What tax? Yes I know what you are on about, increase OAP puts my total tax bill up,no matter where the money comes from 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabhand Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 2/14/2021 at 3:40 AM, nong38 said: It seems like there has been in the last week some movement from Canada about the frozen pension issue and that a meeting might take place shortly between the UK government and the Canadian government with the possibility of looking at a reciprocal agreement. That if it came to pass would only be between the two but it might then provoke others to also seek the same, with individual countries making it not all inclusive but another step down the road. It also occurs to me that since this virus appeared there must have been a fair number of UK pensioners who got caught in Thailand and could return and if they were unlucky got their pensions frozen until they can return to the UK and that might not be until next year as far as I know vaccination has not started here yet and you can bet ex-pats will be behind the locals which I understand but you wont get back in the UK until at least you can prove you have the jabs and any other restrictions that appear in the meantime like sitting in a hotel room waiting to see if you test positive. Looks like the Canada initiative over uprating the frozen pensions of UK pensioners in Canada has been nixxed. What a bunch of 'bankers'...... https://international-adviser.com/uk-refuses-to-uprate-expat-pensions-in-canada/#:~:text=As a result%2C expats will,can impact on their finances. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Is it easy to claim and get it paid into a Thailand bank? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canopus1969 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 6 hours ago, BobBKK said: Is it easy to claim and get it paid into a Thailand bank? Yes - go to the gov.uk site and claim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izod10 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 On 4/13/2021 at 9:17 AM, BobBKK said: Is it easy to claim and get it paid into a Thailand bank? As stated yes....but there are certain days not to do a transfer Friday and Monday generally, money traders square away their accounts, Wednesday and Thursday generally are better days,exchange rates higher,quicker too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tanoshi Posted April 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2021 22 minutes ago, izod10 said: As stated yes....but there are certain days not to do a transfer Friday and Monday generally, money traders square away their accounts, Wednesday and Thursday generally are better days,exchange rates higher,quicker too Your talking through your hat! If you elect to have your UK state pension paid directly into a Thai bank account, you cannot choose the day of transfer. The day of 4 weekly transactions is determined by your NI number. The payments are made automatically through the Bank of Thailand to your Thai bank account using the BAHTNET system. Coding of these types of transfers will be displayed as 'BNT' in a Passbook. The exchange rates are as good or even better than other methods of transfers. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 On 4/13/2021 at 3:37 PM, canopus1969 said: Yes - go to the gov.uk site and claim But... I used to have a verified UK.Gov account but they changed everything and now I cannot get any of their 'partners' to verify me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 On 4/17/2021 at 10:08 AM, izod10 said: As stated yes....but there are certain days not to do a transfer Friday and Monday generally, money traders square away their accounts, Wednesday and Thursday generally are better days,exchange rates higher,quicker too Only if you can get UK.Gov to verify - why they had to change something that worked perfectly I don't know. All of their partners turn me down for verification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangless Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) I get my pension on a Friday into a UK bank account between 1-2AM UK time. Setup transfer to BKK Bank at 8AM Thai time via Wise. Money in BKK bank just after 2pm Thai time same Friday. Only problem is Bank holyday weekends. Edited April 22, 2021 by fangless Wise added! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jonzboy Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 On 4/21/2021 at 8:40 AM, BobBKK said: But... I used to have a verified UK.Gov account but they changed everything and now I cannot get any of their 'partners' to verify me. I believe you can only claim online if you are resident in UK. Otherwise you need to complete the paper form and submit with supporting documents. I second you comments about the "verified identity" as I got locked out and had to re-register (I used the post office one) and judging from the questions they ask it seems they do a cross check with your UK credit history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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